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July 2025 Obs/Disco ... possible historic month for heat


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16 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said:

This. We would be highly unlikely to get a -6 in January just as much. The temps since that June heat wave may not be memorable, but what the general public constantly comments on is how the humidity regime has changed. 

Here or in the basin? Two very different things :lol: 

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44 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

I guess I'm not following.  Where is this normal that was raised?  So if you go into the NWS climate page for Cleveland and Toledo... the climate data says they are using the 1991 - 2020 climate normals like everyone else.

You're telling me they just added degrees to this?  Everything I'm finding right now on the F6 and climate pages show it is based on 1991 to 2020.

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All I'm saying is the normal is 1F higher than the mean (which I explicitly demonstrated above by comparing the two). Why? I don't know. Doesn't seem to be the case anywhere else, so that's why I was speculating it may be piloting a new method of calculating normals to factor in warming climate. Other than that, I have no more to offer on the topic.

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Just now, kdxken said:

Southern New Hotshire wins again.

Thanks what the prize? Lol Every mother_ucker service call we had was in full sun, last stop in Hollis, NH truck read 94/69 freaking dustbowl, hope to get some rain or something tomorrow 

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8 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said:

All I'm saying is the normal is 1F higher than the mean (which I explicitly demonstrated above by comparing the two). Why? I don't know. Doesn't seem to be the case anywhere else, so that's why I was speculating it may be piloting a new method of calculating normals to factor in warming climate. Other than that, I have no more to offer on the topic.

 

1 hour ago, TheClimateChanger said:

 

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Ahh ok, I see.  You are basing it off wherever these numbers above are from?

I wouldn't consider those official, the other data you shared with the actual climate data are the real numbers. 

Is this some local project or something (the above charts)?  They don't even have a time frame.  Maybe that's just a 10-year average instead of 30-year average.

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3 minutes ago, kdxken said:

Boston and Worcester both reached a 91° heat index. Is that all that's needed these days?

 

BOS has a seabreeze and ORH a bit lower on the dews, but many HIs are 95-100 in SNE. Just looking at the obs.

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22 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

 

Ahh ok, I see.  You are basing it off wherever these numbers above are from?

I wouldn't consider those official, the other data you shared with the actual climate data are the real numbers. 

Is this some local project or something (the above charts)?  They don't even have a time frame.  Maybe that's just a 10-year average instead of 30-year average.

They don’t just take 30 years of data and divide by 30. There’s statistical analysis involved. That’s why the numbers don’t exactly match.

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8 minutes ago, dendrite said:

They don’t just take 30 years of data and divide by 30. There’s statistical analysis involved. That’s why the numbers don’t exactly match.

Really?  Ha, I thought it was just a 30-year straight average.  That's egg on me then.

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5 minutes ago, Sey-Mour Snow said:

Almost every inland airport ob is around 100 heat index, it’s verified heat index just as forecast besides the colder sites. 

My question is what's the lower end of the heat advisory ?  In other words, are they advising for a 91° reading?

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Sey-Mour Snow said:

Almost every inland airport ob is around 100 heat index, it’s verified heat index just as forecast besides the colder sites. 

Even just looking at temps, widespread 90 - 95F and the dews are all like 68-74F, so easily mid/upper 90s HI.

The I-90 corridor from BOS to ORH is littered with 95's as ambient temps.  The minute you step away from the water in BOS it goes 92-95F without factoring in the dews.

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Just now, DavisStraight said:

90/73, asked my neighbor that just got back from his home in Florida what place is worse, he said it's the same. He has a nice pool to cool off in.

The station in Woodstock at 666 feet was showing 90/74 for a HI of 100.  That's some tropical stuff.

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2 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

Even just looking at temps, widespread 90 - 95F and the dews are all like 68-74F, so easily mid/upper 90s HI.

The I-90 corridor from BOS to ORH is littered with 95's as ambient temps.  The minute you step away from the water in BOS it goes 92-95F without factoring in the dews.

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Not many cool spots. 

https://pauland.net/temperaturemap.html

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