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12/14: Sunday funday? Will the south win again?
Stormchaserchuck1 replied to TSSN+'s topic in Mid Atlantic
This is my biggest storm since 2018 -
December 14th - Snow showers or Plowable snow?
Baroclinic Zone replied to Sey-Mour Snow's topic in New England
Only 1/2” so far, eyeballing. -
lol recent Ninos have not been good here. Nina baby!
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Saturday night/Sunday 12/13-12/14 Jawn
Newman replied to Ralph Wiggum's topic in Philadelphia Region
Wow! I just checked the radar loop and your area has been under the best banding all night. Love it. -
I recently complied the data in more detail after getting some comments on exactly where the cutoff may be. This is what I posted in the NYC metro forum a few days ago and I will update when this month is complete. It seems to be that 4 to maybe 5 inches is where the cutoff level is. But the main takeaway is that the average to above average seasons went 6”+ in December. The snowfall data below is what I post each December for La Niña conditions using the newer RONI definition due to the warming of the global oceans. The December to seasonal snowfall relationship has worked 14 out of the last 15 times. My guess is the reason for the reliability as an early seasonal marker for below and normal to above average snowfall across the entire season is related to the La Niña seasonal progression. They tend to be more frontloaded in nature so their seasonal snowfall pattern is usually revealed early on in December. Plus in our warmer climate we have been noticing more repeating patterns perhaps related to non linear convective thresholds being met in tropical oceans driving the forcing. The relationship holds for NYC, EWR, and LGA. I will post the data for NYC below which is similar to the other two stations. For the sake of this discussion I have been using 4” of snow in December as the cutoff. But it’s possible that it could actually be a little higher around 5” inches based on the available data. So it’s fine if someone else wants to use a 4-5” snowfall range for December snowfall as the cutoff line for below and normal to above normal seasonal snowfall. I am not making the argument that the December snowfall is causing the outcome of the rest of the season to change. Just that it serves as a marker of what expect the rest of the season. Sometimes two data points can be related due to other underlying variables that may not yet be fully sampled by our current scientific understanding. I will update this post once we have the complete December snowfall data. NYC December to seasonal snowfall during the most recent 15 La Niña seasons as defined by RONI in either the fall into winter https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/data/indices/RONI.ascii.txt 24-25….2.8”….12.9” 22-23….T……….2.3” 21-22…..0.2”……17.9” 20-21…..10.5”….38.6” 17-18……7.7”……40.9” 16-17……3.2”……30.2” the one case in the last 30 years that didn’t work out 11-12……0.0”…..7.4” 10-11…..20.1”…..61.9” 08-09…..6.0”…..27.6” 07-08……2.9”…..11.9” 05-06…..9.7”…..40.0” 00-01…..13.4”…..35.0” 99-00…..T……….16.3” 98-99……2.0”…..12.7” 95-96…..11.5”……75.6”
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Central PA Winter 25/26 Discussion and Obs
ChescoWx replied to MAG5035's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
Another 1.5" has fallen since 445am now up to 7.5" of snow. Still heavy snow temp at 29.7 -
We need to move to a Nino to put you back into place
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Saturday night/Sunday 12/13-12/14 Jawn
ChescoWx replied to Ralph Wiggum's topic in Philadelphia Region
Another 1.5" has fallen since 445am now up to 7.5" of snow. Still heavy snow temp at 29.7 -
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32.7 so it's getting better finally going be mad icy tonight though
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Saturday night/Sunday 12/13-12/14 Jawn
BBasile replied to Ralph Wiggum's topic in Philadelphia Region
2.5". 32.2F -
Central PA Winter 25/26 Discussion and Obs
pawatch replied to MAG5035's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
25 degrees and just a dusting overnight. The high yesterday was 28 degrees. Never even got above freezing, a-shame all that cold going to waste. That’s my only gripe. Everyone enjoy your snow -
Saturday night/Sunday 12/13-12/14 Jawn
LVblizzard replied to Ralph Wiggum's topic in Philadelphia Region
Just woke up to about 5” on the ground in Allentown. Looks like we have one more band on its way to potentially push us closer to 6”. Great storm, love seeing something like this in mid December. -
Central PA Winter 25/26 Discussion and Obs
Caveman replied to MAG5035's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
4.3" and done snowing...didn't melt the tube yet...Valley Green, Etters, PA -
Snowing hard now with nice sized dendrites. Seeing some yellow on radar. Hopefully this lasts for awhile.
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Saturday night/Sunday 12/13-12/14 Jawn
penndotguy replied to Ralph Wiggum's topic in Philadelphia Region
27F Dp27 winds NW@6 not official but looks like 3-4”moderate snow still falling but looks like one more heavy to come through and that’s all she wrote out this way should be all said and done by 7ish. I’ll measure in a little bit. Congrats Mt. Holly spot on forecast out here in western Berks -
At least everything is white. Pretty with the xmas lights!
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Maybe an inch in Arlington . Curious what the total precip will be.
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12/14: Sunday funday? Will the south win again?
NorthArlington101 replied to TSSN+'s topic in Mid Atlantic
I don’t think I could get more than a 0.5” measurement off my deck right now. I’m calling it a night but will trust whatever comes in spotter report-wise for me. really kinda had 1.5” as my floor… whoops -
December 14th - Snow showers or Plowable snow?
The 4 Seasons replied to Sey-Mour Snow's topic in New England
1.3" at 5:40AM -
12/14: Sunday funday? Will the south win again?
PrinceFrederickWx replied to TSSN+'s topic in Mid Atlantic
35 and finally flipped to all snow, let’s see what we can get out of this. -
Columbia 5:45am. Nice snow ongoing! Temp 32° Eyeballing 1”-2” OTG
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December 14th - Snow showers or Plowable snow?
SouthCoastMA replied to Sey-Mour Snow's topic in New England
~2", eyeballing. -
December 14th - Snow showers or Plowable snow?
FlashFreeze replied to Sey-Mour Snow's topic in New England
A dusting, 26° very light snow -
But hey...it has snowed a couple times this December and it has been cold. Maybe we are slowly turning the corner to bringing December back as a winter month. March snow is rude
