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January 24-26: Miracle or Mirage JV/Banter Thread!


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1 minute ago, WxUSAF said:

That seems reasonable. Doesn’t CHO usually CAD better than the metro area? 

I don't know! I just got here. Though I think they do better when it comes to freezing rain and surface cold air but this setup to my knowledge is all based on 850-700mb warm layers which should torch faster the further south. I'm just worried that I end up with a major ice storm of freezing rain. 

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Guys I've achieved true weeniedom.

I've cancelled a trip that I was going on this weekend to Montana just to stay here for the snow.

Montana's got zero snow for the next like 10 days where I was going. I go there regularly so it's not a huge deal, but... literally here altering plans over major storms.

I apologize in advance if I ruin the storm because of this. If so you can blame me.

 

To be fair, I was also worried about the dog watcher not being able to get to my house, but that's just an excuse.

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Just now, SnowenOutThere said:

I don't know! I just got here. Though I think they do better when it comes to freezing rain and surface cold air but this setup to my knowledge is all based on 850-700mb warm layers which should torch faster the further south. I'm just worried that I end up with a major ice storm of freezing rain. 

From my 4 years in Cville... it can hang on a bit more with the CAD. Honestly, I think you'll do fairly similar to a lot of NOVA on this storm, though that take might age badly. Don't think you really sleet that much more, think you turn to sleet sooner but also start a bit sooner. 

Really significant FRZA seems increasingly unlikely to me. Feel like it's snow -> sleet for most of us.

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1 minute ago, catoctin wx said:

Anyone else getting annoyed with Apple Weather creating insane forecasts and people believing them? I'm currently in Rockville and it's saying 20-25"  on Sunday which is so far beyond any real projections.  Is this just my pet peeve right now?

The problem too is its getting shared EVERYWHERE.  My friend group, X, facebook.  Ive seen some mets online trying to fight back against it.

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1 minute ago, catoctin wx said:

Anyone else getting annoyed with Apple Weather creating insane forecasts and people believing them? I'm currently in Rockville and it's saying 20-25"  on Sunday which is so far beyond any real projections.  Is this just my pet peeve right now?

I'm a recently retired teacher and all day I'd have kids telling me how much it was going to snow.  Like most things in my career, and to keep my sanity, I just smiled and nodded.

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Just now, LP08 said:

The problem too is its getting shared EVERYWHERE.  My friend group, X, facebook.  Ive seen some mets online trying to fight back against it.

Exactly.  People at work are quoting it and then I feel like a dick when I try to correct them based on actual forecasts and projections

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1 minute ago, nw baltimore wx said:

I'm a recently retired teacher and all day I'd have kids telling me how much it was going to snow.  Like most things in my career, and to keep my sanity, I just smiled and nodded.

My wife is in education.  The only people in the world who are as obsessed with weather as meteorologists are teachers lol

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12 minutes ago, catoctin wx said:

20.38.  Damn that is specific!

I know hahaha 

12 minutes ago, nw baltimore wx said:

Where's the "wtf?" reaction?

lol yep

My windows computer had 22” listed yesterday hahaha 

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2 minutes ago, MN Transplant said:

There is a real chance that many of us get more precipitation as sleet than snow, and that sucks.

I'm worried too but my only hopium is that it is a true artic airmass (in place before the storm) will be a little more stubborn than usual WAA.  I've been here too long.  That warm air aloft ALWAYS comes in quicker than modeled.  I've been telling friends 6-10 so hopefully at least 6" can be reached.

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4 minutes ago, MN Transplant said:

There is a real chance that many of us get more precipitation as sleet than snow, and that sucks.

I know people are blowing off the NAM as crazy, which it probably is, but if it is handling dynamics correctly and it shows that sleet line progress so quickly I wouldn’t bet against it. I was in NYC for the Boxing Day storm and from a couple days out it was hammering a quick changeover that the other models didn’t have and it was completely right. 

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28 minutes ago, LP08 said:

The problem too is its getting shared EVERYWHERE.  My friend group, X, facebook.  Ive seen some mets online trying to fight back against it.

You know it’s a good winter when irrational hype over speculative models or forecasts is spreading like wildfire.

I remember it happened in 2014 for the first time, and professional mets were so furious and had no idea how to stop it.

Sometimes it was a random Facebook page, or an image of a control run showing 2’ of snow 10 days away. But the masses grabbed on to it and went bezerk.

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4 minutes ago, SnowenOutThere said:

I know people are blowing off the NAM as crazy, which it probably is, but if it is handling dynamics correctly and it shows that sleet line progress so quickly I wouldn’t bet against it. I was in NYC for the Boxing Day storm and from a couple days out it was hammering a quick changeover that the other models didn’t have and it was completely right. 

I agree. I know the NAM sucks at this range but it's showing exactly how we often fail IMBY with these types of setups (like Feb 2014). I'm still (mostly) wishcasting for the GFS, though trusting it is probably even dumber than trusting the NAM at this point. :lol:

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15 minutes ago, MN Transplant said:

There is a real chance that many of us get more precipitation as sleet than snow, and that sucks.

Yea the changeover seems to get triggered by that spoke of Baja energy rotating closer by midday Sunday. Hope this doesn’t become a Feb 94. Unlikely, but it would really help to get a closed low below our latitude again at some point like most of the big storms do.

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@MountainGeek @clskinsfan @Wxtrix @DDweatherman 

Appreciate all the responses from my little inquiry on hosting me out towards your area, or helping with designating where to stay if I were to chase out that direction. 
 

Looks like some friends of mine out by Martinsburg said they would love to host me, so I think that’s the route that I’ll end up going. I’ll confer later today, but again, I appreciate the responses and warm welcome (Clskinfan) to your home. Should be a fun storm with a heck of a front end thump, at the very least for your areas. Enjoy!! :) 

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