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January 3-4 Storm Thread part II


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19 minutes ago, griteater said:

UKMet has the low over Cape Cod area at 144, well west of the previous run.  Hard to tell what happened before that, but it has a deeper phase this run.  Could be some Carolina coast precip on it.

Yeah, it looked like a full latitude neutral tilt at about 82°W

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I don't think the NAM is that awful. All the models have a strung out trough there. The key is what happens after that. Not sure I trust its upper levels anyway. I mean, it's just from the GFS boundary conditions (18z presumably), so is it really telling us anything new about what's going on over the Pacific?

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1 minute ago, mackerel_sky said:

What if the trough/confluence in the  lakes and NE is so strong, at go time, it's forcing the shortwaves farther S and W!?

Even today's storm was further north and west than it looked a few days ago. But it was already such a long shot that it didn't matter.

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