March Madness

[NW_of_GYX]

2 hours ago, vortex95 said:

5" Brunswick ME Thursday. 3-6" NNE Friday, now 6-12" for much of NNE Sun-Mon, and two more clippers w/ accumulating snow NNE later next week.

Well, unlike SNE, NNE is "only" close to avg snowfall season-to-date, except far N ME which is below.  So CoastalWx needs to learn to share, even though he was "DONE" w/ NNE earlier this winter!  

I need about 20” for average, possible I’ll get there but odds not great. 

[dryslot]

Oye

 

 

[mreaves]

6 hours ago, HIPPYVALLEY said:

Yup, good until Labor Day. 

Do you even drink water?

[rimetree]

1 hour ago, tunafish said:

 

Said the same.  PWM at 62".  Not questioning it by any means, just doesn't happen often.

That is surprising. Just a lot of medium/smaller events here surrounding the major at the end of January. Last season we had 12 events total and so far this season we're at 19. Greenland NH coop is showing 72" so it's close. Maybe we just had a little more from IVTs earlier in the season as they were brushing the coast.

[vortex95]

25 minutes ago, NW_of_GYX said:

I need about 20” for average, possible I’ll get there but odds not great. 

I was looking at CLI sites mainly.  I know some areas less, but also some areas more! 

[vortex95]

1 hour ago, dendrite said:

 

"12 Inches of Snow"  How creative for an album title given his name!  LOL.

[vortex95]

4 minutes ago, rimetree said:

That is surprising. Just a lot of medium/smaller events here surrounding the major at the end of January. Last season we had 12 events total and so far this season we're at 19. Greenland NH coop is showing 72" so it's close. Maybe we just had a little more from IVTs earlier in the season as they were brushing the coast.

The winter of the "strong" clippers.  Can't recall so many clippers over-performing in a winter here.

[Lava Rock]

Oye

 
 

Sunday River should do well

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[jbenedet]

2 hours ago, tunafish said:

 

Said the same.  PWM at 62".  Not questioning it by any means, just doesn't happen often.

60 sounds about right. 

[HIPPYVALLEY]

52 minutes ago, mreaves said:

Do you even drink water?

I just love drought talk.  

[HoarfrostHubb]

This has been a crappy March for SNE snow lovers.   

[HIPPYVALLEY]

Thinking I might be staying in N Conway an extra day.  

[MJO812]

21 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said:

This has been a crappy March for SNE snow lovers.   

Im at 0 for the month down here

[kdxken]

1 hour ago, HoarfrostHubb said:

This has been a crappy March for SNE    

Fyp

[kdxken]

 

 

 

[vortex95]

Regarding the West heat...

Ever notice that the opposite is largely ignored?  How about central AK this winter?  FAI records in infographic attached that still continue currently (31 days now w/ lows -40 or below and now up to 140 in a row not exceeding 32). FAI is running -22.6 F for the month so far.  Or the extent of below avg temps across North America earlier in the week?    You can't focus on just one area and run w/ that.

Or how about all-time state record March highs?  The attached map is not updated for the new state records in CA/NV/AZ/UT and the 98 in MA I think is off, but take note that 40 of 50 states set their March all-time record highs 50+ years ago, and most them 95+ years ago.  What caused it all then?

All valid points here.
 

[kdxken]

9 minutes ago, vortex95 said:

Regarding the West heat...

Ever notice that the opposite is largely ignored?  How about central AK this winter?  FAI records in infographic attached that still continue currently (31 days now w/ lows -40 or below and now up to 140 in a row not exceeding 32). FAI is running -22.6 F for the month so far.  Or the extent of below avg temps across North America earlier in the week?    You can't focus on just one area and run w/ that.

Or how about all-time state record March highs?  The attached map is not updated for the new state records in CA/NV/AZ/UT and the 98 in MA I think is off, but take note that 40 of 50 states set their March all-time record highs 50+ years ago, and most them 95+ years ago.  What caused it all then?

All valid points here.
 

How many of the Fairbanks temperatures were all time lows for the month?

[kdxken]

 

[dendrite]

15 minutes ago, vortex95 said:

Regarding the West heat...

