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I always say "if it ain't gonna snow in the winter it might as well be 60." SBN at 62 right now. I opened the back door to my apartment. Feels great! 

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9 minutes ago, sbnwx85 said:

I always say "if it ain't gonna snow in the winter it might as well be 60." SBN at 62 right now. I opened the back door to my apartment. Feels great! 

Tack on another degree for the record books

RECORD EVENT REPORT 
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NORTHERN INDIANA
0421 PM EST THU DEC 26 2019

...RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE SET AT SOUTH BEND...

 A RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 63 DEGREES WAS SET AT SOUTH BEND TODAY. 
THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 55 SET IN 1959.
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10 minutes ago, SchaumburgStormer said:

Topped at 59 before the crash started at 1400

I should add I’m back home (coal city) for the holidays, I know most previous posts have been from me in DKB, should probably change my name to avoid confusion lol 

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DTW hit at least 58F so far, so that beats the record of 57F from 2016. Been one balmy week for sure. Did Christmas shopping in shorts and spent most of Christmas outdoors with the family. Much rather have the snow, but after being in a bad car crash caused by a drunk driver, I’m fine with not shoveling for a bit. 

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Serious question: has average high temp in November ever verified lower than average high temp in December?

Follow up question, how far away are we from that happening this year?

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40 minutes ago, mimillman said:

Serious question: has average high temp in November ever verified lower than average high temp in December?

Follow up question, how far away are we from that happening this year?

November average max temp has been colder than December average max temp 3 times in Chicago -- 1889, 1891, 1959.  There was a tie in 2018 with both months having an average high temp of 39.7F.

As far as this month... through December 25, the average high temp is 40.0.  November 2019 had an average high temp of 41.6.  My gut feel based on the upcoming forecast high temps is that this month is probably going to come up short of last month but somebody would have to run the math.

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10 minutes ago, Hoosier said:

November average max temp has been colder than December average max temp 3 times in Chicago -- 1889, 1891, 1959.  There was a tie in 2018 with both months having an average high temp of 39.7F.

As far as this month... through December 25, the average high temp is 40.0.  November 2019 had an average high temp of 41.6.  My gut feel based on the upcoming forecast high temps is that this month is probably going to come up short of last month but somebody would have to run the math.

Including today, average high temp Dec 26 - Dec 31 will be just shy of 50 degrees.

That would bring the average high temp in Dec to 41.9, which breaks November. Very real chance we get there.

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38 minutes ago, mimillman said:

Including today, average high temp Dec 26 - Dec 31 will be just shy of 50 degrees.

That would bring the average high temp in Dec to 41.9, which breaks November. Very real chance we get there.

I am getting a monthly average high temp of like 41.4 when plugging in the high of 61 from today and LOT's forecast high temps at ORD over the next 5 days.  Double checked it and came up with the same number so not sure why the difference.  Looks like it will be close in any case. 

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16 minutes ago, Hoosier said:

I am getting a monthly average high temp of like 41.4 when plugging in the high of 61 from today and LOT's forecast high temps at ORD over the next 5 days.  Double checked it and came up with the same number so not sure why the difference.  Looks like it will be close in any case. 

Ah, I wasn’t using ORD, that’s the issue. Still, a risk of over performing on the temperature ahead of the weekend storm pretty much gets us there. Will be very close, kind of rooting for it so future generations understand how s**t this December was.

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61 ORD and 62 MDW today.

As mentioned before, previous record for the date of 55 was easily surpassed.

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1 hour ago, mimillman said:

Ah, I wasn’t using ORD, that’s the issue. Still, a risk of over performing on the temperature ahead of the weekend storm pretty much gets us there. Will be very close, kind of rooting for it so future generations understand how s**t this December was.

Or what if it ties again like Nov/Dec 2018.  That would be something.

Here are the stats for the 4 years when Dec avg high exceeded Nov average high.  It's 4 times, not 3... I missed 1877 earlier.

Nov 1877:  46.2 ; Dec 1877:  49.1

Nov 1889:  43.1 ; Dec 1889:  47.2

Nov 1891:  39.4 ; Dec 1891:  41.6

Nov 1959:  41.3 ; Dec 1959:  41.5

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19 minutes ago, Hoosier said:

Or what if it ties again like Nov/Dec 2018.  That would be something.

Here are the stats for the 4 years when Dec avg high exceeded Nov average high.  It's 4 times, not 3... I missed 1877 earlier.

Nov 1877:  46.2 ; Dec 1877:  49.1

Nov 1889:  43.1 ; Dec 1889:  47.2

Nov 1891:  39.4 ; Dec 1891:  41.6

Nov 1959:  41.3 ; Dec 1959:  41.5

How did each of those winters fare in JFM? 

The 1800s were a much different climate state, so they wouldn't be good analogs, but still curious to know. 

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7 minutes ago, Snowstorms said:

How did each of those winters fare in JFM? 

The 1800s were a much different climate state, so they wouldn't be good analogs, but still curious to know. 

Snowfall records don't go back as far as temperature records for Chicago, so n/a on 1877-78.  1889-90 and 1891-92 weren't good.  1959-60 turned it around better with almost 3 feet between January and March.

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NWS-Cleveland posted these stats on twitter: #Toledo #Ohio broke a record high temperature today of at least 63°F (old record was 62°F back in 1888). #Youngstown has tied the record high temperature at 64°F (old record was 64°F set back in 2016/1982).

I was just in Toledo a few days ago. Also, on Monday (Dec 23rd) I was at Cleveland Hopkins Airport and there was a high of 58, low of 36.

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1 hour ago, Hoosier said:

Or what if it ties again like Nov/Dec 2018.  That would be something.

Here are the stats for the 4 years when Dec avg high exceeded Nov average high.  It's 4 times, not 3... I missed 1877 earlier.

Nov 1877:  46.2 ; Dec 1877:  49.1

Nov 1889:  43.1 ; Dec 1889:  47.2

Nov 1891:  39.4 ; Dec 1891:  41.6

Nov 1959:  41.3 ; Dec 1959:  41.5

Wow, 1800s Decembers were WARM.

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