SACRUS Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 79 / 72 clouds left over from overnight storms, slowly clearing. Should continue to the heat for most places before the front comes through later today (front to CPA) so about 4 - 6 hours of sunshine / heating. Some lingering storms Thu (eastern/coastal areas) otherwise a break in the heat lasting through Sat (7/20). Strong heat limited but upper 80s / near to low 90s from Sun (7/21) as the Atltantic ridge keeps the EC in the ridge. Perhaps some stronger heat the MW trough lifts out later next week and weekend. 7/17 : Hot /humid (evening storms front) 7/18 - 7/20 : break in heat . humiditity 7/21 - beyond : Overall warm to humid - more frequent storm chances with southerly tropical flow by the 24th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 3 hours ago, bluewave said: Dropped to 78° right before midnight. TEMPERATURE (F) YESTERDAY MAXIMUM 99 359 PM 101 1988 87 12 80 MINIMUM 78 1152 PM 57 1946 70 8 76 AVERAGE 89 78 11 78 close but no sweat-gar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bluewave Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 The very wet vegetation at the park limited the high to only 94° yesterday. So we may not see another 100° in Central Park unless a place like Newark makes it to 105°. Since on the very hot days NYC runs about 5° cooler. Data for July 16, 2024 through July 16, 2024Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. NJ TETERBORO AIRPORT WBAN 101 NJ NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP WBAN 99 NJ CALDWELL ESSEX COUNTY AP WBAN 99 NJ HARRISON COOP 98 NY LAGUARDIA AIRPORT WBAN 97 NY MONTGOMERY ORANGE COUNTY AP WBAN 95 NY PORT JERVIS COOP 94 NY NY CITY CENTRAL PARK WBAN 94 Corona…..97° Fresh kills….100° Astoria 97° Hillsborough-Duke 100° Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 7 minutes ago, bluewave said: The very wet vegetation at the park limited the high to only 94° yesterday. So we may not see another 100° in Central Park unless a place like Newark makes it to 105°. Since on the very hot days NYC runs about 5° cooler. Data for July 16, 2024 through July 16, 2024Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. NJ TETERBORO AIRPORT WBAN 101 NJ NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP WBAN 99 NJ CALDWELL ESSEX COUNTY AP WBAN 99 NJ HARRISON COOP 98 NY LAGUARDIA AIRPORT WBAN 97 NY MONTGOMERY ORANGE COUNTY AP WBAN 95 NY PORT JERVIS COOP 94 NY NY CITY CENTRAL PARK WBAN 94 Corona…..97° Fresh kills….100° Astoria 97° Hillsborough-Duke 100° Wow! Look at this photo I found on Wikimedia dated May 24, 2024. This is absolutely absurd. Who was the decisionmaker that identified this as an appropriate location to install the ASOS? It doesn't comply with any siting standards. Most backyard thermometers are more reliably sited than this. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted July 17, 2024 Author Share Posted July 17, 2024 7pm. Storms but no solid line. Some may see little or nothing while others get rocked 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poker2015 Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 Wasn't home to see it, but our pergola was ripped right out of the concrete on the patio and thrown on the lawn. Glass everywhere from the lights we had hanging from it. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uofmiami Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 16 minutes ago, bluewave said: The very wet vegetation at the park limited the high to only 94° yesterday. So we may not see another 100° in Central Park unless a place like Newark makes it to 105°. Since on the very hot days NYC runs about 5° cooler. Data for July 16, 2024 through July 16, 2024Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. NJ TETERBORO AIRPORT WBAN 101 NJ NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP WBAN 99 NJ CALDWELL ESSEX COUNTY AP WBAN 99 NJ HARRISON COOP 98 NY LAGUARDIA AIRPORT WBAN 97 NY MONTGOMERY ORANGE COUNTY AP WBAN 95 NY PORT JERVIS COOP 94 NY NY CITY CENTRAL PARK WBAN 94 Corona…..97° Fresh kills….100° Astoria 97° Hillsborough-Duke 100° What about Manhattan micro sites from Con Ed? They 97+ or close to NYC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 3 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said: Wow! Look at this photo I found on Wikimedia dated May 24, 2024. This is absolutely absurd. Who was the decisionmaker that identified this as an appropriate location to install the ASOS? It doesn't comply with any siting standards. Most backyard thermometers are more reliably sited than this. Imagine spending all this taxpayer money to install an ASOS in Central Park solely for the purpose of "continuity" and placing it in the location least representative of New York City that you can find, so that there is no reliable continuity in the records. Had to be deliberate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 1 minute ago, TheClimateChanger said: Imagine spending all this taxpayer money to install an ASOS in Central Park solely for the purpose of "continuity" and placing it in the location least representative of New York City that you can find. Had to be deliberate. yeah it's crazy. doesnt look like it will change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfa Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 83 and overcast here, yesterday at this time it was already 95 (with sun). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANDA Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 40 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said: Wow! Look at this photo I found on Wikimedia dated May 24, 2024. This is absolutely absurd. Who was the decisionmaker that identified this as an appropriate location to install the ASOS? It doesn't comply with any siting standards. Most backyard thermometers are more reliably sited than this. Look at the rain gauge in the back right. You have to believe the tree canopy is interfering with that as well. What a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANDA Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 Well, we are halfway through meteorological Summer. Won't be long before we are playing kick the "Canadian cold" can. Hope not but we'll see. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 83 / 72 clouds clearing looks like 2-4 hours of sunshine before clouds arrives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 This should be the last of the 100° heat for a while as a big +PNA is set to dominate for the next 10 days. