HoarfrostHubb Posted February 12, 2016 Author Share Posted February 12, 2016 But Bastardi is tweeting all time record lows will be set Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radarman Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 ORH has been the same way...we've set a lot of cold max records since 2000 but very few min. Esp months of Oct/Nov...ORH has set 13 low max records in those two months since 2000. At any rate, ironically, I don't think we'll set any record low maxes in this outbreak due to timing, but record low is a legit possibility. I know some sites don't radiate well at all, ORH ASOS is in an elevated spot, etc. But is it fair to say that even at those sites most record lows happen on clear, calm nights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted February 12, 2016 Author Share Posted February 12, 2016 Man just looking back on last February...just brutal. I hated that month, lol. MVL's lowest was a -29F. The average low last February was -10F...handful of -20s thrown in for good measure. That cold isn't going to be touched. I never thought Feb 1934 would go down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 I know some sites don't radiate well at all, ORH ASOS is in an elevated spot, etc. But is it fair to say that even at those sites most record lows happen on clear, calm nights? ORH tends to do it on fairly strong CAA, usually not calm. Though I would agree that some of them probably occur on calm nights if an arctic high goes right overhead at the perfect time. Example: ORH almost set a record low in the CAA on Jan 21, 1984...then the next night, MA recorded their coldest temp of all time at -40F under the calm high (which actually went a bit to our south)....ORH didn't even a get top 5 coldest night for that date on the 2nd night. Prob because the high was a bit south and they kept a SW wind. It would be an interesting study to look up all the record lows there in winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 I never thought Feb 1934 would go down That's true. Just looking at those values in the BTV CWA though that was an insane month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radarman Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 ORH tends to do it on fairly strong CAA, usually not calm. Though I would agree that some of them probably occur on calm nights if an arctic high goes right overhead at the perfect time. Example: ORH almost set a record low in the CAA on Jan 21, 1984...then the next night, MA recorded their coldest temp of all time at -40F under the calm high (which actually went a bit to our south)....ORH didn't even a get top 5 coldest night for that date on the 2nd night. Prob because the high was a bit south and they kept a SW wind. It would be an interesting study to look up all the record lows there in winter. Thanks, interesting. You figure big time CAA days are almost certainly responsible for the record low maxes... seems rather fluky that you wouldn't see corresponding record lows at sites for whom CAA also drives the mins. Down here in the valley that pattern would make a little more sense if there were a multi year trend of increasing nocturnal winds or UHI impacts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Thanks, interesting. You figure big time CAA days are almost certainly responsible for the record low maxes... seems rather fluky that you wouldn't see corresponding record lows at sites for whom CAA also drives the mins. Down here in the valley that pattern would make a little more sense if there were a multi year trend of increasing nocturnal winds or UHI impacts. Well even a site like ORH technically "radiates"....though just not nearly to the extent of the valleys or the interior CP so we (me included) often say they don't radiate worth a damn, but it's really just a relative description...the technicality is important in the physics of it. So the combination of UHI and AGW (which is supposed to affect radiational cooling at night more than daytime maxes) could explain the lack of min temps set despite some of those low maxes going down. January 2004 was able to pull off both...but that is a rare feat these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 1985 was the winter of State record low temps, 5 different states at different times set all time lows including Colorado South Caolina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 -39C at H85 for Moosonee tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#NoPoles Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 is this one of those things that if we refuse to discuss it it might go away??? because this type of cold weather seriously pisses me off...there's no need for this ****! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 is this one of those things that if we refuse to discuss it it might go away??? because this type of cold weather seriously pisses me off...there's no need for this ****!Set off your fire alarm Sat night, go outside, and sit in the -30s windchills for an hour for old time's sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 gfs soundings for tom night are so well mixed they look like daytime soundings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#NoPoles Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Set off your fire alarm Sat night, go outside, and sit in the -30s windchills for an hour for old time's sake. Omfg! You remember that too!? I think it went off 3 times that night! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 is this one of those things that if we refuse to discuss it it might go away??? because this type of cold weather seriously pisses me off...there's no need for this ****!Amen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis1729 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 1985 was the winter of State record low temps, 5 different states at different times set all time lows including Colorado South Caolina. Yep - and 1/20/1985 was Chicago's all-time record low of -27F. I believe there were H85 temps near -40C in MN during that outbreak...possibly the coldest H85 temps on record for the Midwest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted February 13, 2016 Author Share Posted February 13, 2016 Frost quake warnings being issued Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 NAM is finally starting to join reality this cycle. (as predicted) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted February 13, 2016 Author Share Posted February 13, 2016 NAM is finally starting to join reality this cycle. (as predicted) NAM takes BOS to -7? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Yep - and 1/20/1985 was Chicago's all-time record low of -27F. I believe there were H85 temps near -40C in MN during that outbreak...possibly the coldest H85 temps on record for the Midwest.Yeah that was an insane cold shot...-35C down to STL. MN has seen -40s at H85 before though. 1996 had a pretty epic cold shot. I remember they were selling shirts there that said "I survived the big cold." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 NAM takes BOS to -7? Oops, wrong thread, lol. I meant for the storm next week. MET guidance hasn't come out yet. It's still crazy cold though...I don't think too much will change on that front. The MET guidance may tone down slightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted February 13, 2016 Author Share Posted February 13, 2016 Oops, wrong thread, lol. I meant for the storm next week. MET guidance hasn't come out yet. It's still crazy cold though...I don't think too much will change on that front. The MET guidance may tone down slightly. Bouchard is tweeting a NAM temp map with that temp That would surprise me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Bouchard is tweeting a NAM temp map with that temp That would surprise me Yeah the 2m temps on the raw output are insane cold right on the coast. I don't quite buy it that extreme. We'll see what the MET guidance (the NAM MOS) has when it comes out soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Yeah the 2m temps on the raw output are insane cold right on the coast. I don't quite buy it that extreme. We'll see what the MET guidance (the NAM MOS) has when it comes out soon. It has a really cold layer at H95. Sneaky cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Box is going -6F at BOS? Wow.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 is this one of those things that if we refuse to discuss it it might go away??? because this type of cold weather seriously pisses me off...there's no need for this ****!It's winter and its New England. Wah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Temp just bounced up to 10* s and the breeze started. CAA commence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professional Lurker Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Temp just bounced up to 10* s and the breeze started. CAA commence?I was very surprised actually how warm it is out there compared to what I expected, or what it was yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 I was very surprised actually how warm it is out there compared to what I expected, or what it was yesterday.wrong day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Just did an 8 miler in light snow and temps of 11, but no wind. Wasn't terribly cold. Big worry tonight is the gust to 55mph and temps in the teens below zero. Folks lose power..that could be a very bad situation in a hurry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 I was very surprised actually how warm it is out there compared to what I expected, or what it was yesterday. I've climbed 3* since I came down at 5:30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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