LibertyBell Posted July 12, 2025 Share Posted July 12, 2025 56 minutes ago, bluewave said: Yeah, the ridge axis was to our west. This is why JFK only has around half as many 90° days as NJ this year so far. The warm spots in NJ may very well top 40 days reaching 90° again this year. While the number to the east of NYC with the sea breeze will be much lower. The ridge axis has been located to the east of New England again this summer. 90° Day Data for January 1, 2025 through July 11, 2025 Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Newark Area ThreadEx 18 OCEAN COUNTY AIRPORT WBAN 18 NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP WBAN 18 TETERBORO AIRPORT COOP 16 HIGHTSTOWN 2 W COOP 16 TETERBORO AIRPORT WBAN 16 CALDWELL ESSEX COUNTY AP WBAN 16 HARRISON COOP 16 PHILADELPHIA/MT. HOLLY WFO COOP 14 90° Day Data for January 1, 2025 through July 11, 2025Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. LAGUARDIA AIRPORT WBAN 13 New York-LGA Area ThreadEx 13 BAITING HOLLOW COOP 11 PORT JERVIS COOP 10 SARATOGA SPRINGS 4 SW COOP 10 POUGHKEEPSIE/HUDSON VALLEY REGIONAL AIRPORT WBAN 10 STONYKILL NEW YORK RAWS 10 Poughkeepsie Area ThreadEx 10 ST. JAMES COOP 10 DANSVILLE MUNICIPAL AIRPORT WBAN 9 JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT WBAN 9 New York-Kennedy Airport Area ThreadEx 9 SARA NEW YORK RAWS 9 VICTOR 2NW COOP 8 LANSING MANOR COOP 8 WEBSTER 2 NE COOP 8 GANG MILLS NEW YORK RAWS 8 SHERBURNE NEW YORK RAWS 8 ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP WBAN 7 HUDSON CORRECTIONAL FACILITY COOP 7 DANSVILLE COOP 7 SYRACUSE HANCOCK INTL AP WBAN 7 WESTCHESTER CO AP WBAN 7 SHIRLEY BROOKHAVEN AIRPORT WBAN 7 Islip Area ThreadEx 7 Syracuse Area ThreadEx 7 FARMINGDALE REPUBLIC AP WBAN 6 NY CITY CENTRAL PARK WBAN 6 SHRUB OAK COOP 6 MONTGOMERY ORANGE COUNTY AP WBAN 6 JFK has more 90 degree days to this point of any summer since 2010 though and still has 50% more 90 degree days than Central Park lol This isn't what I would consider a hot July, it's only slightly warmer than normal. There has been only one truly hot day this month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted July 12, 2025 Share Posted July 12, 2025 1 hour ago, bluewave said: Yeah, the ridge axis was to our west. This is why JFK only has around half as many 90° days as NJ this year so far. The warm spots in NJ may very well top 40 days reaching 90° again this year. While the number to the east of NYC with the sea breeze will be much lower. The ridge axis has been located to the east of New England again this summer. 90° Day Data for January 1, 2025 through July 11, 2025 Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Newark Area ThreadEx 18 OCEAN COUNTY AIRPORT WBAN 18 NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP WBAN 18 TETERBORO AIRPORT COOP 16 HIGHTSTOWN 2 W COOP 16 TETERBORO AIRPORT WBAN 16 CALDWELL ESSEX COUNTY AP WBAN 16 HARRISON COOP 16 PHILADELPHIA/MT. HOLLY WFO COOP 14 90° Day Data for January 1, 2025 through July 11, 2025Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. LAGUARDIA AIRPORT WBAN 13 New York-LGA Area ThreadEx 13 BAITING HOLLOW COOP 11 PORT JERVIS COOP 10 SARATOGA SPRINGS 4 SW COOP 10 POUGHKEEPSIE/HUDSON VALLEY REGIONAL AIRPORT WBAN 10 STONYKILL NEW YORK RAWS 10 Poughkeepsie Area ThreadEx 10 ST. JAMES COOP 10 DANSVILLE MUNICIPAL AIRPORT WBAN 9 JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT WBAN 9 New York-Kennedy Airport Area ThreadEx 9 SARA NEW YORK RAWS 9 VICTOR 2NW COOP 8 LANSING MANOR COOP 8 WEBSTER 2 NE COOP 8 GANG MILLS NEW YORK RAWS 8 SHERBURNE NEW YORK RAWS 8 ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP WBAN 7 HUDSON CORRECTIONAL FACILITY COOP 7 DANSVILLE COOP 7 SYRACUSE HANCOCK INTL AP WBAN 7 WESTCHESTER CO AP WBAN 7 SHIRLEY BROOKHAVEN AIRPORT WBAN 7 Islip Area ThreadEx 7 Syracuse Area ThreadEx 7 FARMINGDALE REPUBLIC AP WBAN 6 NY CITY CENTRAL PARK WBAN 6 SHRUB OAK COOP 6 MONTGOMERY ORANGE COUNTY AP WBAN 6 What causes the ridge axis to be so far to the east? Doesn't that mean the Bermuda High is weaker? You'd think that if the Bermuda High was extremely strong it would extend much farther to the west.... like how strong low pressure systems tend to move further to the west? With reference to tropical season usually when we have really strong Bermuda Highs TCs like the type I described tend to move due west and hit Florida or the Gulf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted July 12, 2025 Share Posted July 12, 2025 The weekend will conclude on a warm note tomorrow. Temperatures will top out mainly the lower and middle 80s through the weekend. Another round of heat could develop early next week with temperatures returning to the upper 80s and perhaps lower 90s. No widespread and sustained excessive or record-challenging heat appears likely through the first three weeks of July. The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was +0.4°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was 0.0°C for the week centered around July 2. