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I think that is extended a bit too far to the north...MHT has like 14", which is at least normal for them....but I am not far se of them and only have 8".

I'm not getting the blizz but was wide-eyed once I checked on my local, an inch of rain for just today then 8" of snow right on Monday! Enormous precip amounts! The roads are already icy from the freezing rain on Boxing Day - this is going to exacerbate the mess.

I don't give a rat's greasy taint about pond hockey...give me one huge storm surrounded by 50's, over cold and dry. It's easy to mock the IMBYism when you aren't in someone's shoes...it's been nearly a decade since I have sniffed a normal snowfall season. That is extraordinarily unusual and did NOT happen in the 80s.

Yea, another sucky month in terms of snow AFAIC......only reason it isn't abysmal is the 3" right before XMAS. But I'm not sure how you consider it a good winter month when your largest storm is 3". I'd take January 2024 over December 2025 100/100 times.

Brutal stuff..not even our borderline feral cat wants to go out in this nut shrinking airmass. Great day and night to embrace the spirit of the season, hibernation!

Another December in the books without a legit snowfall around these parts. Zzzzz decembers becoming the norm.

I’m currently in Newport for the weekend lol I’m seeing 22F as the current temp. Regardless legit dont think I’ve ever been here with snow on the ground. Shows how cold the last storm was for all of SNE.

Thanks for mentioning....I noticed that that actually made my map look worse if extrapolating it out haha.

JFC that 0z GFS had lots of chances but nothing worked out. The end of the GFS looked good as well. Nice pattern we're starting to enter

Rather excited about 60’s and shot at thunder tomorrow. Love winter weather, but I’m not a purist with the season by any means.

Let it go.

Surprised we didn't set more between x-mas and now. RECORD EVENT REPORT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PEACHTREE CITY GA 0437 PM EST SAT DEC 27 2025 ...RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE SET AT ATLANTA... A RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 78 DEGREES WAS SET AT ATLANTA TODAY. THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 75 DEGREES SET IN 2015.

The back end always works out.

I just feel like so much has been added/programmed into these models such as all these new teleconnections & polar vortex & who knows what else, that the models are a jumbled mess. I feel forecasts were much more accurate in the 70’s-90’s. Of course adding the amount of hours they go out to does cause verification scores to decrease. Also adding the 10-15 days forecast sure does not help. If I remember correctly, 5 days was the most back in those years. Honestly it would probably be a good thing if the wx offices did not release the 240+ hours to the public. Actually 120 hours is sufficient. I know I’m wrong saying that, I just feel we have made forecasting much harder than we should. Some of these models need to be axed. Like the ole DGEX model. How I wish we could go back to simpler times.

0z GFS is a cold rainstorm for Jan 10 but it would make a significant dent in the drought—2+" precip for most in the forum also has some back end snow C-2"

Seems like if you bet on the driest model you can find 24 hours out from any given precip event, you'll do well 4 out of 5 times. Hopefully it will at least get cold, so my neighbor across the street who started a new lawn in September doesn't have to mow it on New Year's Eve.

78 would tie the record high in Chattanooga set in December 1951. It was 78 at Tri that same day, 77 in Knoxville, 73 here. 9 days later it was 23 here with a half inch of snow. Otherwise a really warm December. Unfortunately, that's one of the all time warmest winters in Tennessee history. Jan and Feb were both well AN.

What are you basing this on? Can you share your data? My assessment does not match yours at all. I thought the NAM did great. The average of its last few runs before go time was more accurate than any other model IMO. It picked up on the track of the 700mb low and delaying its weakening. It correctly depicted the resulting dryslot across the southern tier of NY. It brought sleet past the NJ-NY border (correct). It was the first model to target and then consistently target the NJ-NY border as the dividing line between minor and significant snow, particularly with the initial overrunning. It (along with the RDPS) correctly highlighted the low-level lingering snowfall into Saturday that the globals undermodeled. Just overlaying its QPF forecast and clown maps with the reported snowfall matches up much better than everything else. The GFS, GEFS, CMC, RDPS, GEPS, HRRR, UK, ICON, and ICON-EPS were all consistently too far southwest with the heaviest precipitation, total snow, and all-snow zone. Even the ECM had too much snow in most of NJ until the very end. It also failed to show the gradient across Long Island. Hopefully you are relying on more than a single NAM run and a wonky bufkit output for one station.

theres no disputing this. snow fell and it stayed around longer in the 5 boros in my lifetime. And I dont need a record to confirm that. its just much warmer day to day now.

Bump. KMQS hit 50.2 on Christmas and even your station got to 49.1. Good thing you didn’t take that bet.

Honestly, I would never have guessed based on your posts. I kinda thought you had the hots for all of them.

Have y'all noticed how much I hate our coach and coordinators? Goddamn please make some changes.

Except our OC prefers him to ride the bench lol

Forecasts for BOS in this thread range from 47" (44" lower end of a range) to 71" which is not a very large spread for a poll with seven responses. Some gave ranges and others gave a single prediction. In order of the mid-range value where a range was used, the forecasts for BOS are in this order from top to bottom ... Torch Tiger _ 71" ... GeorgeBM _ 60" ... dmillz25 _ 53" ... Ginx and Hoth _ 52.5" ... 40/70 BM _ 49" ... Roger Smith _ 47" Don Sutherland made a prediction of 35-45" for BOS in a different thread (his winter forecast in general interest forum). Twelve people including Don and me had a range from 20" to 50.7" in the annual snowfall forecast contest. In general, that group went lower and several were below 40". I can't extrapolate BOS forecasts from two other one-location predictions but they seem consistent with BOS being in this range. Any one of these could turn out best of the bunch, I am not seeing anything to nudge 47" in either direction at this point. (BOS is only at 4.3" to date)

hell yeah