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16 minutes ago, Hoosier said:

This is a good headline to scare people.  But in the story, it says no causal link has been established.

Israel Examines Heart Inflammation Cases After Pfizer Shot

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/israel-examines-heart-inflammation-cases-after-pfizer-covid-shot/ar-BB1g46pq

For a fringe group that is largely dismissed by the vast majority of society (and whose positions mostly aren’t based in fact), the anti-vax movement sure seems to be able to control the narrative when they want to. I imagine people with little to no medical knowledge are scouring these databases of side effects that may or may not have been vaccine-related and pressuring officials to investigate. It’s ridiculous.

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19 minutes ago, TimB84 said:

For a fringe group that is largely dismissed by the vast majority of society (and whose positions mostly aren’t based in fact), the anti-vax movement sure seems to be able to control the narrative when they want to. I imagine people with little to no medical knowledge are scouring these databases of side effects that may or may not have been vaccine-related and pressuring officials to investigate. It’s ridiculous.

There's no "fringe groups controlling the narrative", there's media using inflammatory language to get clicks and engagement. 

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I thought this was a good and balanced take on the transition from the first phase of vaccination where there was a pent up demand and a supply scarcity to the current phase where supply had caught up and it's about outreach to those on the fence and those that aren't highly motivated.  Efforts should be on making it as painless as possible to get vaccinated,  public education about the facts with transparency about the risks and benefits, and reasonable incentives for example Hawaii is launching its vaccine exemption to avoid quarantine for interisland travel and hopefully will do the same for transpacific travel not to long afterwards. It sounds like the CDC is going to be providing more and more guidance that being vaccinated makes a lot more fun things safe. 

I'm still very optimistic about the way ahead,  of course it would have been nice to keep the numbers averaging over 3 million per day vaccinated for a little longer but we knew that wasn't going to happen based on the large chunk of people that have decided against vaccines for their variety of reasons. I think most of their reasons are misguided but it's their life and their free will, as a provider I'll be happy to discuss this with my patients and provide facts to help then make their own decision.

 

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Got shot #1 about four hours ago. It was the most pain-free needling I've every received. My arm's starting to get sore now... otherwise I would be worried about whether the nurse actually gave me the shot. I swear on my life it was so quick and painless that I was genuinely shocked when she said I was done, and coming from me, that means something as I've passed out several times during blood drawings/allergy tests. 

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34 minutes ago, mattb65 said:

:facepalm:

A private school in Miami, citing false claims, bars vaccinated teachers from contact with students.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/26/us/florida-centner-academy-vaccine.html

Unreal. I know it’s a private school, but surely since children’s lives are at stake, there has to be some way to shut it down. If I worked there, not sure if I’d just get the vaccine and not tell them or go ahead and tell them and let them fire me and collect unemployment off of them.

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Here is the CDC data on percentage of people who have received at least 1 dose of vaccine.  There is an obvious common link between the 10 worst states.  Some of them have double trouble in being very Republican and also having a relatively large % of African American residents, which are 2 groups that tend to be more vaccine hesitant.

 

42. West Virginia 
Number of people vaccinated with at least one dose: 632,161 
Percentage of population vaccinated with at least one dose: 35.27 

43. Indiana 
Number of people vaccinated with at least one dose: 2,351,172 
Percentage of population vaccinated with at least one dose: 34.92 

44. Arkansas 
Number of people vaccinated with at least one dose: 1,051,126 
Percentage of population vaccinated with at least one dose: 34.83 

45. Georgia 
Number of people vaccinated with at least one dose: 3,594,066 
Percentage of population vaccinated with at least one dose: 33.85 

46. Tennessee 
Number of people vaccinated with at least one dose: 2,286,642 
Percentage of population vaccinated with at least one dose: 33.48 

47. Idaho 
Number of people vaccinated with at least one dose: 595,128 
Percentage of population vaccinated with at least one dose: 33.3 

48. Wyoming 
Number of people vaccinated with at least one dose: 192,439 
Percentage of population vaccinated with at least one dose: 33.25 

49. Louisiana 
Number of people vaccinated with at least one dose: 1,479,847 
Percentage of population vaccinated with at least one dose: 31.83 

50. Alabama 
Number of people vaccinated with at least one dose: 1,546,659 
Percentage of population vaccinated with at least one dose: 31.54 

51. Mississippi 
Number of people vaccinated with at least one dose: 898,809 
Percentage of population vaccinated with at least one dose: 30.2

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14 minutes ago, Hoosier said:

Here is the CDC data on percentage of people who have received at least 1 dose of vaccine.  There is an obvious common link between the 10 worst states.  Some of them have double trouble in being very Republican and also having a relatively large % of African American residents, which are 2 groups that tend to be more vaccine hesitant.

