mahantango#1 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Lost in a thick fog this morning 31 degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 43 minutes ago, Blizzard of 93 said: MDT recorded 1.0 of snow yesterday. This brings the seasonal total to 1.1 inches of snow. The normal average snow through yesterday is 4.7 inches, so MDT is only currently 3.6 below normal snow. So 23% of normal snowfall. Maintaining that pace for the rest of winter would put MDT at 6.8”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, TimB84 said: So 23% of normal snowfall. Maintaining that pace for the rest of winter would put MDT at 6.8”. Seems about right to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Is it too much to ask that garbage like this doesn’t show up during a week when it was supposed to be cold just 48 hours ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, TimB84 said: Is it too much to ask that garbage like this doesn’t show up during a week when it was supposed to be cold just 48 hours ago? I hope not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mount Joy Snowman Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 32/31 here with dense fog. Visibilities well under 1/4 mile at my locale. CTP's SWS talks about this.... ...AREAS OF FREEZING FOG THROUGH MID MORNING... Areas of fog have developed across portions of central Pennsylvania this morning, most notably across the Susquehanna Valley. Temperatures largely in the low to mid 30s have led to some instances of freezing fog. Motorists should allow extra time to reach their destination this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted December 28, 2021 Author Share Posted December 28, 2021 21 minutes ago, TimB84 said: Is it too much to ask that garbage like this doesn’t show up during a week when it was supposed to be cold just 48 hours ago? It's like the models are us, trying to hope away the SER, and the results are reality. Though the above is not results yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Bubbler86 said: It's like the models are us, trying to hope away the SER, and the results are reality. Though the above is not results yet. True. Just a knee-jerk reaction from someone who’s frustrated that we just went through a winter only two years ago that produced similar results under a completely different base state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 minute ago, TimB84 said: True. Just a knee-jerk reaction from someone who’s frustrated that we just went through a winter only two years ago that produced similar results under a completely different base state. Maybe Climate Control 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Blizzard of 93 said: MDT recorded 1.0 of snow yesterday. This brings the seasonal total to 1.1 inches of snow. The normal average snow through yesterday is 4.7 inches, so MDT is only currently 3.6 below normal snow. Oh my word. Normal to date is less than 5 inches? I love the LSV, but this was one reason I left: needed more winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted December 28, 2021 Author Share Posted December 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, TugHillMatt said: Oh my word. Normal to date is less than 5 inches? I love the LSV, but this was one reason I left: needed more winter. But we are only 3.6" below normal! :-) We fail less than others. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mount Joy Snowman Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 10 hours ago, CarlislePaWx said: @Cashtown_Coop, or @MAG5035, or to anyone else who melts down their snowfall to obtain a liquid equivalent: I just went outside and brought in my clear-vue gauge to melt down today's 1.9" of snowfall. I was pretty surprised at what I saw. I received 0.40" of liquid from 1.9" of snow which equates to a ratio of just 4.75 : 1 !! Typically you only see these low ratios with a lot of sleet. I know my snow this morning was wet but I didn't think it was THAT wet. I am very anxious to see what others near my area got for their liquid equivalent and ratio. Thanks in advance. PS>>>My temp is now down to 32.2 degrees. Oh so tantalizingly close for a bit of freezing rain. I'll do you one better, I recorded .3" snow off of .19" liquid for a SLR of just 1.58 haha. This is almost assuredly the lowest ratio I have ever recorded for what I believe to be an all-snow event. The reason for me is pretty straight forward though, simply that my temp didn't drop below 35 for the duration of the event so the snow had a hard time accumulating. Didn't get the rates needed to overcome a marginal boundary layer. Still pretty amazing to see a ratio that low though. I guess it makes sense in that the people just to my east saw a trace to nothing and the people just to my west got over an inch, so this was the transition zone to paltry totals. Also, just to back up your measurement, someone on Cocorahs who resides near Carlisle reported 1.8" of snow off of .32" liquid, so in the same ballpark as you. Weird little event we had on our hands. This fog just won't quit down here in the valleys today. At peak I was under 1/8 mile visibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 16 minutes ago, Mount Joy Snowman said: I'll do you one better, I recorded .3" snow off of .19" liquid for a SLR of just 1.58 haha. This is almost assuredly the lowest ratio I have ever recorded for what I believe to be an all-snow event. The reason for me is pretty straight forward though, simply that my temp didn't drop below 35 for the duration of the event so the snow had a hard time accumulating. Didn't get the rates needed to overcome a marginal boundary layer. Still pretty amazing to see a ratio that low though. I guess it makes sense in that the people just to my east saw a trace to nothing and