dmillz25 Posted July 21, 2017 Author Share Posted July 21, 2017 Heatwaves this summer are like snow events last winter, once a month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIK62 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 CFS shows little heat around here from July 24 to August 18 or so. Heatwave for third week of August is indicated, then closes out the month below normal again. Next 45 days actually shown as averaging BN. Meanwhile we are finishing out our 26th. month AN, out of the last 28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 On 7/13/2017 at 11:31 PM, forkyfork said: theta e Thanks Forky! By the way did you have a chance to look at the data for KIFP (Bullhead City, Arizona) for the night between July 15-16? There was a huge heatburst there and they hit 136 degrees! Was this confirmed? Here is the data on wunderground. https://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KIFP/2017/07/15/DailyHistory.html?req_city=Bullhead City&req_state=AZ&reqdb.zip=86439&reqdb.magic=4&reqdb.wmo=99999 Temperature Mean Temperature 114 °F - Max Temperature 136 °F 106 °F 136 °F (2017) Min Temperature 91 °F 85 °F 72 °F (1993) https://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KIFP/2017/07/16/DailyHistory.html?req_city=Bullhead City&req_state=AZ&reqdb.zip=86439&reqdb.magic=4&reqdb.wmo=99999 Temperature Mean Temperature 112 °F - Max Temperature 131 °F 106 °F 131 °F (2017) Min Temperature 93 °F 85 °F 74 °F (1993) From the data it looks like the heat burst started at 7:55 PM and from there until 1:15 AM it was over 130 degrees! What a massive and long lasting heat burst! By looking at past heat bursts that have occurred in different regions, they always seem to occur late at night- any idea why that might be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 5 hours ago, dmillz25 said: Heatwaves this summer are like snow events last winter, once a month It's the first heatwave of the season for the south shore of Nassau County (our previous bouts of heat have only lasted two days, this is the first one that's been a true heatwave.) We hit 91 Wednesday, 95 yesterday and just hit 90 today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 4 hours ago, CIK62 said: CFS shows little heat around here from July 24 to August 18 or so. Heatwave for third week of August is indicated, then closes out the month below normal again. Next 45 days actually shown as averaging BN. Meanwhile we are finishing out our 26th. month AN, out of the last 28 That would follow the pattern we've had for a few months about having a hot third week of the month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 On 7/18/2017 at 2:34 PM, forkyfork said: i would have to do some work to quantify this but i feel like 70+ dewpoints are much easier to come by these days than when i was a kid It actually makes sense considering we are also much wetter than we used to be. We used to average around 40-42 inches of rain a year when I was a kid, and now it's like 50 inches plus lol. It makes me wonder if it will actually become easier to hit 100; with humidity so high the sun will have to work harder to hit those historic high temps, but the night time lows will certainly be warmer and that will more than make up the difference in the monthly averages. We could end up with a subtropical rain forest climate with lots of low 90s and dew points of 70-75 being the norm with lows in the upper 70s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 On 7/18/2017 at 3:05 PM, dWave said: They are all here http://www.climatecentral.org/gallery/graphics/summers-getting-muggier-as-dewpoint-temp-rises A product of warmer ocean temps I assume. Also, maybe that's a factor in warmer overnight lows, which seem to be pushing positive departures more than the daytime highs. Consistently very warm as opposed to short bursts of extreme heat. I like short bursts of extreme heat with low humidity, which hasn't happened this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 13 hours ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said: Me too. So dark the street lights came on. Enjoy the drought because here it is right on schedule So are the cicadas. I heard them for the first time this year yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 On 7/18/2017 at 1:03 PM, SnoSki14 said: That's surprising well above what I would've expected given that highs are likely to stay below 95 and it's the hottest time of year. Seems we had lower departures in the past with much greater max temps. So far it's hit 95 here three times (barely) but not gone over here. It hit 95 once in June and twice so far in July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherFeen2000 Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 I'm going to Robert Moses state park tomorrow for my birthday and I was going to go get some seafood in Freeport, Long Island afterward...Any suggestions of hot spots there I'm taking my wife there after the beach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 2 hours ago, WeatherFeen2000 said: I'm going to Robert Moses state park tomorrow for my birthday and I was going to go get some seafood in Freeport, Long Island afterward...Any suggestions of hot spots there I'm taking my wife there after the beach. The whole nautical mile is great. There are a ton of restaurants. Just drive down south towards the bay and find one you like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 On 7/20/2017 at 7:42 PM, Stormlover74 said: I keep looking for 7/18/97 but can't find the radar. Pretty sure forky posted it