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Potential for a rather potent severe weather event


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That's such a tough situation to wish for. That's like being asked if you would rather see Miley Cyrus or Taylor Swift naked

 

I have my vote, and it wasn't that hard.

 

Oh wait, about storms? I can be happy with a long-tracked significant severe supercell, but I think we're due for a good EF-2 in our CWA.

 

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I have my vote, and it wasn't that hard.

Oh wait, about storms? I can be happy with a long-tracked significant severe supercell, but I think we're due for a good EF-2 in our CWA.

If we can get steep lapse rates and the instability advertised with 50+ knots of effective bulk shear I would really be shocked if we didn't see an EF-2 or higher somewhere tomorrow

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If we can get steep lapse rates and the instability advertised with 50+ knots of effective bulk shear I would really be shocked if we didn't see an EF-2 or higher somewhere tomorrow

 

I'd probably like to see winds stay backed longer to keep helicity high for EF3 stuff, but with so much shear in the lowest 1 km, an EF2 shouldn't be too hard to pull off even off the brief ones.

 

I'm looking for the first TDS on GYX. I want to see what it will look like in our area. Though it probably won't be much different than BOX's or ALY's from the last couple of years.

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DAY 2 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK  
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK  
1230 PM CDT MON JUN 22 2015  
 
VALID 231200Z - 241200Z  

   
..THERE IS AN ENH RISK OF SVR TSTMS
 
 
...THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS FROM THE NERN U.S. THROUGH THE  
MID ATLANTIC AND SRN OH VALLEY...  
 
...THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS OVER A PORTION OF THE CNTRL  
THROUGH NRN PLAINS...  
 
...THERE IS A MRGL RISK OF SVR TSTMS FROM THE NERN AND MID ATLANTIC  
STATES...OH VALLEY THROUGH THE CNTRL AND NRN PLAINS...  
   
..SUMMARY
 
 
SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS WITH LARGE HAIL AND DAMAGING WIND GUSTS ARE  
EXPECTED FROM PORTIONS OF NEW ENGLAND INTO THE CENTRAL APPALACHIANS  
AND OHIO VALLEY. FARTHER WEST...OTHER SEVERE STORMS WITH LARGE HAIL  
AND ISOLATED WIND DAMAGE WILL ALSO BE POSSIBLE IN THE CENTRAL AND  
NORTHERN HIGH PLAINS FROM LATE TUESDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH THE  
EVENING.  
   
..NORTHEAST STATES
 
 
MCS WILL BE ONGOING EARLY TUESDAY MOST LIKELY OVER PORTIONS OF NEW  
ENGLAND GENERALLY ALONG AND NORTH OF A WARM FRONT THAT IS EXPECTED  
TO EXTEND FROM SRN NH AND VT NWWD INTO SRN QUEBEC. THE ATMOSPHERE IS  
EXPECTED TO DESTABILIZE IN WAKE OF AND UPSTREAM OF THE MCS AS RICHER  
LOW-LEVEL MOISTURE IS ADVECTED NEWD THROUGH WARM SECTOR IN ADVANCE  
OF A SEWD ADVANCING COLD FRONT. SOME BREAKS IN RESIDUAL LOW CLOUDS  
ARE EXPECTED WITH MLCAPE UP TO 1500 J/KG POSSIBLE IN THIS REGION.  
STORMS ARE EXPECTED TO REDEVELOP ALONG AND JUST AHEAD OF THE COLD  
FRONT FROM NEWD ENGLAND SWWD INTO THE NERN U.S. AND MID ATLANTIC.  
IMPRESSIVE DEEP LAYER WINDS ASSOCIATED WITH A PROGRESSIVE SHORTWAVE  
TROUGH WILL SPREAD ACROSS THE NRN PORTIONS OF THE WARM SECTOR WITH  
40-50 KT 0-6 KM SHEAR SUPPORTIVE OF ORGANIZED STORMS INCLUDING  
SUPERCELLS AND BOWING SEGMENTS. WIND PROFILES WILL BECOME WLY  
UNIDIRECTIONAL SOUTH OF WARM FRONT SUGGESTING PRIMARY THREAT WILL BE  
LARGE HAIL AND DAMAGING WIND. HOWEVER...AN EXCEPTION WILL BE OVER  
NEW ENGLAND WHERE A THREAT FOR A FEW TORNADOES WILL BE CONDITIONAL  
UPON SUFFICIENT DESTABILIZATION IN VICINITY OF THE CONVECTIVELY  
ENHANCED WARM FRONT.  

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DAY 2 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK  

NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK  

1230 PM CDT MON JUN 22 2015  

 

VALID 231200Z - 241200Z  

   

..THERE IS AN ENH RISK OF SVR TSTMS  

 

...THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS FROM THE NERN U.S. THROUGH THE  

MID ATLANTIC AND SRN OH VALLEY...  

 

...THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS OVER A PORTION OF THE CNTRL  

THROUGH NRN PLAINS...  

 

...THERE IS A MRGL RISK OF SVR TSTMS FROM THE NERN AND MID ATLANTIC  

STATES...OH VALLEY THROUGH THE CNTRL AND NRN PLAINS...  