 

42. West Virginia 
Number of people vaccinated with at least one dose: 632,161 
Percentage of population vaccinated with at least one dose: 35.27 

43. Indiana 
Number of people vaccinated with at least one dose: 2,351,172 
Percentage of population vaccinated with at least one dose: 34.92 

44. Arkansas 
Number of people vaccinated with at least one dose: 1,051,126 
Percentage of population vaccinated with at least one dose: 34.83 

45. Georgia 
Number of people vaccinated with at least one dose: 3,594,066 
Percentage of population vaccinated with at least one dose: 33.85 

46. Tennessee 
Number of people vaccinated with at least one dose: 2,286,642 
Percentage of population vaccinated with at least one dose: 33.48 

47. Idaho 
Number of people vaccinated with at least one dose: 595,128 
Percentage of population vaccinated with at least one dose: 33.3 

48. Wyoming 
Number of people vaccinated with at least one dose: 192,439 
Percentage of population vaccinated with at least one dose: 33.25 

49. Louisiana 
Number of people vaccinated with at least one dose: 1,479,847 
Percentage of population vaccinated with at least one dose: 31.83 

50. Alabama 
Number of people vaccinated with at least one dose: 1,546,659 
Percentage of population vaccinated with at least one dose: 31.54 

51. Mississippi 
Number of people vaccinated with at least one dose: 898,809 
Percentage of population vaccinated with at least one dose: 30.2

How’re those states doing with Covid numbers right now 

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3 hours ago, schoeppeya said:

How’re those states doing with Covid numbers right now 

This is hard to measure,  if you look at covidactnow.org you can sort by daily cases per 100k or current infection Rt. Louisiana and Alabama have among the top 5 Rt but their current daily cases per 100k is in the bottom 10 in states. Hard to declare winners and losers

 

I don't think there's been enough time to show a negative correlation between vaccination rates and infection rates between different states. Maybe check back in 6 months to see if there's been a difference between cases per capita and deaths per capita between high vaccine and low vaccine states. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Hoosier said:

Here is the CDC data on percentage of people who have received at least 1 dose of vaccine.  There is an obvious common link between the 10 worst states.  Some of them have double trouble in being very Republican and also having a relatively large % of African American residents, which are 2 groups that tend to be more vaccine hesitant.

 

42. West Virginia 
Number of people vaccinated with at least one dose: 632,161 
Percentage of population vaccinated with at least one dose: 35.27 

43. Indiana 
Number of people vaccinated with at least one dose: 2,351,172 
Percentage of population vaccinated with at least one dose: 34.92 

44. Arkansas 
Number of people vaccinated with at least one dose: 1,051,126 
Percentage of population vaccinated with at least one dose: 34.83 

45. Georgia 
Number of people vaccinated with at least one dose: 3,594,066 
Percentage of population vaccinated with at least one dose: 33.85 

46. Tennessee 
Number of people vaccinated with at least one dose: 2,286,642 
Percentage of population vaccinated with at least one dose: 33.48 

47. Idaho 
Number of people vaccinated with at least one dose: 595,128 
Percentage of population vaccinated with at least one dose: 33.3 

48. Wyoming 
Number of people vaccinated with at least one dose: 192,439 
Percentage of population vaccinated with at least one dose: 33.25 

49. Louisiana 
Number of people vaccinated with at least one dose: 1,479,847 
Percentage of population vaccinated with at least one dose: 31.83 

50. Alabama 
Number of people vaccinated with at least one dose: 1,546,659 
Percentage of population vaccinated with at least one dose: 31.54 

51. Mississippi 
Number of people vaccinated with at least one dose: 898,809 
Percentage of population vaccinated with at least one dose: 30.2

Interesting that you have a northern state like Indiana in the bottom 10. But i've always heard that Indiana is the most southern northern state. However, I don't believe Indiana has a very large black population.

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53 minutes ago, Snownado said:

Interesting that you have a northern state like Indiana in the bottom 10. But i've always heard that Indiana is the most southern northern state. However, I don't believe Indiana has a very large black population.

We don't.  Indiana is around 10% black.  The national number is 13%.  Some of those southern states are 25-30%+ black.

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33 minutes ago, Hoosier said:

We don't.  Indiana is around 10% black.  The national number is 13%.  Some of those southern states are 25-30%+ black.

But Wyoming, Idaho, and West Virginia, which are almost entirely white, are also on that list. The commonality isn’t entirely racial demographics.

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42 minutes ago, TimB84 said:

But Wyoming, Idaho, and West Virginia, which are almost entirely white, are also on that list. The commonality isn’t entirely racial demographics.

I never said it was.  Political affiliation seems like the bigger factor than race when it comes to vaccine resistance.  

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8 hours ago, StormfanaticInd said:

Whats crazy is operation warp speed was Trump's idea. So why are so many Republicans antivax???:facepalm:

So much I could say here, and I had a response typed up about people caring about certain things when it’s convenient for them, but I seem to recall that being a big component of the War of 4/13.

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Whats crazy is operation warp speed was Trump's idea. So why are so many Republicans antivax???:facepalm:

LOL? My first run in with an antivax person was a very liberal Democrat. A lot of Hollywood run in the antivax circle as well.


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