Ever notice that the opposite is largely ignored?  How about central AK this winter?  FAI records in infographic attached that still continue currently (31 days now w/ lows -40 or below and now up to 140 in a row not exceeding 32). FAI is running -22.6 F for the month so far.  Or the extent of below avg temps across North America earlier in the week?    You can't focus on just one area and run w/ that.

Or how about all-time state record March highs?  The attached map is not updated for the new state records in CA/NV/AZ/UT and the 98 in MA I think is off, but take note that 40 of 50 states set their March all-time record highs 50+ years ago, and most them 95+ years ago.  What caused it all then?

All valid points here.
 

Got the April map? I mentioned AK the other day. 

[dendrite]

10 minutes ago, kdxken said:

How many of the Fairbanks temperatures were all time lows for the month?

It’s been impressive. Not sure about the validity of the 1911 stretch, but if you toss that then Fairbanks tied the next coldest reading of -49. 4 record mins this month and lots of runner ups.

[dendrite]

Those 1911 readings look legit…brutal cold on the original COOP forms for multiple sites. -68 at Allakaket is nuts for March. Alaskan yore.

[vortex95]

51 minutes ago, kdxken said:

How many of the Fairbanks temperatures were all time lows for the month?

I don't see how that is relevant.  Picking one type of record w/o looking at the big picture does not tell the entire story.

But if you want to use that notion, has Phoenix or any other climate location in the Lower 48 have had such persistent, long-term cold all winter that has set records for duration/frequency?

Or how did 40 of 50 states set their all-time March record 50+ years ago and most 95+ years ago?  And that is more telling and representative b/c it was not a single heat event and it was spread out over much of the country.

Also, March 1879 had a similar high heat in the Desert SW.  PHX hit 100 F on March 3, 1879, 15 days earlier that the official first 100 set on March 18 this month, and that same month, PHX hit 112 F on March 30, 4 F higher than any temp in this current heat wave, and this was before any UHI, which PHX is among the worst placed sites for UHI bias for a U.S. climate site (Baltimore/Inner Harbor is likely the worst). 

The start of official continuous PHX records is 1895, but that does not man you ignore what occurred before any climate station period of record (this data can be found at NCEI).  That would be like ignoring the major 1635 and 1815 hurricanes that hit SNE b/c BOS official climate record starts in 1872.  Or the Great Snow of 1717.
 

[vortex95]

16 minutes ago, dendrite said:

Got the April map? I mentioned AK the other day. 

I'm taking about the MSM in general, not this group.

Not saying the heat in the Desert SW is not impressive and record-breaking, but one needs to hear the entire story and know history for proper perspective to make good assessments and reasonable opinions.  A major problem is that narratives and stories are all too often one-sided.

[FXWX]

5 hours ago, Lava Rock said:

Chem trails

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Obviously! Lol

[vortex95]

42 minutes ago, kdxken said:

 

W/ the strong UHI bias that occur here even during that day, it is very likely that PHX would not have hit 105 F for the past 3 days (105 F is the max the last 3 days).  You can't leave this out of the discussion and act like this is not a factor.  Otherwise, it is a lie of omission.

PHX is located in the heart of the downtown, not typical for a major airport, but that's how it is.  As a result, a warm bias exists strongly.

Ever look how PHX has grown since 1870?  It is among the fastest-growing cites out there, and still is.  Look at population growth alone in the mid-20th century, and at the same time a significant spike in avg temps occurred that does not exist nearly to this extent outside the city.  A similar issue exists in LAS.  So you really can't compare many records of today as objectively hotter/hottest when a concrete jungle leads to a consistent warm bias.  And this systematic bias exists in various degrees at many climate stations around the world b/c they are located in populated areas that experience growth over time.
 

[vortex95]

17 minutes ago, FXWX said:

Obviously! Lol

You forget about HAARP!!!

[dendrite]

Everyone is blowing away their records equally as impressive though. I don’t think the UHI has much to do with this…especially on daytime highs. 

[dendrite]

3rd straight 105° at PHX today.

They had one (1) 100° reading ever in March going back to 1895 and they’ve pulled 102-105-105-105 the last 4 days.

[dendrite]

“Only” 107° for Yuma today.

 6 100°+ readings for March there on record coming into this year (max 102°) and their last 4 days have been 103-106-109-107.

[HIPPYVALLEY]

23 minutes ago, vortex95 said:

You forget about HAARP!!!

Shhh, those who know, don’t say.