Webberweather53 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Back off, and I mean right now. You in way over your head here. How so? It's merely just a matter of opinion in the end for one, and secondly the data is sitting right in front of me, it wouldn't take too terribly long (a few days at the very most) to reproduce a temperature distribution for Raleigh in January since 1887. The comment was not meant to be taken in derogatory manner, I was completely serious when I virtually outright stated that I care more about the actual data itself than the degree nwp holds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackerel_sky Posted January 20, 2015 Author Share Posted January 20, 2015 The Euro actually drops T-2" from RDU up into NE NC. Not as bad as I was expecting. EDIT: Except it's 40 degrees at the surface. Who cares about torching temps at 5 days out? It'll work itself out just like the Friday storm!Cold is ALWAYS most important part of wintry event in the south!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkman Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 NOT TRUE I, umm, yeah I'm not going to get sucked into this argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncwxlvr Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 This is from the NWS in Raleigh. They define the "normal" temperature range with about 18-20 degree spread, meaning that +/- 8-10F from "average" is considered normal or seasonable. Thus far this month Raleigh has averaged about -1.45F below normal, the winter thus far since December 1st, +.234, both are fairly close to normal in their own respect. The US temperature distribution in the first half of the month closely followed my Warm Neutral-Weak El Nino composites, however just like in December, a more "traditional" El Nino look is trying to take over w/ the core of the cold being centered towards Texas... We should end up w/ the core of the coldest anoms. vs normals in the SE US & on the E coast in February, which is essentially a colder modification of December in a broad sense. Ok then, I'm going to ask the same question as Dacula, what do you define as "normal" or seasonable, because this is obviously going against what the NWS & I think. Webber, the "normal" range on the chart has to do with what is the normal high and low only. You are misreading its purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshM Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 *looks at pattern discussion thread* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeyefan1 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 You are never going to learn.......sigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjames1992 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 LOL, the weather might be disastrous but this forum has delivered many a chuckle today. So much drama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webberweather53 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Webber, the "normal" range on the chart has to do with what is the normal high and low only. You are misreading its purpose. No, that graph shows the normal "temperature range" in Raleigh NC, (the ends of the blue bars are the respective high & low temperatures for the day) and this spread in temperatures comes out to be around 18-20F, divide by 2 & you have a valid approximation for what the NWS thinks is "seasonable" in terms of max/min temperature departures from normal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeyefan1 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 WTH is wrong with youngins these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjames1992 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Who cares about torching temps at 5 days out? It'll work itself out just like the Friday storm! Cold is ALWAYS most important part of wintry event in the south!! Rates will overcome all. We're good! Hopefully we do not get another cold March. Two of them in a row is enough. I'm hoping for a March like 2012. I'd take a March 2014 redux. It would help make this winter bearable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackerel_sky Posted January 20, 2015 Author Share Posted January 20, 2015 WTH is wrong with youngins these days? Formula messed them up!Breast feeding FTW ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaculaWeather Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 I'm with Eric on this one. I want to hear what "seasonable" is from a doctor. And not to take anything away from anyone with a doctorate... you have more desire than I did to get those degrees, but I work in the K-12 education side of things and have worked around more "doctors" than I care to count, and I've gotta say, I'm not impressed. And again, no offense to nwp nor is this directed toward him at all, but in the grand scheme of things, doctors have got to be some of the most stupid people I've ever met.I'm sure they know their specialty, but most of the ones I've met sure are missing a lot of common sense. So when people start throwing around the "I'm a doctor" line, a big red flag goes up for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeyefan1 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Formula messed them up! Breast feeding FTW ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jshetley Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Rates will overcome all. We're good! I'd take a March 2014 redux. It would help make this winter bearable. I'm glad we missed that ice storm down here. It's tough not having power for 2-3 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solak Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 It's going to snow soon. Bank in it! Remember that haircut deal I posted about? Well, The wife and I just got back from Great Clips, and our hair is so short we won't need another one until 'sweaty' weather! So, we're currently without our natural insulation from the cold and elements! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldman75 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 What does being a youngin have to do with anything? Just because he's younger and not just agreeing with someone for the sake of respect doesn't make him disrespectful. He's trying to make a point, prove him wrong or move on, but don't look down on him for debating weather on a weather forum because he doesn't have a degree yet vs someone that does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South_MountainWX Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Common scense is dead in America!