Brooklyndude Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 We all are right now yes, i changed the phrase from " may you live in interesting times" i agree. we are!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooklynwx99 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Anyone have a storm-length radar loop?I think there's one in the mid-Atlantic thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericjcrash Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 These are certainly "the good old days" for snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherFeen2000 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/01/25/measuring-mix-up-leaves-dc-with-underreported-snow-total.html That explains it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 The Friday system looks like a coastal scraper to me. Not an interior threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncat Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 15 degrees this am...glad no work today...sore from shoveling . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 These are certainly "the good old days" for snow. These 20"+ events are all starting to blend together since there have been so many of them since 2000. In the past, we were lucky to see 1 or 2 events a decade with maxes of 20" or more. LI/SCT/SE NY/NNJ 20" max storms since 2000: 2/17/03 2/5-7/03 1/22-23/05 close at 19.5" max 2/11/06 12/19-12/20/09 2/26-27/10 12/26-27/10 1/11-1/12/11 1/26-1/27/11 2/8-2/9/13 1/26/15 1/23/16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlsterCountySnowZ Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 The Friday system looks like a coastal scraper to me. Not an interior threat. There's lots of wiggle room on this...if the trough goes negative even 6 hours earlier than depicted on euro it's coming up the coast, and way west of current depiction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NycStormChaser Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 ALOT of streets in queens have been plowed once yet. The mayor is going to really get it for this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 ALOT of streets in queens have been plowed once yet. The mayor is going to really get it for this Big Bird doesn't care...another Lindsay... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyblizz44 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 ALOT of streets in queens have been plowed once yet. The mayor is going to really get it for thisUtterly horrfic, kids' school 10 minutes away took 50 minutes because of nightmare on queens streets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morris Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Local streets here are relatively decent. It was a total disaster for a week after the BDB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morris Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Time to unpin the randytastic threads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JERSEYSNOWROB Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Side streets all clear in the burbs down here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleetStormNJ Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Even where the roads have been plowed multiple times and salted into oblivion, the lane size is drastically reduced down to 1 from 2 or 3. Tons of snowpacked secondary and tertiary streets by me. Main roads have been plowed but lots of places were closed over the weekend and are only just clearing out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherFeen2000 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Our problem in my neighborhood is they plow the streets beautifully but than dumb people dig their cars and throw the snow back on the street? I really don't get them! It's been pissing me off a lot. Like dude make a pile out of it and stop throwing the snow back on the street. What's the point of plowing if you're going to do that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rclab Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Big Bird doesn't care...another Lindsay... Well Unc, at least we have a good idea where Sessame Street is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 There's lots of wiggle room on this...if the trough goes negative even 6 hours earlier than depicted on euro it's coming up the coast, and way west of current depiction I don't see it. The trough is too far east, by the time the northern vorts drop in. Unless we see a dramatic shift, this is a coastal scraper threat with better results for E. LI and SNE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIK62 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Feb. 3-4 looks more interesting, but way too warm (34-48 at surface and 850's way above 0C) at all levels. This should be followed by some colder air and 'clipper like snows'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 These 20"+ events are all starting to blend together since there have been so many of them since 2000. In the past, we were lucky to see 1 or 2 events a decade with maxes of 20" or more. LI/SCT/SE NY/NNJ 20" max storms since 2000: 2/17/03 2/5-7/03 1/22-23/05 close at 19.5" max 2/11/06 12/19-12/20/09 2/26-27/10 12/26-27/10 1/11-1/12/11 1/26-1/27/11 2/8-2/9/13 1/26/15 1/23/16 147 years of record keeping and 5 out of nyc's top 10 snowfalls have occurred in the past decade. our snow climo is changing rapidly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlsterCountySnowZ Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 I don't see it. The trough is too far east, by the time the northern vorts drop in. Unless we see a dramatic shift, this is a coastal scraper threat with better results for E. LI and SNE. My only problem is that models have underestimate the timing of southern energy ALL year, I don't see the energy being behind or even with the trough, which is what the euro has been