the people just to my west got over an inch, so this was the transition zone to paltry totals. Also, just to back up your measurement, someone on Cocorahs who resides near Carlisle reported 1.8" of snow off of .32" liquid, so in the same ballpark as you. Weird little event we had on our hands. This fog just won't quit down here in the valleys today. At peak I was under 1/8 mile visibility. Not too bad here. Sun was out for a few minutes earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 I did record .11" of rain last evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Another 12z damper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlislePaWx Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 34 minutes ago, Mount Joy Snowman said: I'll do you one better, I recorded .3" snow off of .19" liquid for a SLR of just 1.58 haha. This is almost assuredly the lowest ratio I have ever recorded for what I believe to be an all-snow event. The reason for me is pretty straight forward though, simply that my temp didn't drop below 35 for the duration of the event so the snow had a hard time accumulating. Didn't get the rates needed to overcome a marginal boundary layer. Still pretty amazing to see a ratio that low though. I guess it makes sense in that the people just to my east saw a trace to nothing and the people just to my west got over an inch, so this was the transition zone to paltry totals. Also, just to back up your measurement, someone on Cocorahs who resides near Carlisle reported 1.8" of snow off of .32" liquid, so in the same ballpark as you. Weird little event we had on our hands. This fog just won't quit down here in the valleys today. At peak I was under 1/8 mile visibility. Thanks you for this info. It is nice to have supporting obs! Your ratio is crazy...yet makes sense. I had 99.9% snow for the event yesterday. Just a very little bit of sleet just before it stopped completely. Temp was 31.1 an hour ago with a fair amount of fog, but not as dense as you reported. It's lifting now and the temp is up to 32.7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cashtown_Coop Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, CarlislePaWx said: Thanks you for this info. It is nice to have supporting obs! Your ratio is crazy...yet makes sense. I had 99.9% snow for the event yesterday. Just a very little bit of sleet just before it stopped completely. Temp was 31.1 an hour ago with a fair amount of fog, but not as dense as you reported. It's lifting now and the temp is up to 32.7. For me I had .30” precip and 1.3” snow at Cashtown site. 5.5 miles south from a cocarahs gauge at work I had .38” precip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mount Joy Snowman Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 46 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said: Not too bad here. Sun was out for a few minutes earlier. I'm still under fog here but visibilities finally climbing towards 1/2 mile. Not a hint of sun thus far. 49 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said: I did record .11" of rain last evening. Hmmmmmm was there an overnight shower or something that perhaps I was unaware of and could be skewing my SLR ratio? Remember I use a manual cylinder gauge, not an automated one, so I can't always verify timing of precip without looking at other sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj3 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 pretty significant change for Jan 2/3 on the gfs. Much flatter look with the first wave although still results in just a colder rain. Maybe that period isn't quite dead yet for tracking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, dj3 said: pretty significant change for Jan 2/3 on the gfs. Much flatter look with the first wave although still results in just a colder rain. Maybe that period isn't quite dead yet for tracking? don't know kind of torn about it right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, paweather said: don't know kind of torn about it right now. About the Jan 2/3 period or about this hobby in general? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, paweather said: don't know kind of torn about it right now. Are you lying naked in the floor? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, TimB84 said: About the Jan 2/3 period or about this hobby in general? About the 2nd/3rd I'll always keep this frustrating hobby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 minute ago, canderson said: Are you lying naked in the floor? Yep LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, paweather said: About the 2nd/3rd I'll always keep this frustrating hobby! That is good to hear. Personally, I’m considering going to a hypnotist to make me forget I ever cared about weather. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherman Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Are you lying naked in the floor?HAHAHAHAHA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 minute ago, TimB84 said: That is good to hear. Personally, I’m considering going to a hypnotist to make me forget I ever cared about weather. I thought about that as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Talk about a shit pattern: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlislePaWx Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Cashtown_Coop said: For me I had .30” precip and 1.3” snow at Cashtown site. 5.5 miles south from a cocarahs gauge at work I had .38” precip. That's great! Total confirmation. Thanks! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 minute ago, paweather said: Talk about a shit pattern: TT loads faster than Pivotal. I’m not up to that miserable part yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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