December 2025 OBS and Discussion

[IrishRob17]

Looks like 4 will do it for the low here. 

[NittanyWx]

10 minutes ago, lee59 said:

Jay Peak Vermont received 100 inches of snow in November.

Gotta love Jayflation

[the_other_guy]

13F in westchester

[qg_omega]

Impressive cold days

[Brian5671]

Cold and dry-just like last winter.  Boring but impressive cold-11 here for the low with bare ground on 12/9

[Brian5671]

2 hours ago, MJO812 said:

Looks like a thaw on all the models after next week.

good if it happens-cold and dry is worthless

[bluewave]

Hopefully, we can at least put a few inches on the ground while we still have the cold this weekend. 

 

[the_other_guy]

1 minute ago, bluewave said:

Hopefully, we can at least put a few inches on the ground while we still have the cold this weekend. 

 

If youre on board…madonne…gas up the snowblowers

[jm1220]

Just now, bluewave said:

Hopefully, we can at least put a few inches on the ground while we still have the cold this weekend. 

 

Yep I can see a possibility the Sun event can work out if we get the timing right with this S/W and some amplification. But it’ll be one of those deals where we probably have to wait until 72 hours out and all the features are well sampled given the very fast pattern. It could end up being suppressed again or amp more.  Would be very nice to at least get on the board for measurable snow given all this cold. 

[MJO812]

5 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

good if it happens-cold and dry is worthless

Last winter was similiar to this. Still early yet in the winter. Cold and dry.

[Brian5671]

3 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

Last winter was similiar to this. Still early yet in the winter. Cold and dry.

No southern stream is a killer.   Mostly little events and most with poor tracks like tomorrow.

[cleetussnow]

4 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

Last winter was similiar to this. Still early yet in the winter. Cold and dry.

At least it’s not 56 and dews like it will be on the 24th and 25th.  

[bluewave]

7 minutes ago, jm1220 said:

Yep I can see a possibility the Sun event can work out if we get the timing right with this S/W and some amplification. But it’ll be one of those deals where we probably have to wait until 72 hours out and all the features are well sampled given the very fast pattern. It could end up being suppressed again or amp more.  Would be very nice to at least get on the board for measurable snow given all this cold. 

The most measurable snowfall in NYC in the post Boxing Day Blizzard era since 2011 has been between the December 11-20th.

Time Series Summary for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY 12-01 to 12-10 snowfall 
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2024-12-10	T	0
2023-12-10	T	0
2022-12-10	0.0	0
2021-12-10	T	0
2020-12-10	T	0
2019-12-10	1.6	0
2018-12-10	0.0	0
2017-12-10	4.6	0
2016-12-10	0.0	0
2015-12-10	0.0	0
2014-12-10	1.0	0
2013-12-10	2.1	0
2012-12-10	0.0	0
2011-12-10	0.0	0

 

Time Series Summary for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY 12-11 to 12-20 snowfall
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2024-12-20	T	0
2023-12-20	0.0	0
2022-12-20	T	0
2021-12-20	0.0	0
2020-12-20	10.5	0
2019-12-20	0.9	0
2018-12-20	T	0
2017-12-20	2.4	0
2016-12-20	3.2	0
2015-12-20	0.0	0
2014-12-20	T	0
2013-12-20	6.5	0
2012-12-20	0.0	0
2011-12-20	0.0	0

 

Time Series Summary for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY 12-21 to 12-31 snowfall
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2024-12-31	2.8	0
2023-12-31	0.0	0
2022-12-31	T	0
2021-12-31	0.2	0
2020-12-31	0.0	0
2019-12-31	T	0
2018-12-31	T	0
2017-12-31	0.7	0
2016-12-31	T	0
2015-12-31	T	0
2014-12-31	T	0
2013-12-31	T	0
2012-12-31	0.4	0
2011-12-31	0.0	0

 

 

[CPcantmeasuresnow]

19 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

good if it happens-cold and dry is worthless

Yeah that's in the careful what you wish for category. Normal temps this time of year are workable, anything much above slims the chances. 

[SACRUS]

22/7 off a low of 10.   Near or at freezing for highs today, sunny.  Clouds later and a mix of snow /rain into the morning.  Warmest day of the next 7 Wed with highs back into the 40s.  Arctic front brings snow/squall late Sat into Sunday.  Cold stretch Dec 11 - Dec 17 with the coldest next Mon - Wed Dec 15- 17.   Moderation to / above normal in the Dec 18 - 24 period.  Longer range showing some wetter/stormer Christmas/eve -Day but its way out there.

 

[Brian5671]

29 minutes ago, cleetussnow said:

At least it’s not 56 and dews like it will be on the 24th and 25th.  