hinting, but hey we shall see soon enough lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericjcrash Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 147 years of record keeping and 5 out of nyc's top 10 snowfalls have occurred in the past decade. our snow climo is changing rapidly. Yeah, a more realistic average should be around 38" now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 I don't see it. The trough is too far east, by the time the northern vorts drop in. Unless we see a dramatic shift, this is a coastal scraper threat with better results for E. LI and SNE. I think it's way too early to be drawing those conclusions. Especially considering how far NW the Euro and EPS have been and the trend this year for everything to move further NW over time. I would agree that this storm would favor E LI and SNE over the rest of the area, but we all know how volatile these things can be. Then you add in the Euro's better skill with Miller A's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherfreeeeak Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 12z GFS went east of 6z..I'm still not giving up hope on this one yet tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 There's lots of wiggle room on this...if the trough goes negative even 6 hours earlier than depicted on euro it's coming up the coast, and way west of current depiction This may come far enough west to effect eastern areas. We are gonna need a dramatic shift W for us in the interior to have a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaner587 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 147 years of record keeping and 5 out of nyc's top 10 snowfalls have occurred in the past decade. our snow climo is changing rapidly. Regardless of where you stand on agw it had been well studied especially in the last 10-15 years that warmer artic=more severe mid latitude winter weather. Doesn't mean we won't have some dud winters but they may be fewer and further between. Between 1970-2000 there were 16 "duds" (arbitrarily <20 inches of snow) 14 average or above and only 5 > or equal to 30. Since 2000, there have been only 4 "duds" (01-02,06-07,07-08 and 11-12). Of the rest only 2 were less than 30, 08-09 and 12-13. The rest (9 winters) were >30 and 8 of them >40 with half of those being >50. To put in perspective, between 1948-1949 and 2008-2009 (60 years) there have only been 5 winters with >50 inches of snowfall. Since 2009-2010 they're have already been 4 and depending on the rest of this winter we have at least a shot at 5 equaling the previous 60years. A snowy period such as this just does not exist in the 147 years of NYC snowfall climatology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 we measure snow differently than before...one of the best examples of this was the blizzard of 64...it was a 24 hr storm that measured 12.5"...the snow depth measured 13"...something is wrong here if it was a six hour measurement...no snow was on the ground when it started and you would think 24 hours of snow would compact by the time it ended... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaner587 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Agree about the measuring snow different uncle w but that can't account for the large difference seen. It likely has some effect though I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morris Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Agree about the measuring snow different uncle w but that can't account for the large difference seen. It likely has some effect though I agree The seasonal average of 25" was probably never true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Agree about the measuring snow different uncle w but that can't account for the large difference seen. It likely has some effect though I agree the last 24 years had 20 storms 10" or more...not counting last years 9.8" storm...the 24 years before that was 1968-69 to 1991-92 had 5...1944-45-1967-68 had 11... Year....date....amount"... 1872...12/26.......18.0" 1875...4/13.........10.0" 1876...2/3-4........11.0" 1877...1/1-2........13.0" 1879...1/15-16....13.0" 1888...3/12-14....21.0" 1896...3/2...........10.0" 1896...3/15-16....12.0" 1897...1/27-28....10.0" 1898...11/26-27..10.0" 1899...2/12-14....16.0" 1902...2/17..........10.0" 1905...1/24-25.....11.0" 1907...2/4-5.........11.0" 1908...1/23-24.....10.0" 1910...1/14-15.....10.0" 1912...12/24........11.4" 1914...3/1-2.........14.5" 1915...4/3-4.........10.2" 1916...12/15........12.7" 1920...2/4-7.........17.5" 1921...2/20..........12.5" 1925...1/2............11.5" 1926...2/3-4.........10.4" 1926...2/9-10.......12.0" 1933...2/11..........10.0" 1933...12/26........11.2" 1935...1/23-24.....13.0" 1941...3/7-8.........18.1" 1947...2/20-21.....10.7" 1947...12/26-27...26.4" 1948...12/19-20...16.0" 1956...3/18-19.....11.6" 1958...3/19-20.....11.8" 1959...12/21-22...13.7" 1960...3/3-4.........14.5" 1960...12/11-12...15.2" 1961...2/3-4.........17.4" 1964...1/12-13.....12.5" 1967...2/7............12.5" 1969...2/9-10.......15.3" 1978...1/19-20.....13.6" 1978...2/6-7.........17.7" 1979...2/19..........12.7" 1983...2/11-12.....17.6" 1993...3/13-14.....10.6" 1994...2/11..........12.8" 1995...2/4............10.8" 1996...1/7-8.........20.2" 1996...2/16-17.....10.7" 2000...12/30........12.0" 2003...2/16-17.....19.8" 2003...12/5-6.......14.0" 2004...1/28..........10.4" 2005...1/22-23.....13.8" 2006...2/11-12.....26.9" 2009...12/19-20...10.9" 2010...2/9-10.......10.0" 2010...2/25-26.....20.9" 2010...12/26-27...20.0" 2011...1/25-26.....19.0" 2013...2/8-9.........11.4" 2014...1/21..........11.5" 2014...2/13-14.....12.5" 2016...1/22-23.....26.8" 1870's...5 1880's...1 1890's...5 1900's...4 1910's...5 1920's...5 1930's...3 1940's...4 1950's...3 1960's...6 1970's...3 1980's...1 1990's...5 2000's...7 2010's...8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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