Damage In Tolland Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 I hope Benedict is right about this being a snower for SNE Monday / Tuesday. Morale on the board could use it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 10 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: I hope Benedict is right about this being a snower for SNE Monday / Tuesday. Morale on the board could use it I agree. But I’m not thinking this turns into snow for us unfortunately....nothing against the pope, but I think we’re out of that one as far as snow goes... but sure hope I’m wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leo2000 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 5 hours ago, weathafella said: Right. It no longer matters. And nervous Leo came back quickly! New Leo cancel? Is that the pig with the reds north? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, leo2000 said: Is that the pig with the reds north? The one eyed pig resides in Alaska Lou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 34 minutes ago, leo2000 said: Is that the pig with the reds north? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 40 minutes ago, WinterWolf said: I agree. But I’m not thinking this turns into snow for us unfortunately....nothing against the pope, but I think we’re out of that one as far as snow goes... but sure hope I’m wrong. The pope has been on a wine binge lately. GFS looked like a nice young lad after two glasses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 1 hour ago, weathafella said: I’ll tell you what. Yes the ensembles are giving us the pig but it’s pig light. The cold vortex remains on our side of the hemisphere and we may well have it pretty transient...like maybe 1-2 weeks max. Winter is going to rock, it just means that December may not blow the doors off, which I ever thought it would, anyway. I've always anticipated a grinch period. But I'd be surprised if Dec weren't better than 2014, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Damage In Tolland said: I hope Benedict is right about this being a snower for SNE Monday / Tuesday. Morale on the board could use it Over under on wind gusts 50s inland SNE tomorrow night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Grinch is on NBC Cindy Lou Who Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Just now, Ginx snewx said: Over under on wind gusts 50s inland SNE tomorrow night? Probably under 25mph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leo2000 Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Don't lose hope yet the GEFS isn't showing the one eyed pig, also the CFS weeklies are also not showing it. We shall see what happens. The GEFS has been performing better than the EPS in the long range when it comes to features up in the far north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 10 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Probably under 25mph Hmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 48 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Grinch is on NBC Cindy Lou Who Leaving you a snowpack of no more than 2". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 The high of 22F on 11/22/1890 isn't on the list of threaded low max temps so not sure where wbz got it from. Maybe another BOS site back then that wasn't the official obs site? It isn't just because of Logan airport either...because it has the Dead Sea scrolls high of 10F observed by a civil war veteran in his union army hat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: The high of 22F on 11/22/1890 isn't on the list of threaded low max temps so not sure where wbz got it from. Maybe another BOS site back then that wasn't the official obs site? It isn't just because of Logan airport either...because it has the Dead Sea scrolls high of 10F observed by a civil war veteran in his union army hat. 1890-11-21 45 30 37.5 -5.7 27 0 0.00 1890-11-22 49 35 42.0 -0.8 23 0 T 1890-11-23 37 25 31.0 -11.5 34 0 T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78Blizzard Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 21 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: The high of 22F on 11/22/1890 isn't on the list of threaded low max temps so not sure where wbz got it from. Maybe another BOS site back then that wasn't the official obs site? It isn't just because of Logan airport either...because it has the Dead Sea scrolls high of 10F observed by a civil war veteran in his union army hat. 13 minutes ago, dendrite said: 1890-11-21 45 30 37.5 -5.7 27 0 0.00 1890-11-22 49 35 42.0 -0.8 23 0 T 1890-11-23 37 25 31.0 -11.5 34 0 T It was 1891, not 1890. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 31 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: The high of 22F on 11/22/1890 isn't on the list of threaded low max temps so not sure where wbz got it from. Maybe another BOS site back then that wasn't the official obs site? It isn't just because of Logan airport either...because it has the Dead Sea scrolls high of 10F observed by a civil war veteran in his union army hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 The November departures are riduculous up here. These are without the -15 to -25 departures today. The monthly means will fall further at midnight tonight. Three weeks of just impressive cold relative to the time of year. Monthly Departures: BTV... -5.6 MVL... -6.2 MPV... -6.7 When Burlington is at -5.6 over a 3+ week period... that's entering another level. This morning's record of -1F was -30F from normal. Streak of 18 out of 19 days being below normal locally at MVL. Yesterday's maximum temperature of 11F was a -30F from normal. This has been truly ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 31 minutes ago, 78Blizzard said: It was 1891, not 1890. Looks like the 22F high was on 11/29/1891 and not 11/22, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78Blizzard Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 23 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: Looks like the 22F high was on 11/29/1891 and not 11/22, So WBZ got it wrong then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Just now, 78Blizzard said: So WBZ got it wrong then. Yeah date was wrong...but their graphic for lowest November highs is still fairly accurate from a year perspective. They just need to change the date of the 1891 high from 11/22 to 11/29. The old site was right near what is now Boston public garden. Much easier to get lower temps than Logan Airport...esp in the civil war era with less UHI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 10 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: Yeah date was wrong...but their graphic for lowest November highs is still fairly accurate from a year perspective. They just need to change the date of the 1891 high from 11/22 to 11/29. The old site was right near what is now Boston public garden. Much easier to get lower temps than Logan Airport...esp in the civil war era with less UHI. I do wish the site wasn’t at Logan. I get why it is there, but the Common or a place a bit inland would make much more sense. Is there a way to determine when in US history the UHI effect first became noticeable? It would differ per city, but for Boston I would think by the 1920s or so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78Blizzard Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 19 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said: I do wish the site wasn’t at Logan. I get why it is there, but the Common or a place a bit inland would make much more sense. Is there a way to determine when in US history the UHI effect first became noticeable? It would differ per city, but for Boston I would think by the 1920s or so Here's a study that was done showing the UHI effect on cities around the country. I'm not sure I buy it, as they have the Boston-Providence corridor with a negative UHI, lol. https://phys.org/news/2015-09-cities-based-urban-island-effect.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 18 minutes ago, 78Blizzard said: Here's a study that was done showing the UHI effect on cities around the country. I'm not sure I buy it, as they have the Boston-Providence corridor with a negative UHI, lol. https://phys.org/news/2015-09-cities-based-urban-island-effect.html The actual paper is paywalled so I can't read it. The only thing I can think of is that BOS and PVD are on the water, so the proximity to ocean will actually give them a strong cooling effect in the warm seasons. That might be more than offsetting the cold season differences. But we can't be sure until we actually read it...if the study was done correctly they would already account for this in their measurements. But I've seen some sloppy papers before on these topics that still surprisingly get past peer review. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78Blizzard Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 15 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: The actual paper is paywalled so I can't read it. The only thing I can think of is that BOS and PVD are on the water, so the proximity to ocean will actually give them a strong cooling effect in the warm seasons. That might be more than offsetting the cold season differences. But we can't be sure until we actually read it...if the study was done correctly they would already account for this in their measurements. But I've seen some sloppy papers before on these topics that still surprisingly get past peer review. I would buy that reasoning but for the fact that they have Cleveland as one of the top 4 heat island cities despite the cooling effect of Lake Erie. I would think that the westerlies off the lake would be more prevalent than the easterlies off the ocean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Euro is not caving up here for Mon/Tue. In fact it looks snowier and colder at the sfc here than 12z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 We snooze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Unless you're in NNE..boredom sets in for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, dendrite said: Euro is not caving up here for Mon/Tue. In fact it looks snowier and colder at the sfc here than 12z. Weenie map me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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