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Saturday 6/27 drought reliever


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26 minutes ago, stormy said:

How would it be possible to issue a Flash Flood Warning considering the menial amount of rainfall for the past 24 hrs??..  

You are a severe disappointment compared to earlier expectations.

This is ludicrous. Agree or disagree. Don’t disparage. Wtf man. 

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38 minutes ago, stormy said:

How would it be possible to issue a Flash Flood Warning considering the menial amount of rainfall for the past 24 hrs??..  

You are a severe disappointment compared to earlier expectations.

You have never been a severe disappointment, because there never were any expectations. But we do have to put up with your drivel.

That kid is the future on this forum. He is learning, enthusiastic, and his posts have improved significantly. Conversely, one wants to hear your tired ass shit.

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50 minutes ago, stormy said:

How would it be possible to issue a Flash Flood Warning considering the menial amount of rainfall for the past 24 hrs??..  

You are a severe disappointment compared to earlier expectations.

Maybe read the discussion. The risk for heavy rain is in an urban area. Storm motions are slow. Doesn't have anything to do with lack of rainfall over last day or longer.

IMPACTS...Flooding may occur in poor drainage and urban areas.
  Storm drains and ditches may become clogged with debris.
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1 hour ago, vortex95 said:

Actually, is "flash flood watch" a discrete product anymore?  Recall a few years ago they removed a few types of products (Blizzard Watch was one) b/c it was getting to be too many product types.   "Flood watch" may be the all-encompassing standard now?

Given the antecedent very dry conditions and low water levels, again, I find a flood watch here a little much.

I believe a flood watch is it. If flash flooding materializes(or imminent), then a 'flash flood warning' is put into effect.

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Thanks guys! Makes sense why they issued a flood watch then. Though, I do wonder if there was merit for a flash flood watch as I still think its a distinct type of flooding. 

1 hour ago, vortex95 said:

Actually, is "flash flood watch" a discrete product anymore?  Recall a few years ago they removed a few types of products (Blizzard Watch was one) b/c it was getting to be too many product types.   "Flood watch" may be the all-encompassing standard now?

Given the antecedent very dry conditions and low water levels, again, I find a flood watch here a little much.

31 minutes ago, CAPE said:

I believe a flood watch is it. If flash flooding materializes(or imminent), then a 'flash flood warning' is put into effect.

 

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1 minute ago, dailylurker said:

Mission accomplished. I caught my jumbos today. Beautiful day for crabbing. The rain held off until we were done crabbing and sitting outside on the screen porch eating. I probably have gotten close to an inch so far. Radar looks interesting. 

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Send some over this way(of both). Nothing but a patch of drizzle here so far.

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3 minutes ago, SnowenOutThere said:

Thanks guys! Makes sense why they issued a flood watch then. Though, I do wonder if there was merit for a flash flood watch as I still think its a distinct type of flooding. 

 

There is no flash flood watch.. it's a flood watch. There is the potential for flash flooding to occur, and if it does, then a flash flood warning would be put into effect.

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1 hour ago, stormy said:

How would it be possible to issue a Flash Flood Warning considering the menial amount of rainfall for the past 24 hrs??..  

You are a severe disappointment compared to earlier expectations.

Man I wish I could meet the person behind these posts. I am genuinely curious why you are the way you are. I would love to meet the guy who types 20 periods and then does the next sentence correctly. I want to know who is on a weather form while being vehemently against climate change. I would love to see the person who seemingly thinks they know more than studied meteorologists. I want to meet the person who had "expectations" for a teenager on the AMWX forms, and then feels "severe disappointment" over what I've become. Why am I disappointing to you? Is it because I believe in degreed meteorologists over the whims of a stranger? Is it because I believe in the science of climate change? Is it because I don't baselessly use anecdotes for forecasting and I push back on those who do? Despite your often demeaning posts towards me I can't seem to find any emotion in me for you but curiosity, and maybe a bit of pity. 

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1 hour ago, Wintrest said:

This is ludicrous. Agree or disagree. Don’t disparage. Wtf man. 

This is his shtick. Like I said, it makes me curious and not upset. 

52 minutes ago, CAPE said:

You have never been a severe disappointment, because there never were any expectations. But we do have to put up with your drivel.

That kid is the future on this forum. He is learning, enthusiastic, and his posts have improved significantly. Conversely, one wants to hear your tired ass shit.

Thank you, I've said this before but its posters like you that have made me get to where I am now. I still remember when you told me to post less and listen more; and you were right, my earlier posts back in 2021-2024 were... bad. I still make mistakes, my analysis isn't great or even close to you or meteorologists ones, but I like to think I can now point out concepts that might impact events decently well. I'm taking climatology in the fall (maybe I'll learn some teleconnections for winter) and then synoptic meteorology in the spring so by next year at this time I should hopefully be far better. Then again, the posts from our mets here oftentimes teach the nuances that aren't covered in class. I hope they never see my sometimes skeptical posts as doubting their or the NWS knowledge and earned authority, but just trying to add a wrinkle into the conversation to help me learn. 

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14 minutes ago, dailylurker said:

I wish I could lol. Seems like theres a boundary across our region. Hopefully it lights up this evening. 

Its gonna be just south of me most likely. There is a front that is slowly sinking southward. The stuff that fired up earlier today(and went severe) was to my NE and also SE may have been enhanced by (DE) bay breezes/ ocean breezes. That's the problem with this setup and why many won't see anything significant- there is no large scale forcing mechanism and wind shear is pretty meager. The storms are more pulsed and difficult to sustain.

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9 minutes ago, CAPE said:

There is no flash flood watch.. it's a flood watch. There is the potential for flash flooding to occur, and if it does, then a flash flood warning would be put into effect.

I meant more so in the abstract as Vortex mentioned they no longer issue flash flood watches at all. I understand the rationale of "we have too many different products", but situations like this make me wonder if the flash flood watch could've stayed. 

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12 minutes ago, SnowenOutThere said:

I meant more so in the abstract as Vortex mentioned they no longer issue flash flood watches at all. I understand the rationale of "we have too many different products", but situations like this make me wonder if the flash flood watch could've stayed. 

No offense to average joes but the general public does not know or care about the difference between a flood and a flash flood. Might as well just say flood and call it a day. Only us weather weenies will understand the difference. 

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This needs to be brought back under control.  Who's running the show at these agencies?  A special marine morning with "a strong shower" and a FFW when I can't find anything more than some sprinkles within 100mi on radar. We've reached Baghdad Bob levels of forecasting.  I guess if you're gonna be wrong all the time you might as well be spectacularly wrong.  Get it to together, you're supposed to be pros.  

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Ok, I will jump into this crap for one post as a recently retired Fed.  The federal workforce will take decades if ever to recover from the last two years.  While dedicated, hard working employees remain to fulfill their agency's respective missions as best they can, the number of us that retired or left  has wiped out institutional knowledge, expertise, chains of command, infrastructure, and succession plans.  Budget cuts also inhibit technology upgrades that could make up for the lack of human resources.  It is a mess!!!! People are doing the best they can. If you don't like things, write your respective Congressional delegations and vote this fall.

This post can be moved to banter or deleted when the others are as well but don't disparage the few remaining feds trying to keep things going....

 

 

 

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