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged +0.58°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged +0.03°C. Neutral ENSO conditions will likely continue through the summer. The SOI was +16.68 yesterday. The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) was +0.613 today. Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied 74% probability that New York City will have a warmer than normal July (1991-2020 normal). July will likely finish with a mean temperature near 79.2° (1.7° above normal). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthonymm Posted July 12, 2025 Share Posted July 12, 2025 So I guess lows in the 60s for July for the park are basically a thing of the past. Any bets on if we see a single < 70 F low in the park this month? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravitylover Posted July 12, 2025 Share Posted July 12, 2025 1 hour ago, LibertyBell said: No by world government I mean world unity rather than having each nation doing its own thing. Not dictatorships like Russia or China either. It will happen one day, it will be the next step in human political evolution. Globalists in the context of what you're referring to are corrupt crony capitalists, that's not my idea of a world government. You've been watching too much Star Trek 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted July 12, 2025 Share Posted July 12, 2025 1 minute ago, gravitylover said: You've been watching too much Star Trek I love that show.... one can only dream. I remember the protagonist in one of Stephen Spielberg's movies saying that we'll have world unity only when we find intelligent alien life and then we'll all realize human beings are all part of a single global family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted July 12, 2025 Share Posted July 12, 2025 Back to Miami on Tuesday. My point and click is 90-92 for the high Tue-Fri and I’m sure mid 70s dewpoints. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthonymm Posted July 12, 2025 Share Posted July 12, 2025 9 minutes ago, jm1220 said: Back to Miami on Tuesday. My point and click is 90-92 for the high Tue-Fri and I’m sure mid 70s dewpoints. Our summers are basically miami tier now, except with the highs being about 4-5 degrees cooler on average. The lows are startlingly similar, mid 70s (yuck). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted July 13, 2025 Share Posted July 13, 2025 Highs: PHL: 91 TEB: 89 EWR: 88 TTN: 87 New Brnswck: 87 LGA: 85 NYC: 83 ACY: 83 ISP: 81 BLM: 81 JFK: 80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Star Posted July 13, 2025 Share Posted July 13, 2025 3 hours ago, LibertyBell said: It's definitely a human nature thing not a US vs rest of the world thing. The fossil fuel cartels are large multinational corporations and they hold sway over most of the world's governments -- this is why you see their lobbyists even at UN climate conventions. If you want to see real decisive action against climate change (or against anything else that is a problem in society today), you need to ban corporate lobbyists completely just like we did with big tobacco lobbyists. And corporate lobbying is a global problem that extends far beyond this country. I realized that when I started reading stories coming out of the UK about judges imprisoning peaceful climate change activists, including college professors and climate scientists at the behest of fossil fuel companies. The judges put these scientists and professors in prison even before they went on trial (if there even was a trial) as a way to silence them from protesting. They were released in a few days to a few weeks, kept in prison long enough to try to teach them a lesson not to protest. Are these imprisonments recent? I must have my head in the sand. If we don't all destroy ourselves first, maybe in about 300 years or more the world might start unifying. Though I'm not sure if human nature can evolve. Again, a single culture doesn't seem possible, unless it is some kind of dystopia... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted July 13, 2025 Share Posted July 13, 2025 1 hour ago, anthonymm said: Our summers are basically miami tier now, except with the highs being about 4-5 degrees cooler on average. The lows are startlingly similar, mid 70s (yuck). That's the worst part. High dews and high lows. I'd take mid 90s every day if it meant dews stay in the 50s or below and lows bottomed out in the mid 60s. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycwinter Posted July 13, 2025 Share Posted July 13, 2025 16 minutes ago, Sundog said: That's the worst part. High dews and high lows. I'd take mid 90s every day if it meant dews stay in the 50s or below and lows bottomed out in the mid 60s. you could always move to arizona to get what you want.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncat Posted July 13, 2025 Share Posted July 13, 2025 Onshore flow keeping 90's at bay but still....85/71 split here today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted July 13, 2025 Share Posted July 13, 2025 27 minutes ago, nycwinter said: you could always move to arizona to get what you want.. Arizona where? Up in Flagstaff? Otherwise it's way too hot. Phoenix average high is like 106 in July, too hot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPizz Posted July 13, 2025 Share Posted July 13, 2025 4 hours ago, anthonymm said: So I guess lows in the 60s for July for the park are basically a thing of the past. Any bets on if we see a single < 70 F low in the park this month? Happens in plenty places outside the park, who cares except for the homeless that sleep there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyWx Posted July 13, 2025 Share Posted July 13, 2025 5 hours ago, anthonymm said: Our summers are basically miami tier now, except with the highs being about 4-5 degrees cooler on average. The lows are startlingly similar, mid 70s (yuck). Our summers have always been hazy, hot and humid. That's just typical Jersey and New York climate. Yes I know that it has gotten worse, with dewpoints averaging higher than they used to, but it's not like we were ever arid like the high desert out west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted July 13, 2025 Share Posted July 13, 2025 11 hours ago, LibertyBell said: JFK has more 90 degree days to this point of any summer since 2010 though and still has 50% more 90 degree days than Central Park lol This isn't what I would consider a hot July, it's only slightly warmer than normal. There has been only one truly hot day this month. JFK is much closer to the top of the list on 70° lows with the much higher dewpoints. 70° Low Data for January 1, 2025 through July 12, 2025Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. LAGUARDIA AIRPORT WBAN 21 New York-LGA Area ThreadEx 21 NY CITY CENTRAL PARK WBAN 20 New York-Central Park Area ThreadEx 20 JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT WBAN 17 New York-Kennedy Airport Area ThreadEx 17 FARMINGDALE REPUBLIC AP WBAN 14 ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP WBAN 14 Islip Area ThreadEx 14 70° Low Data for January 1, 2025 through July 12, 2025Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP WBAN 19 Newark Area ThreadEx 19 ATLANTIC CITY MARINA WBAN 18 HARRISON COOP 18 Atlantic City Marina Area ThreadEx 18 TETERBORO AIRPORT WBAN 17 MARGATE COOP 16 ATLANTIC CITY INTL AP WBAN 15 SOUTH JERSEY REGIONAL AIRPORT WBAN 15 Atlantic City Area ThreadEx 15 EB FORSYTHE NEW JERSEY RAWS 15 PENNSAUKEN 1N COOP 15 TETERBORO AIRPORT COOP 15 ESTELL MANOR COOP 14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted July 13, 2025 Share Posted July 13, 2025 7 hours ago, FPizz said: Happens in plenty places outside the park, who cares except for the homeless that sleep there? Everyone's lows are up, it's a result of the higher average dewpoint. So maybe you used to get in the low to mid 60s and now you get in the mid to upper 60s. You just didn't cross the arbitrary threshold of "70" so it looks less dramatic on paper. No one is immune to the higher average lows since rural or urban the higher dewpoints ruin it for all of us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted July 13, 2025 Share Posted July 13, 2025 Meanwhile