Not sure why cold matters on xmas-it's an indoor holiday.    Whether it's 12 or 56 you're sitting inside

[SACRUS]

Records:

Highs:

EWR: 68 (1966)
NYC: 66 (1966)
LGA: 66 (1966)
JFK: 64 (1991)


Lows:

EWR: 12 (1934)
NYC: 7 (1876)
LGA: 13 (1968)
JFK: 14 (1968)


Historical:

 

1786 - A second great snowstorm in just five days brought another 15 inches of snow to Morristown NJ, on top of the eight inches which fell on the 7th and 8th, and the 18 inches which fell on the 4th and 5th. The total snowfall for the week was thus 41 inches. New Haven CT received 17 inches of new snow in the storm. Up to four four feet of snow covered the ground in eastern Massachusetts following the storms. (9th-10th) (David Ludlum) (The Weather Channel)

1879" December 9th through the 10th, Chicago, Illinois: Chicago sets record highs for both 9 and 10 December, and they occur but minutes apart. During the late evening of the 9th, southerly winds bring warm air into the city. The thermometer peaks at 62 °F just before midnight and remains there into the wee hours of the 10th before a cold front brings colder temperatures that morning. (Ref. WxDoctor)

1917 - A severe winter storm struck the Ohio Valley and the Great Lakes Region. It produced 25 inches of snow and wind gusts to 78 mph at Buffalo NY. The storm produced 26 inches of snow at Vevay IND, with drifts fourteen feet high. By the 16th of the month people could walk across the frozen Ohio River from Vavey into Kentucky. (8th-9th) (David Ludlum) (The Weather Channel)

1961: Snowstorm hits central Minnesota. Mora, MN gets about a foot of snow. (Ref. AccWeather Weather History)
 

1987 - The fifth storm in nine days kept the northwestern U.S. wet and windy. Winds along the coast of Washington gusted to 75 mph at Oceans Shores and at Hoquiam, and the northern and central coastal mountains of Oregon were drenched with three inches of rain in ten hours, flooding some rivers. Snowfall totals in the Cascade Mountains of Washington State ranged up to 36 inches in the Methow Valley. High winds in Oregon blew a tree onto a moving automobile killing three persons and injuring two others at Mill City. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1988 - A winter storm blanketed the Southern and Central Appalachians with up to ten inches of snow. Arctic air invaded the north central U.S. bringing subzero cold to Minnesota and North Dakota. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1989 - A strong storm produced wind gusts of 40 to 65 mph from the Alaska Peninsula to the North Gulf Coast of Alaska. Southeasterly winds gusted to 75 mph in the Anchorage hillside. Gusty winds associated with a strong cold front caused a power outage across much of the island of Hawaii. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1989: A strong storm produced wind gusts of 40 to 65 mph from the Alaska Peninsula to the North Gulf Coast of Alaska. Southeasterly winds gusted to 75 mph in the Anchorage hillside. Gusty winds associated with a strong cold front caused a power outage across much of the island of Hawaii. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1995: Record 24-hour snowfalls of 38 inches in Buffalo, NY and of 28 inches in Sault Ste. Marie, MI on December 9-10 which were due to lake-effect snowstorms. (Ref. AccWeather Weather History)

2005 : NYC received 5.8 inches snow (7.5 for the week).

2018: The Richmond International Airport had 11.5 inches of snow on December 9, 2018 which was the second heaviest single-day December snowfall on the Richmond records. The record was December 22nd 1908 when 15 inches occurred. Yesterday’s snowfall total also already makes December the 6th snowiest December on record. 

[SACRUS]

core of the cold into the northeast until the next reinforcing shot between the Dec - 12 - 16 - colder than this one

[[email protected]]

29 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

Not sure why cold matters on xmas-it's an indoor holiday.    Whether it's 12 or 56 you're sitting inside

With the exception of 2022, we always torch at Christmas time and it always rains on New Years Eve/day!

[WeatherGeek2025]

31 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

Not sure why cold matters on xmas-it's an indoor holiday.    Whether it's 12 or 56 you're sitting inside

yeah if no snow please give me 55 degrees 

[Brian5671]

3 minutes ago, [email protected] said:

With the exception of 2022, we always torch at Christmas time and it always rains on New Years Eve/day!

yeah it's often warm and wet that week

[FPizz]

8.8

[MJO812]

1 hour ago, Brian5671 said:

Not sure why cold matters on xmas-it's an indoor holiday.    Whether it's 12 or 56 you're sitting inside

Because of the Christmas shows that always show snow.

[Brian5671]

2 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

Because of the Christmas shows that always show snow.

Yeah i guess.  Alot of the world celebrates the holiday in warm weather in reality.

[NorthShoreWx]

We were busy sucking heat out the sound all night.  Low here was 20.  Wind stayed up all night.

Water temperatures now into the high 30s/low 40s.

 

[psv88]

2 minutes ago, NorthShoreWx said:

We were busy sucking heat out the sound all night.  Low here was 20.  Wind stayed up all night.

Water temperatures now into the high 30s/low 40s.

 

15.7 here

[ForestHillWx]

Touched 8 in Chester at 6:00 or so. Up to a balmy 22 now. 

[North and West]

Not sure why cold matters on xmas-it's an indoor holiday.    Whether it's 12 or 56 you're sitting inside

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[Big Jims Videos]

Low of 17.8 this morning here at the beach. Impressive.