NJwx85 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Not sure, but looks like any advisories that might have been in affect for the five boroughs has been canceled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, BxEngine said: its for sure an event in parts of the metro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, NJwx85 said: It's becoming less of an event for more people today, but it's still significant. And the time of day couldn't be much worse. For some people sure, its becoming a non event. But for parts of the metro, its still an at least advisory criteria storm. Claiming its only for "outside the metro" leads to more of the location fights bs that have plagued this subforum for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Or Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwx85 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 1 minute ago, BxEngine said: For some people sure, its becoming a non event. But for parts of the metro, its still an at least advisory criteria storm. Claiming its only for "outside the metro" leads to more of the location fights bs that have plagued this subforum for years. As I said earlier, the difference in sensible weather over a 150 mile stretch between Newburgh and Riverhead is so stark that it might as well be 1500 miles. You would think New England would have a similar issue but they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlsterCountySnowZ Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Storm warning 6-10” here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwx85 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Rjay said: Or Is that a map of the NY TV area? Because that line on Ocean County is exactly where the cutoff between NY Stations and Philly is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadInTheClouds Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 9 minutes ago, NJwx85 said: That's not entirely accurate. The warm layer is extremely shallow. The interior has a period of good lift around 700mb where temps will be -8C to -12C which is generally favorable. This has the potential of delivering a period of very heavy wet snow around sunrise. What's your best guess for ratios north of 84 in dutchess county? I was thinking 10-12:1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 1 minute ago, NJwx85 said: As I said earlier, the difference in sensible weather over a 150 mile stretch between Newburgh and Riverhead is so stark that it might as well be 1500 miles. You would think New England would have a similar issue but they don't. You don't think there's a huge difference between Worcester and Cape Cod? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwx85 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Nibor said: You don't think there's a huge difference between Worcester and Cape Cod? My point was that despite the differences they all manage to get along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlsterCountySnowZ Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Coastal CT dropped it’s WWA’s too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwx85 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, HeadInTheClouds said: What's your best guess for ratios north of 84 in dutchess county? I was thinking 10-12:1. 10:1 is a good number to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlsterCountySnowZ Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Just now, NJwx85 said: My point was that despite the differences they all manage to get along. Have u read that NE thread??? Maybe worse than us.. nasty personal attacks every time I read it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan76 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, NJwx85 said: As I said earlier, the difference in sensible weather over a 150 mile stretch between Newburgh and Riverhead is so stark that it might as well be 1500 miles. You would think New England would have a similar issue but they don't. The cape and BOS aren't different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, NJwx85 said: Is that a map of the NY TV area? Because that line on Ocean County is exactly where the cutoff between NY Stations and Philly is. Idk man. Supposedly it's the NYC metro area. I'd never consider Pike county part of NYC metro but every map I found includes them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetbulbs88 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Dropping the WWA here in NYC was rash. No need to do that yet. I see no reason not to still expect 2-4" here. Latest NAM looked much improved and it is downright cold here in Harlem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadInTheClouds Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, NJwx85 said: Is that a map of the NY TV area? Because that line on Ocean County is exactly where the cutoff between NY Stations and Philly is. I think it is. I'm in dutchess and we have optimum, same shade as people in Rockland, Westchester and Long Island who I know have optimum also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sferic Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 39 degrees in Lynbrook and near freezing a few miles west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 15 minutes ago, NJwx85 said: As I said earlier, the difference in sensible weather over a 150 mile stretch between Newburgh and Riverhead is so stark that it might as well be 1500 miles. You would think New England would have a similar issue but they don't. Depending on which route you take one could get Newburgh and Riverhead 200 miles apart but after looking at a map one will see they they are closer to 80 miles apart from each other and yes, those 80 miles can make a world of difference. The snow became steadier in central Orange County over the past hour or so, everything getting coated once again after pixie dust for much of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 .TONIGHT...A chance of snow and rain this evening, then rain after midnight. Snow accumulation around an inch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 16 minutes ago, NJwx85 said: As I said earlier, the difference in sensible weather over a 150 mile stretch between Newburgh and Riverhead is so stark that it might as well be 1500 miles. You would think New England would have a similar issue but they don't. 150 sounded high, so I went and mapped it. Newburgh to Riverhead is 80 miles for the crows. Roughly half. Now Norfolk, CT to Riverhead is only 77 miles. That's an even starker difference in winter climo, but there's more elevation difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 14 minutes ago, Rjay said: Idk man. Supposedly it's the NYC metro area. I'd never consider Pike county part of NYC metro but every map I found includes them. People commute to NYC from Pike, I think that's too far but its their quality of life, not mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 1 hour ago, jfklganyc said: I’m not sure where you’re at exactly...but I just flew over Long Beach on the ILS31R. Beyond the frozen edges Of the bay I did not see any snow cover whatsoever. Not doubting your account, But I just want to paint an accurate picture...I flew over 20 minutes ago and there is no snow cover in Long Beach west to Rockaway east to Lido and Jones. Again, I’m not being confrontational but I’m just putting that out there. Wantagh, so 7-10 miles north east of there. I should have taken a picture. My front yard has 50% snow cover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, IrishRob17 said: People commute to NYC from Pike, I think that's too far but its their quality of life, not mine. I know a few who take the train from Port Jervis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, IrishRob17 said: People commute to NYC from Pike, I think that's too far but its their quality of life, not mine. I wonder if anyone is commuting from Pine Hill. NYC metro, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlsterCountySnowZ Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, NorthShoreWx said: I wonder if anyone is commuting from Pine Hill. NYC metro, eh? People with ridiculous commutes isn’t that uncommon I have about 5 firefighter that work with me that have 2hr 30min commutes from PA TO West Point granted we work 48 hour shifts so they’re not commuting 5 days a week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericjcrash Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, NorthShoreWx said: I wonder if anyone is commuting from Pine Hill. NYC metro, eh? I know a guy, seriously. People do commute, why is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesussxwx Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Light snow. 30F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 29 minutes ago, Wetbulbs88 said: Dropping the WWA here in NYC was rash. No need to do that yet. I see no reason not to still expect 2-4" here. Latest NAM looked much improved and it is downright cold here in Harlem. The soundings show a warm layer below 900 mb. There will be rain/very wet snow before any accumulations take place in the City. Here's the NAM sounding for tomorrow 6z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 1 minute ago, donsutherland1 said: The soundings show a warm layer below 900 mb. There will be rain/very wet snow before any accumulations take place in the City. Here's the NAM sounding for tomorrow 6z. The rain snow line is very close . It's possible that the models are wrong with that aspect. We shall see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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