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88-89 was the strong la nina. 89-90 was a dissipating weaker la nina/cold neutral, and was firmly ENSO neutral by the time the winter was over. The IOD was still at -1.4 on November 24, pretty much comparable to 2016 and 2022, both of which were low snow winters at PHL, and torched in January and February. The mid-March snowstorm in 2017 kept that year from being another below 10 inch snowfall season at PHL, and we all know the disaster that 2022-23 was. Cold and low snow Decembers are the worst combination. They almost always produce torch Januarys and Februarys. Come to think of it, I can't remember a time when a cold and low snow December produced a great rest of the winter.

Not necessarily

Quiet possible it misses but not sure AI models still show a nice hit

Yep every model. These models ar horrendous. Cant look at them past 5 days.

I like the last part that says warming trend. Just wish there weren't question marks after it.

A dusting here.

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE National Weather Service Greenville-Spartanburg SC 227 AM EST Wed Dec 10 2025 NCZ048>050-102000- /O.NEW.KGSP.WW.Y.0014.251210T1800Z-251211T1500Z/ Madison-Yancey-Mitchell- Including the cities of Faust 227 AM EST Wed Dec 10 2025 ...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 1 PM THIS AFTERNOON TO 10 AM EST THURSDAY ABOVE 3500 FEET... * WHAT...Snow expected above 3500 feet. Total snow accumulations up to 4 inches. Winds gusting as high as 55 mph. * WHERE...Madison, Mitchell, and Yancey Counties. * WHEN...From 1 PM this afternoon to 10 AM EST Thursday. * IMPACTS...The heavy snow will create snow covered roads and produce scattered power outages. The hazardous conditions could impact the Wednesday evening and Thursday morning commutes. Strong winds will likely cause damage to trees and power lines. Sent from my SM-S908U using Tapatalk

Good if it isn’t going to snow bring on the warmth, we take

Columbia: Temps on the rise. Down to 27 at 5am, but 28 at 6am.

The yards being muddy is a good sign. That usually means the drought is coming to an end soon.

Close the shades.

Weeeeeee.

And the torch won’t make the snow go poof, bc there won’t be any on the ground.

Sunday is quickly trending to a disjointed, sheared mess on the operationals and the ensembles. Raging fast flow, the +PNA is very progressive (as usual) and there is no traffic/blocking in the Atlantic to slow the flow down, it just races right off the coast as FROPA

27F Dp22 with cloudy skies, few scattered flakes here and there.

Starting to get that bad vibe that we’re going snowless for December. What a waste of cold.

Definitely much less stressful being on the Torch Tiger side of things. Maybe I should think about that.

Hard to ignore possibility that the large majority of LOT CWA gets relatively gapped by the series ending early next week. I guess all that I will ask for is that this now cover slop be given a new topper. Otherwise, let the winners win.

Heavy frost with a low I believe of 30 degrees here in North Charleston. Not something you see often down in the low country.

At least we know this won’t go poof

Definite step back for the weekend. H5 looking more like a sheared mess.

Melt was p aggressive and Xmas thaw looks locked and loaded. January will be rocking

35F this am, off a low of 4F yesterday, nice rebound.

Mondays winter weather system only dropped 0.09” of QPF here, of which roughly half fell as snow. Given snowfall totals were in the 0.3-0.4” and some was wasted on initial melting, snowfall ratios were right about in the 10-1” range here.