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OBS: 1/25-26 Snow/Sleet


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I was out on a ski tour for several hours. The snow is much denser than I would have expected. It was fluffy before 9am and then increasingly dense. I don't think ratios have been great since this morning. After 12pm I began noticing melted flakes foretelling mid-level warming. It's been going back and forth between various combinations of snow and sleet since 1:45.

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8 minutes ago, wthrmn654 said:

Where are the Debbie downers now?  Solid forecast by Upton.  

After they shaved back like 5 or 6 times. They had all of LI and NYC in the 12-18" range(specifically around 12-15 from NYC-Suffolk) and slowly cut back update after update. I never went higher than 8-12 there from the jump -about 72hrs out. 

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Hats off to the NAM model on the sleet timing. It won again. If it was a little light on the QPF before the mix, most guidance was. Now let's cool the mid-levels and flip back to all snow. Radar looks amazing for the Hudson Valley region!

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Just now, The 4 Seasons said:

After they shaved back like 5 or 6 times. They had all of LI and NYC in the 12-18" range(specifically around 12-15 from NYC-Suffolk) and slowly cut back update after update. I never went higher than 8-12 there from the jump -about 72hrs out. 

Yep, I never saw anything to support 15" here. I guess they leaned on the NBM and GFS from 3 days ago?

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1 minute ago, eduggs said:

Hats off to the NAM model on the sleet timing. It won again. If it was a little light on the QPF before the mix, most guidance was. Now let's cool the mid-levels and flip back to all snow. Radar looks amazing for the Hudson Valley region!

Blizzard like right now without the high winds, which I'm not a fan of anyway. 

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1 minute ago, jm1220 said:

Yep, I never saw anything to support 15" here. I guess they leaned on the NBM and GFS from 3 days ago?

The NBM is gospel, whatever you see that as, that's what theyll go then adjust up or down a bit from there. I knew when the NBM was throwing out big numbers they were going to go big there. 

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2 minutes ago, Bxstormwatcher360 said:

Double barrel action. The coastal is trying to get itself going. But the low in ga is a wild card.?

The only lows that matter are the one over West Virginia and the one off the coast of the Delmarva.

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2 minutes ago, eduggs said:

Hats off to the NAM model on the sleet timing. It won again. If it was a little light on the QPF before the mix, most guidance was. Now let's cool the mid-levels and flip back to all snow. Radar looks amazing for the Hudson Valley region!

It's a bit misleading as the snow moved in early so the entire progression of the storm started earlier and any changeover should therefore be calculated accordingly. 

That's why it missed the totals the way it did, other models had the duration of snow (8-10 hours) depicted far better. 

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4 minutes ago, eduggs said:

Hats off to the NAM model on the sleet timing. It won again. If it was a little light on the QPF before the mix, most guidance was. Now let's cool the mid-levels and flip back to all snow. Radar looks amazing for the Hudson Valley region!

Wrong. It had 2-3” in areas that got 10”.

it was the worst model for snowfall totals. Enough. 

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4 minutes ago, eduggs said:

Hats off to the NAM model on the sleet timing. It won again. If it was a little light on the QPF before the mix, most guidance was. Now let's cool the mid-levels and flip back to all snow. Radar looks amazing for the Hudson Valley region!

Ehh the NAM was not that good with this storm, as another poster mentioned the whole storm as often happens progressed quicker but the NAM had much less snow before the sleet than what actually happened.

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18 minutes ago, psv88 said:

So I guess Islip had over 9” before change to sleet. Solid forecast by Upton ignoring the NAM

The NAM was the first model to bring sleet to our area and eventually most of NNJ and southern Westchester. Eventually all other guidance followed suit. It was the earliest to mix today and it was RIGHT. All other guidance was WRONG. PIVOTAL CLOWN MAPS DO NOT EQUAL THE NAM FORECAST SNOW ACCUMULATION. People seem to be clueless about interpreting model output. UK, GFS, Euro were way too late and south with the mix line.

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