BillT

did any model have snow tonight in western virginnia? seeing pictures from poung va. snow covered highway

a low is nearing the baja area throwing moisture north and east reaching almost to oklahoma and cold air is dropping south north of there

"but all the other studies have concluded the opposite. " i merely pointed out the ERROR in claiming the study made conclusions..........nothing needed to be explained to me.....

studies show the DATA, they make no "conclusions" people make the conclusions........

"all other things being equal" that sum up the POINT for me all things are NOT ever equal so your sides entire position is based on NON existent NON reality.......YOUR side is assigning a power to co2 that it simply does NOT have.

"A solar minimum is no match for the CO2 forcing"......that is the claim made that clearly is saying co2 is more powerful than the SUN.......

there it is the clear claim that the tiny amount of co2 in our air is more powerful than the SUN.........your side of this cant be believed on any level.

that is why i suggested no need for further discussion you are missing every point made, the POINT of my post was climate change has been a constant throughout history....i was in no way comparing todays climate details with those from billions of years ago ONLY that both had CHANGE as a constant

sorry but the trends have been ongoing for billions of years.......no need for further discussion.....

the climate is a statistical look at the PAST weather,it in no way causes any single event or pattern.....the weather causes changes in the climate stats, the climate causes no weather PERIOD.

since the climate is not a force and has never caused any weather event then NO weather event can be linked to climate change.....

the incoming is both short and long wave radiation, and there is NO balance never has been, thermodynamics means the system seeks to find balance but because factors constantly change that balance is never found.......

since there was more ice this past summer than in 2007 where is this continuing decline in the arctic sea ice please?????....also the greenhouse effect is an insulating effect, please name one insulator than adds extra heat to any system????? i ask because seems to me co2 in no way adds to the total heat in our atmosphere.

the climate is just a set of statistics, the average weather stats from the previous 30 years for a given area.......the climate is NOT a force, has no power and has never been the cause of any weather event........

when a person mentions "consensus science" as evidence they are admitting they know NOTHING about the most basic concepts of science......