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2 hours ago, bluewave said:

We have seen a nice improvement since last fall as it’s tough to keep a really dry pattern going in this much wetter climate. 
 

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The roller coaster precipitation pattern. Either excessive rainfall or complete lack of. As the jet tends toward stagnant configurations. Fits the climate change forecasts and should only intensify.

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14 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

I'm skeptical of upton's 70-90% chance of rain at least through tonight

So, earlier, NWS Mount Holly dropped maps on X showing amounts up to 3" over North Jersey.  I replied with my skepticism, similar to what I did here.  And their account replied to me with the following:

"We have been missing out on better rainfall recently, but chances are looking better for a soaking rain tonight and tomorrow, at least from around I-95 and northwest".

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4 hours ago, bluewave said:

Unfortunately, the Pacific Jet has been too strong during the winter. So as the gradient weakens further into the spring, the weaker jet isn’t able to act as a kicker. So these closed lows get stuck in place when people are ready for sunny spring weather. But the good news is that the northern edge of the drought areas to the north of I-80 and into CT has improved with the soaking rains there in recent days. 
 

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But aren't we supposed to have stronger SE ridges too?  Those generally establish a ring of fire that keeps the storminess to our north and west.

 

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3 hours ago, Picard said:

I remain skeptical of calls for a wetter pattern.  While I agree that there are things that may point to it, often times we see much of the precipitation off to the north and west or hook around and out of the area entirely.  This has been a trend for month after month now.  The latest drought monitor is out, which shows modest improvements in the more severe drought areas for NJ, but much of the more pronounced improvements in the northeast are all over central PA as well as central and western NY State.  

This is to be expected with a strong southeast ridge, usually north and west areas do better with rainfall.

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28 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

This is weird with no hot or even very warm days at all (it hasn't hit 80 at JFK from what I recall.)

 

The strong onshore flow kept the upper 80s heat to our West.

 

 for May 1, 2025 through May 7, 2025
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.
OCEAN COUNTY AIRPORT WBAN 89
Newark Area ThreadEx 88
NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP WBAN 88
HARRISON COOP 88
TETERBORO AIRPORT COOP 87
TETERBORO AIRPORT WBAN 87
ESTELL MANOR COOP 87
SOMERSET AIRPORT WBAN 86
PHILADELPHIA/MT. HOLLY WFO COOP 86
New Brunswick Area ThreadEx 86
HIGHTSTOWN 2 W COOP 86
NEW BRUNSWICK 3 SE COOP 86
CALDWELL ESSEX COUNTY AP WBAN 86
Atlantic City Area ThreadEx 85
PENNSAUKEN 1N COOP 85
MILLVILLE MUNICIPAL AIRPORT WBAN 85
ATLANTIC CITY INTL AP WBAN 85
MOORESTOWN 4 E COOP 85
FREEHOLD-MARLBORO COOP 85
EWING 3 WNW COOP 85
FLEMINGTON 5 NNW COOP 85
SOUTH JERSEY REGIONAL AIRPORT WBAN 85
Trenton Area ThreadEx 84
MARGATE COOP 84
MANASQUAN 1 NW COOP 84
LONG BRANCH-OAKHURST COOP 84
TRENTON-MERCER AIRPORT WBAN 84
SUSSEX AIRPORT WBAN 83
CHARLOTTEBURG RESERVOIR COOP 83
SCHOOLEY'S MOUNTAIN 1 SW COOP 81
BOONTON 1 SE COOP 81
HIGHLAND LAKES 1SW COOP 80

 

Data for May 1, 2025 through May 7, 2025
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.
NJ NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP WBAN 88
NJ HARRISON COOP 88
NY LAGUARDIA AIRPORT WBAN 87
NJ TETERBORO AIRPORT WBAN 87
NJ TETERBORO AIRPORT COOP 87
NJ CALDWELL ESSEX COUNTY AP WBAN 86
NY NY CITY CENTRAL PARK WBAN 85
NJ CHARLOTTEBURG RESERVOIR COOP 83
NY SHRUB OAK COOP 83
NY WESTCHESTER CO AP WBAN 83
NY PORT JERVIS COOP 82
NY MONTGOMERY ORANGE COUNTY AP WBAN 82
CT DANBURY MUNICIPAL AP WBAN 82
NY CENTERPORT COOP 82
NY PORT AUTH DOWNTN MANHATTAN WALL ST HEL ICAO 81
NY BAITING HOLLOW COOP 81
CT MERIDEN MARKHAM MUNICIPAL AP WBAN 81
CT OXFORD WATERBURY WBAN 79
NY SYOSSET COOP 79
CT NORWICH PUBLIC UTILITY PLANT COOP 79
NY RIVERHEAD RESEARCH FARM COOP 78
NY JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT WBAN 77
NY ST. JAMES COOP 76
NY ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP WBAN 76
NY FARMINGDALE REPUBLIC AP WBAN 75
NY SHIRLEY BROOKHAVEN AIRPORT WBAN 75
NY UPTON COOP - NWSFO NEW YORK COOP 75
CT NEW HAVEN TWEED AP WBAN 74
CT IGOR I SIKORSKY MEMORIAL AIRPORT WBAN 73
CT GUILFORD COOP 73
NY ORIENT POINT STATE PARK COOP 72
NY BRIDGEHAMPTON COOP 71
CT DANBURY COOP 70
NY WESTHAMPTON GABRESKI AP WBAN 70
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57 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

But aren't we supposed to have stronger SE ridges too?  Those generally establish a ring of fire that keeps the storminess to our north and west.