   

..SUMMARY  

 

SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS WITH LARGE HAIL AND DAMAGING WIND GUSTS ARE  

EXPECTED FROM PORTIONS OF NEW ENGLAND INTO THE CENTRAL APPALACHIANS  

AND OHIO VALLEY. FARTHER WEST...OTHER SEVERE STORMS WITH LARGE HAIL  

AND ISOLATED WIND DAMAGE WILL ALSO BE POSSIBLE IN THE CENTRAL AND  

NORTHERN HIGH PLAINS FROM LATE TUESDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH THE  

EVENING.  

   

..NORTHEAST STATES  

 

MCS WILL BE ONGOING EARLY TUESDAY MOST LIKELY OVER PORTIONS OF NEW  

ENGLAND GENERALLY ALONG AND NORTH OF A WARM FRONT THAT IS EXPECTED  

TO EXTEND FROM SRN NH AND VT NWWD INTO SRN QUEBEC. THE ATMOSPHERE IS  

EXPECTED TO DESTABILIZE IN WAKE OF AND UPSTREAM OF THE MCS AS RICHER  

LOW-LEVEL MOISTURE IS ADVECTED NEWD THROUGH WARM SECTOR IN ADVANCE  

OF A SEWD ADVANCING COLD FRONT. SOME BREAKS IN RESIDUAL LOW CLOUDS  

ARE EXPECTED WITH MLCAPE UP TO 1500 J/KG POSSIBLE IN THIS REGION.  

STORMS ARE EXPECTED TO REDEVELOP ALONG AND JUST AHEAD OF THE COLD  

FRONT FROM NEWD ENGLAND SWWD INTO THE NERN U.S. AND MID ATLANTIC.  

IMPRESSIVE DEEP LAYER WINDS ASSOCIATED WITH A PROGRESSIVE SHORTWAVE  

TROUGH WILL SPREAD ACROSS THE NRN PORTIONS OF THE WARM SECTOR WITH  

40-50 KT 0-6 KM SHEAR SUPPORTIVE OF ORGANIZED STORMS INCLUDING  

SUPERCELLS AND BOWING SEGMENTS. WIND PROFILES WILL BECOME WLY  

UNIDIRECTIONAL SOUTH OF WARM FRONT SUGGESTING PRIMARY THREAT WILL BE  

LARGE HAIL AND DAMAGING WIND. HOWEVER...AN EXCEPTION WILL BE OVER  

NEW ENGLAND WHERE A THREAT FOR A FEW TORNADOES WILL BE CONDITIONAL  

UPON SUFFICIENT DESTABILIZATION IN VICINITY OF THE CONVECTIVELY  

ENHANCED WARM FRONT.  

 

That's a pretty great discussion, matches my thoughts exactly. A little conditional, but yet significant severe possible. Just feels like an enhanced kind of day.

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My true meaning being......it's about time. 

 

Obviously a cautious approach is warrented, but I just went from 5% to 30% lol.

 

Also as a side:  I love the different number of emojis that we have.  We have Microsoft Lync at work and the emojis are so disappointing.

 

Yeah I wasn't comfortable with the prior risk outlook, neither was BOX, so collaboration was great today. We all talked it out and agreed this was best.

 

Just feels like an enhanced kind of day, not a run of the mill slight.

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I'm really really amped up for this . Could be a day that goes down in infamy if things break right. It somewhat reminds me July 89 event

My earliest weather memory. Had a buddy in Hamden that instinctively ran to the basement every time he heard thunder for years after that outbreak. Don't know how comparable tomorrow will be. Didn't '89 have a pretty classic EML?

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Yeah I wasn't comfortable with the prior risk outlook, neither was BOX, so collaboration was great today. We all talked it out and agreed this was best.

 

Just feels like an enhanced kind of day, not a run of the mill slight.

 

Right.  Agreed.  I was looking through the SPC probabalistic to categories tables......it seems like it is nearly impossible to get a High Risk anymore.  Which is probably a good thing as with time when a High Risk day occurs, then the public will take it more seriously.

 

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/misc/SPC_probotlk_info.html

 

But for us in New England, the new categories eliminates any chances we had of ever seeing a High Risk Day.

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Right.  Agreed.  I was looking through the SPC probabalistic to categories tables......it seems like it is nearly impossible to get a High Risk anymore.  Which is probably a good thing as with time when a High Risk day occurs, then the public will take it more seriously.

 

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/misc/SPC_probotlk_info.html

 

But for us in New England, the new categories eliminates any chances we had of ever seeing a High Risk Day.

 

Meh, there haven't been any threats thus far this year that have warranted one, IMO.

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The Euro has very meager instability into New England. 1000-1500 J/KG at most. Leftover MCS really screws things up.

 

I would take 1500 J/kg and run with it. Given the shear, that combo would be fine for storms.

 

Obviously more CAPE would help ensure storms aren't torn apart by the shear, but I think we would get plenty of severe with 1500.

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Wasn't really my point.  Was just saying that to qualify as a High Risk we either need a major tornado outbreak or a 60% chance of sig severe wind. 

 

Hail is an after thought.....can't ever qualify as a High Risk.

 

I don't really see how the new categories eliminate any chance SNE had at a high risk though in the future, as unlikely as it is.

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That's further north than seemed to be talked about lately? No way with the MCS in the morning that it extends that far north in the early afternoon storms. I was thinking they'd keep it more in the SNE/ENY and maybe SNH/SVT....not as far up as MPV-BML.

 

Yeah, tad farther north than I was thinking for the enhanced. I had it about LEB to IZG in NH, so it's close.

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