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 26 minutes ago, MANDA said: Well, we are halfway through meteorological Summer. Won't be long before we are playing kick the "Canadian cold" can. Hope not but we'll see. "the big pattern is just 10 days away" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANDA Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 8 minutes ago, bluewave said: This should be the last of the 100° heat for a while as a big +PNA is set to dominate for the next 10 days. Trof position might be such that we still run above normal and on the humid side. Might also give us AN precip. Nice in the nations mid-section though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPizz Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 1 hour ago, TheClimateChanger said: Wow! Look at this photo I found on Wikimedia dated May 24, 2024. This is absolutely absurd. Who was the decisionmaker that identified this as an appropriate location to install the ASOS? It doesn't comply with any siting standards. Most backyard thermometers are more reliably sited than this. For every NYC station there are 5 rooftop/tarmac stations that are just as useful 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 47 minutes ago, FPizz said: For every NYC station there are 5 rooftop/tarmac stations that are just as useful But all of those sites measure the actual temperatures in their respective locations. The NYC station used to be away from the trees in Central Park and was 3 to 5° warmer than now before the ASOS installation under the trees in 1995. So the actual Central Park high temperature yesterday in an open space like the Great Lawn was 98° or 99°. RECORD EVENT REPORT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK, NY 0216 AM EDT WED JUL 17 2024 ...RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE SET AT LAGUARDIA NY... A RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 97 DEGREES WAS SET AT LAGUARDIA NY YESTERDAY. THIS TIES THE OLD RECORD OF 97 DEGREES SET IN 1980. RECORDS GO BACK TO THE YEAR 1939 AT THIS CLIMATE STATION. Data for July 16, 1980 through July 16, 1980Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. NY NEW YORK LAUREL HILL COOP 101 NY NY CITY CENTRAL PARK WBAN 99 NY DOBBS FERRY-ARDSLEY COOP 99 NJ PLAINFIELD COOP 98 NJ CRANFORD COOP 98 NY NY WESTERLEIGH STAT IS COOP 97 NY LAGUARDIA AIRPORT WBAN 97 https://www.nytimes.com/1977/07/22/archives/vandals-in-central-park-forcing-weather-service-to-seek-new-site.html July 22, 1977 When the devices at the castle are not functioning, the Weather Service substitutes readings from La Guardia Airport. But Mr. Gibson said those readings do not really reflect conditions in the city, because they may be several degrees cooler in summer or warmer in winter than those in Central Park. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 88 / 71 here - sunny and heating up quickly WInd: 234° (SW) EWR: 86 LGA: 85 NYC: 86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 1 hour ago, MANDA said: Trof position might be such that we still run above normal and on the humid side. Might also give us AN precip. Nice in the nations mid-section though! It looks like the pattern will begin to weaken the drought over the Southeast. So maybe the next warm up after this relaxation of major heat will be slightly less intense. We’ll see if wetter conditions over the source region for this recent heatwave can make a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwx21 Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 Latest HRRR hits us hard here around 8pm. Hoping to see a good storm tonight! I'm also looking forward to the nice break in the humidity. Dew points in 50s on Friday will feel great. That looks like one of the nicest days of the summer. Dew points will go up a little over the weekend, but I don't think they'll get back to the 70s until Tuesday. A nice break from the high humidity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 2 minutes ago, bluewave said: It looks like the pattern will begin to weaken the drought over the Southeast. So maybe the next warm up after this relaxation of major heat will be slightly less intense. We’ll see if wetter conditions over the source region for this recent heatwave can make a difference. GFS more prominent in building the Atlantic ridge in 7/24 - 26 with 500 MB height >594DM. That should setup some stronger humidity / heat potential. Looks overall warm-hot and humid with more frequent rain chances. Some of that heat building in the southwest may come east in spurts beyond the end of next week / 29th. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee59 Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 My highs on the 14th 91.3, the 15th 89.5 and the 16th 93.4. That is my first official heatwave of the season if you round up the 89.5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve392 Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 NWS Upton issued severe thunderstorm watch for my area til 8pm. Some storms firing off over NEPA moving ene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 91/73 heating up quickly EWR: 88 (SE wind) NYC: 89 LGA: 88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uofmiami Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 2 hours ago, FPizz said: For every NYC station there are 5 rooftop/tarmac stations that are just as useful Manhattan microsites back up Central Park temp since winds were out of S mostly yesterday. Need that due W wind for the heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooralph Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 Forgive me if this was shared previously; relevant to the CPK discussion and the summer in general. Very localized heat island map. I was gratified to find I live by that “cooler” tongue on the UWS; I suspect the streets (esp the wide ones : 106 and 110) providing more of a channel for upsloping winds. https://www.thecity.nyc/2023/07/26/heat-island-hot-map-temperature/ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravity Wave Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 3 minutes ago, hooralph said: Forgive me if this was shared previously; relevant to the CPK discussion and the summer in general. Very localized heat island map. I was gratified to find I live by that “cooler” tongue on the UWS; I suspect the streets (esp the wide ones : 106 and 110) providing more of a channel for upsloping winds. https://www.thecity.nyc/2023/07/26/heat-island-hot-map-temperature/ I assume that these departures are specific to the summer given how the sun roasts everything? It would be interesting to see the winter version. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPizz Posted July 17, 2024 Share Posted July 17, 2024 2 minutes ago, uofmiami said: Manhattan microsites back up Central Park temp since winds were out of S mostly yesterday. Need that due W wind for the heat. Why though? I mean I get that wind direction matters as it does everywhere, but why doesn't the tree canopy that everyone bitches about every single day here care about west winds? Does it blow the canopy open all of sudden? The canopy should effect the site no matter what, but on west wind days NYC is sometimes the highest temp. Maybe the tree canopy is overstated and it is really more about the winds. I have noticed that some of the personal sites near NYC often match the temp, and I'm sure those aren't under trees, but that fact often gets ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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