 

Yeah, the Southeast Ridge or WAR has been very strong this month. So the heaviest rains were pushed up further north than the I-78 to I-80 corridor. Looks like a repeat performance for the next few days.

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6 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Yeah, the Southeast Ridge or WAR has been very strong this month. So the heaviest rains were pushed up further north than the I-78 to I-80 corridor. Looks like a repeat performance for the next few days.

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I remember this was the case in summer 1995, it's why the Mississippi River valley was so wet with the ring of fire surrounding us, August 1995 was historically dry because of it.

 

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32 minutes ago, bluewave said:

The strong onshore flow kept the upper 80s heat to our West.

 

 for May 1, 2025 through May 7, 2025
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OCEAN COUNTY AIRPORT WBAN 89
Newark Area ThreadEx 88
NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP WBAN 88
HARRISON COOP 88
TETERBORO AIRPORT COOP 87
TETERBORO AIRPORT WBAN 87
ESTELL MANOR COOP 87
SOMERSET AIRPORT WBAN 86
PHILADELPHIA/MT. HOLLY WFO COOP 86
New Brunswick Area ThreadEx 86
HIGHTSTOWN 2 W COOP 86
NEW BRUNSWICK 3 SE COOP 86
CALDWELL ESSEX COUNTY AP WBAN 86
Atlantic City Area ThreadEx 85
PENNSAUKEN 1N COOP 85
MILLVILLE MUNICIPAL AIRPORT WBAN 85
ATLANTIC CITY INTL AP WBAN 85
MOORESTOWN 4 E COOP 85
FREEHOLD-MARLBORO COOP 85
EWING 3 WNW COOP 85
FLEMINGTON 5 NNW COOP 85
SOUTH JERSEY REGIONAL AIRPORT WBAN 85
Trenton Area ThreadEx 84
MARGATE COOP 84
MANASQUAN 1 NW COOP 84
LONG BRANCH-OAKHURST COOP 84
TRENTON-MERCER AIRPORT WBAN 84
SUSSEX AIRPORT WBAN 83
CHARLOTTEBURG RESERVOIR COOP 83
SCHOOLEY'S MOUNTAIN 1 SW COOP 81
BOONTON 1 SE COOP 81
HIGHLAND LAKES 1SW COOP 80

 

Data for May 1, 2025 through May 7, 2025
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NJ NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP WBAN 88
NJ HARRISON COOP 88
NY LAGUARDIA AIRPORT WBAN 87
NJ TETERBORO AIRPORT WBAN 87
NJ TETERBORO AIRPORT COOP 87
NJ CALDWELL ESSEX COUNTY AP WBAN 86
NY NY CITY CENTRAL PARK WBAN 85
NJ CHARLOTTEBURG RESERVOIR COOP 83
NY SHRUB OAK COOP 83
NY WESTCHESTER CO AP WBAN 83
NY PORT JERVIS COOP 82
NY MONTGOMERY ORANGE COUNTY AP WBAN 82
CT DANBURY MUNICIPAL AP WBAN 82
NY CENTERPORT COOP 82
NY PORT AUTH DOWNTN MANHATTAN WALL ST HEL ICAO 81
NY BAITING HOLLOW COOP 81
CT MERIDEN MARKHAM MUNICIPAL AP WBAN 81
CT OXFORD WATERBURY WBAN 79
NY SYOSSET COOP 79
CT NORWICH PUBLIC UTILITY PLANT COOP 79
NY RIVERHEAD RESEARCH FARM COOP 78
NY JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT WBAN 77
NY ST. JAMES COOP 76
NY ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP WBAN 76
NY FARMINGDALE REPUBLIC AP WBAN 75
NY SHIRLEY BROOKHAVEN AIRPORT WBAN 75
NY UPTON COOP - NWSFO NEW YORK COOP 75
CT NEW HAVEN TWEED AP WBAN 74
CT IGOR I SIKORSKY MEMORIAL AIRPORT WBAN 73
CT GUILFORD COOP 73
NY ORIENT POINT STATE PARK COOP 72
NY BRIDGEHAMPTON COOP 71
CT DANBURY COOP 70
NY WESTHAMPTON GABRESKI AP WBAN 70

wow Ocean County Airport-89- is that Toms River?

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Wantage NJ 8 s High Point.  0.41" 125P-2P in my stratus (0.45 on my AWN). So the .41 matches the OHP,THP,STP seen at 220PM this afternoon off DIX.  

 

No thread at this time...  if NWS drops a watch on I84 I lmght add a thread...that seems where iso 4" reports should occur between today-12z Sat. Unlikely thread at this time. 

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Special Weather Statement National Weather Service New York NY 305 PM EDT Thu May 8 2025 NYZ067-081930- Orange NY- 305 PM EDT Thu May 8 2025 ...A STRONG THUNDERSTORM WILL IMPACT NORTHEASTERN ORANGE COUNTY THROUGH 330 PM EDT... At 303 PM EDT, trained weather spotters reported a strong thunderstorm producing pea size hail near New Windsor, or near Newburgh, moving northeast at 10 mph. HAZARD...Winds in excess of 30 mph and pea size hail. SOURCE...Trained weather spotters. IMPACT...Gusty winds could knock down tree limbs and blow around unsecured objects. Minor hail damage to outdoor objects is possible. Locations impacted include... Newburgh, New Windsor, Gardnertown, Orange Lake, Washingtonville, Firthcliffe, Vails Gate, Balmville, and Cornwall On Hudson.

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