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaculaWeather Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 What does being a youngin have to do with anything? Just because he's younger and not just agreeing with someone for the sake of respect doesn't make him disrespectful. He's trying to make a point, prove him wrong or move on, but don't look down on him for debating weather on a weather forum because he doesn't have a degree yet vs someone that does. Agreed. I can guarantee you that when it comes to weather, he can run circles around 90% of the people in this SE forum including myself. I see brilliance in this kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packbacker Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 LOL....Been gone for 2 hours and come to people dissecting how I referred to the next few days as "roasting". My goodness we need some snow, Webber ain't going to make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bsudweather Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Yea alot of people on here mods included, just can't stand the fact that this guy has forgot more about weather than they will ever know! Jealousy is bad thing!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webberweather53 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 I'm with Eric on this one. I want to hear what "seasonable" is from a doctor. And not to take anything away from anyone with a doctorate... you have more desire than I did to get those degrees, but I work in the K-12 education side of things and have worked around more "doctors" than I care to count, and I've gotta say, I'm not impressed. And again, no offense to nwp nor is this directed toward him at all, but in the grand scheme of things, doctors have got to be some of the most stupid people I've ever met.I'm sure they know their specialty, but most of the ones I've met sure are missing a lot of common sense. So when people start throwing around the "I'm a doctor" line, a big red flag goes up for me. An explanation could be perhaps this individual deals more so w/ longer term NWP or climate, hence their opinion on what is a "normal" temperature range appears appreciably smaller than ours. That being said, nwp & I have settled our disagreement & moved on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Agreed. I can guarantee you that when it comes to weather, he can run circles around 90% of the people in this SE forum including myself. I see brilliance in this kid. I see DT in this kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 It's one thing to know something. It's another thing entirely to communicate it. A degree doesn't make someone special...and neither does some pretty charts and graphs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frazdaddy Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 LOL....Been gone for 2 hours and come to people dissecting how I referred to the next few days as "roasting". My goodness we need some snow, Webber ain't going to make it. Yeah ...goin with Pack on this one. Manners and tact go a long way in this life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LithiaWx Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 It's one thing to know something. It's another thing entirely to communicate it. A degree doesn't make someone special...and neither does some pretty charts and graphs. Then wth do we have red tags? lol Also, A smart guy with no tact is not going to go far in life. The amount of self inflicted obstacles Webber will face in life is enormous. I kind of feel sorry for the guy. Lots of potential but will likely never realize much of it due to social awkwardness. You can't challenge every single thing every single person says. You end up with a result that isolates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillT Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 i see high intelligence in as you say "this kid" i also see great jealousy of him among those that hold power around here and their pals.......and it has been my experience some of the least intelligent folks i have met have "letters" behind their names......and some of the brightest folks i have met have almost no formal education. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaculaWeather Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Then wth do we have red tags? lol Also, A smart guy with no tact is not going to go far in life. The amount of self inflicted obstacles Webber will face in life is enormous. I kind of feel sorry for the guy. Lots of potential but will likely never realize much of it due to social awkwardness. You can't challenge every single thing every single person says. You end up with a result that isolates Let me see... how socially awkward were you as a sophomore in college? Or even now? Feel sorry? He's going to go on and be a well respected meteorologist, while we sit here and just jaw about weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackerel_sky Posted January 20, 2015 Author Share Posted January 20, 2015 It's one thing to know something. It's another thing entirely to communicate it. A degree doesn't make someone special...and neither does some pretty charts and graphs.I see Rainman! Great with numbers and stuff, loves some Kmart, and Wapner, just little lacking on social skills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Then wth do we have red tags? lol Also, A smart guy with no tact is not going to go far in life. The amount of self inflicted obstacles Webber will face in life is enormous. I kind of feel sorry for the guy. Lots of potential but will likely never realize much of it due to social awkwardness. You can't challenge every single thing every single person says. You end up with a result that isolates I have no idea, but I'll bet Webber and really most everyone on here is very nice in person and probably a lot of fun to be around. That's great. But the world writes. And if you only care about data and don't care about people and relationships and how you come across, it's going to come through in how you write. And those you're writing to will get the wrong impression of you personally or misinterpret your intent, neither of which helps the case you're making or your credibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalicwx366 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 So.... Is +5 seasonal or nah? I'm with Webber on this one. According to NWP, we are roasting here at 71 degrees then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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