Krs4Lfe Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago Models punting the originally expected "good pattern" through first week of January. Onto the next week, and the next week, and I bet the week after that. Mild and warmth returns to most of CONUS except northeast starting next week. No sustained cold or snow for most of country. We might remain cold, but it'll be hard to snow with such persistent warm all around. Terrible look 1 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volcanic Winter Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Wind has been absolutely insane. My Tempest is NOT in a good spot for measuring windspeed and it’s routinely returning 30mph gusts, higher than I’ve ever seen from it except in like 2-3 other instances which were one off gusts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 39 minutes ago, Krs4Lfe said: Models punting the originally expected "good pattern" through first week of January. Onto the next week, and the next week, and I bet the week after that. Mild and warmth returns to most of CONUS except northeast starting next week. No sustained cold or snow for most of country. We might remain cold, but it'll be hard to snow with such persistent warm all around. Terrible look You said the same thing about this month. Take a break. 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Clipper Thursday and clipper Sunday. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 51 minutes ago, Krs4Lfe said: Models punting the originally expected "good pattern" through first week of January. Onto the next week, and the next week, and I bet the week after that. Mild and warmth returns to most of CONUS except northeast starting next week. No sustained cold or snow for most of country. We might remain cold, but it'll be hard to snow with such persistent warm all around. Terrible look The cold will definitely take a break at some point, but it took a break in every good winter we’ve had. We don’t live in the Yukon. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 20 minutes ago, jm1220 said: The cold will definitely take a break at some point, but it took a break in every good winter we’ve had. We don’t live in the Yukon. of course it will take a break but smaller breaks through January before the next arctic front comes through - also those great lakes cutters especially on the GFS are hard to believe with that massive blocking stretched across Greenland and westward - GFS has done this before trying to force the LP's to far into the block 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 7 minutes ago, NEG NAO said: of course it will take a break but smaller breaks through January before the next arctic front comes through - also those great lakes cutters especially on the GFS are hard to believe with that massive blocking stretched across Greenland and westward - GFS has done this before trying to force the LP's to far into the block Be careful dismissing those cutters. Many hobbyists have made the mistake of discounting cutters due to a block...yet we have seen many cutters slice right into those blocks like a warm knife through butter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David-LI Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago euro 12z 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 8 minutes ago, David-LI said: euro 12z Interesting setup. Probably an inch or two type deal but nice refresher and possibly more with just a little better/sooner redevelopment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cleetussnow Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 3 minutes ago, MJO812 said: Hair dryer should clean it all up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU848789 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 52 minutes ago, David-LI said: euro 12z At least half of that is 1/1, although I'd be happy with a fresh coating each day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prue11 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Wouldn’t surprise me if east end of li ends up with 2” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU848789 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago On 12/29/2025 at 3:23 PM, RU848789 said: At the 30,000 foot level, the EPS, GEPS and GEFS ensemble means are far more similar (for 95, inland and even through interior PA, NY, New England) out to 360 hrs than they are different, indicating pretty good agreement on the general idea of a snowy period with most of this falling after 1/5 (all have <1" for most of the 95 corridor from DC thru NYC and even inland a bit through then). The EPS, GEPS and GEFS ensemble means for snowfall through 1/13, 12Z, generally dropped a decent amount in the last 24 hours (except for the GEPS north of NYC and not because any snow was forecast to fall over the last 24 hrs), presumably reflecting the pattern not being quite as good for cold and snow as it was 24 hours ago. On today's 12Z ensembles through 1/13, 12Z, Edison, NJ (25 miles SW of CPK, whose numbers look wonky on these graphics) dropped from 4.0" to 2.0" on the EPS, it fell from 3.5" to 2.8" on the GEPS and it fell from 3.5" to 2.3" on the GEFS. Picking one more point, White Plains dropped from 4.5" to 2.8 on the EPS, it jumped from 3.7" to 4.8" on the GEPS (the only increase) and it fell from 4.3" to 3.0" on the GEFS. Given how far out these go, I'm not even going to attempt to explain any of this - just noting a modest to significant decrease for most of the 95 corridor at least over the last 24 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago I still hold to 1/12-1/14 before any big change happens. Looks more and more likely it is around that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_other_guy Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 4 hours ago, Krs4Lfe said: Models punting the originally expected "good pattern" through first week of January. Onto the next week, and the next week, and I bet the week after that. Mild and warmth returns to most of CONUS except northeast starting next week. No sustained cold or snow for most of country. We might remain cold, but it'll be hard to snow with such persistent warm all around. Terrible look Didnt you say that about Christmas week? And arent we going to be at or about freezing through the first week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastalplainsnowman Posted 35 minutes ago Share Posted 35 minutes ago 25 minutes ago, the_other_guy said: Didnt you say that about Christmas week? And arent we going to be at or about freezing through the first week? There have been a few years in the past 25 or so where the models consistently called for a warmup or cool down two weeks out, just on the horizon, but it would not materialize, and in response the models would seemingly just keep pushing said warmup or cool down out yet another few weeks, perpetually out there on a two week horizon. Eventually folks on here would start to say "it just seems to want to be warm [or cold] this winter" The models would never quite catch on though, continually promising a change was just around the corner. I wonder if this is shaping up to be one of those years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krs4Lfe Posted 30 minutes ago Share Posted 30 minutes ago 34 minutes ago, the_other_guy said: Didnt you say that about Christmas week? And arent we going to be at or about freezing through the first week? It’s true that it will be cold here. Rest of country will return to warmth which decreases chance for snow across the US and decreases our snow chances as well. We’ll be the only part of the US until mid January with colder weather. Not ideal for the type of amplified bowling ball type systems we’ll need in order to get our snowfall up to average. January 2022 had a big chance across US after a warm December 2021 which provided ample chances for snow across US. Same with January 2024. Even January 2025 after a rather dry and mild December. But still no signs of a wholescale pattern change through mid January imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted 30 minutes ago Share Posted 30 minutes ago 36 minutes ago, the_other_guy said: Didnt you say that about Christmas week? And arent we going to be at or about freezing through the first week? I still don't know which old poster he is. Seems like a troll who loves warmth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternLI Posted 15 minutes ago Share Posted 15 minutes ago 8 minutes ago, Krs4Lfe said: It’s true that it will be cold here. Rest of country will return to warmth which decreases chance for snow across the US and decreases our snow chances as well. We’ll be the only part of the US until mid January with colder weather. Not ideal for the type of amplified bowling ball type systems we’ll need in order to get our snowfall up to average. January 2022 had a big chance across US after a warm December 2021 which provided ample chances for snow across US. Same with January 2024. Even January 2025 after a rather dry and mild December. But still no signs of a wholescale pattern change through mid January imo So you're punting January too now? On 11/24/2025 at 10:36 AM, Krs4Lfe said: Yeah we've seen a big breakdown in what was going to be favorable for cold and snow. December is now looking quite mild for our area. Seems like the positive AO will link up with SER and keep us warmer than normal in December. That won't work for snowfall chances. Our best hope is that the cold and snow builds up to our west and north and cold can bleed down towards our area. But like I said yesterday, things don't look too active for much of CONUS for forseeable future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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