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I'm more concerned about the boob lows and convection to the east mucking this up once again like the last coastal.

Icons about 300 miles n/w from 18z

I understand that, but all I meant was that it doesn't seem to be as "LBSW" like.....still not there yet, but I think we have seen some improvememnt with that.

There is a little more separation on the northern stream compared to 18z. Not what we want to see

That's a hell of a lot tighter than Euro. Seeing that and trends last few hours makes me lend more credence to GFS. This whole storm is hilarious Sent from my SM-S731U using Tapatalk

I’ll never give the icon credit for a single blind run and then wavering. If the gfs scores a coup, it was at least invested.

2/19 00z ICoN

Closer in it’s better but hour 84…

I want to see continued improvement from the varsity models because if they come in still looking like the NAM, we may be arriving at a suboptimal consensus.

Just looking at the data here those are scientifically significant differences most likely. I’d have to run stats but eyeballing it looks like they are not significantly different among the big models.

Last 4 runs is a clear and impactful shift though. Kinda looking at that and not the end result.

I think rate matters because as lows rapidly deepen they tend to get pulled to the H5 low. And in this case because it can’t move much in latitude it gets pulled west before the whole thing unravels and it gets booted ENE.

NAM skill in this range is vaguely dependable at best.

Nice 18z GEFS uptick in the snow map to correspond with the low clusters.

Lousy wave spacing there.

Icon going to be closer at 0z but was pretty crappy at 18z

No defense mechanism here. I literally agreed with him that we need another bump NW, Euro is more east than the NAM. I would be saying the same shit if the NAM showed a monster 2 foot blizzard. We are on the same page about the Euro, I know some people here don’t like it but this close in it’s quite good.

Remember the ICON led the way a few days ago with showing a blizzard?

I forgot that existed

Can't gauge the rest of the 0z suite off the Nam anyways as its in la la land.

Well, that was a much better run than 18z.....just not there yet.

Is a lottle more than a little? Like a 'lot' better?

Which is why I'd like to keep the NAM around for a long time