before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 i grew up in bayonne and watched events cross newark bay with a clear view. this was another great one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 http://synoptic.envsci.rutgers.edu/riggi/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRRTA22 Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Best thunderstorm IMO is 6/1/06. Not in terms of severe but the lightning it produced...oh man. Only tstorm that really sticks with me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfa Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Interesting to see that the Long Island Mesonet sites are the only sites with soil temps in the 80's even down to 20". Virtually every other site in the state are about 70-ish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 5 hours ago, forkyfork said: http://synoptic.envsci.rutgers.edu/riggi/ That shows the dry punch that kept me from going over 20" very well. That said, some of the best legit blizzard conditions I've ever seen in person before that dry slot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dWave Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 44 minutes ago, Cfa said: Interesting to see that the Long Island Mesonet sites are the only sites with soil temps in the 80's even down to 20". Virtually every other site in the state are about 70-ish. Probably b/c of the relatively cool nights north of NYC and upstate. Also the soil type on LI. I wish NYC mesonets had soi ml temp somewhere. NY botanical garden's wunderground does, its was 77 this morning. NYC soil temp outside of the large parks might be really high with the warmer nights. Like in a typically small backyard surrounding by rows of bldgs. I used to check NYBG soil temp for potential of snow sticking in marginal events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Currently 107 in St Louis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfa Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 3 hours ago, Rjay said: Currently 107 in St Louis Similar temps in Shanghai, but with higher humidity. It's 98 there (HI 116) going up to 105. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 It just does not want to rain on LI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncat Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 45 minutes ago, Rjay said: It just does not want to rain on LI I see that Islip has about 9 in. less precip for the year than my station...23 vs 32. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 59 minutes ago, Rjay said: It just does not want to rain on LI It's coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfa Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Current mood on Long Island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Stormlover74 said: It's coming It does want to right now lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 13 minutes ago, Rjay said: It does want to right now lol We get the best flash flood events with warm fronts though. Looks like the strataform rain will deliver a bit tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 8 hours ago, doncat said: I see that Islip has about 9 in. less precip for the year than my station...23 vs 32. Seems to be a lingering pattern from the drought last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantom X Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 On July 21, 2017 at 0:35 PM, Paragon said: Thanks Forky! By the way did you have a chance to look at the data for KIFP (Bullhead City, Arizona) for the night between July 15-16? There was a huge heatburst there and they hit 136 degrees! Was this confirmed? Here is the data on wunderground. https://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KIFP/2017/07/15/DailyHistory.html?req_city=Bullhead City&req_state=AZ&reqdb.zip=86439&reqdb.magic=4&reqdb.wmo=99999 Temperature Mean Temperature 114 °F - Max Temperature 136 °F 106 °F 136 °F (2017) Min Temperature 91 °F 85 °F 72 °F (1993) https://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KIFP/2017/07/16/DailyHistory.html?req_city=Bullhead City&req_state=AZ&reqdb.zip=86439&reqdb.magic=4&reqdb.wmo=99999 Temperature Mean Temperature 112 °F - Max Temperature 131 °F 106 °F 131 °F (2017) Min Temperature 93 °F 85 °F 74 °F (1993) From the data it looks like the heat burst started at 7:55 PM and from there until 1:15 AM it was over 130 degrees! What a massive and long lasting heat burst! By looking at past heat bursts that have occurred in different regions, they always seem to occur late at night- any idea why that might be? Surprised no one is talking about this. Is there any PWS around this station to back up this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 36 minutes ago, Fantom X said: Surprised no one is talking about this. Is there any PWS around this station to back up this? If the temperature is confirmed wouldn't that make it the warmest temperature recorded on Earth? I'm not sure why we haven't heard more about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIK62 Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 CFS is still BN on a 45-day basis for us. Only heat in August is centered around the 21st.. apparently---using 10-day blocks. However the monthlies are all AN through April 2018. Only hints of BN for the winter months from SE Canadian regions paying us a visit maybe, if they can be expanded south and west, as happened in this March period, which was supposed to be AN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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