what is this crap outside? I didn't expect this dreary mess out there today. And of course it's a Sunday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted July 13, 2025 Share Posted July 13, 2025 Sheet drizzle and fog at the beach this morning. So much for the great beach weekend… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwarlock Posted July 13, 2025 Share Posted July 13, 2025 I was planning to go to Asbury for a beach day. Looks drizzling and dark..wtf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwarlock Posted July 13, 2025 Share Posted July 13, 2025 1 minute ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said: Sheet drizzle and fog at the beach this morning. So much for the great beach weekend… How are the Mets continually getting this wrong 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted July 13, 2025 Share Posted July 13, 2025 Just now, winterwarlock said: How are the Mets continually getting this wrong Honestly I think this is just a local issue with the super high dews And water temps being in the mid 70s. Easily reaching 100% humidity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted July 13, 2025 Share Posted July 13, 2025 5 hours ago, JerseyWx said: Our summers have always been hazy, hot and humid. That's just typical Jersey and New York climate. Yes I know that it has gotten worse, with dewpoints averaging higher than they used to, but it's not like we were ever arid like the high desert out west. SMQ has seen a 5° rise in maximum July dew points since the late 90s from 67.5° to 72.5° similar to places like ISP. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted July 13, 2025 Share Posted July 13, 2025 I guess no beach today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted July 13, 2025 Share Posted July 13, 2025 3 minutes ago, psv88 said: I guess no beach today Of course it's Sunday morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted July 13, 2025 Share Posted July 13, 2025 1 hour ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said: Honestly I think this is just a local issue with the super high dews And water temps being in the mid 70s. Easily reaching 100% humidity. These low clouds were well forecast by the HRRR yesterday. I also noticed the low clouds moving in later in the day. Interior spots will slowly clear but it will take longer the further east you go today. HRRR forecast from 18z Saturday showed the low clouds Current HRRR slow clearing from west to east today 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted July 13, 2025 Share Posted July 13, 2025 16 minutes ago, bluewave said: These low clouds were well forecast by the HRRR yesterday. I also noticed the low clouds moving in later in the day. Interior spots will slowly clear but it will take longer the further east you go today. HRRR forecast from 18z Saturday showed the low clouds Current HRRR slow clearing from west to east today Low clouds are fine. There were lots of clouds around yesterday where I am but we still got a beach day in. Today's it's raining on the shore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted July 13, 2025 Share Posted July 13, 2025 79 / 71 and partly cloudy. Warm and humid today mid- upper 80s with the inland sunnier /hot spots seeking 90. More of the same Monday into Tue with more storms and slow moving drenchers for isolated places. Hotter by Tue/Wed with the seasons next heatwave for many, especially inland. Pending on clouds forecasted 850 MB temps push 20c later Wed/Thu and with enough sun could get some stronger heat (95+) into the hot spots. Overall hotter/humid and wetter into the beyond. Seas breeze / onshore for periods but some day or couplets of days where west flow pushes out and on through as ridge centers more inland. 7/13 - 7/14 : Warm / humid rain focus on Mon- Tue 7/15 - 7/18 : Hotter - humid - Strong heat possible with enough sun Wed/Thu 7/19 - beyond : Hot / Humid overall wetter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted July 13, 2025 Share Posted July 13, 2025 10 minutes ago, Sundog said: Low clouds are fine. There were lots of clouds around yesterday where I am but we still got a beach day in. Today's it's raining on the shore. Nuisance drizzle but no relief from the recent dry pattern and having to water the garden to keep it going. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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