powderfreak Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Your complaints will draw the ire of a larger percentage of the board. Yes. Simple mathematics. You're free to do as you wish, I'm just letting you know how it is. Let me go into the mid atl forum and wish this bad larry north....how do you think that would turn out? You could make a nne forum...all eight of you, knock yourselves out. Rough day at the office today? I just figured for the most part we were past some of that stuff as a New England forum...no one has any control over it (the weather), should be able to talk as desired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Your complaints will draw the ire of a larger percentage of the board. Yes. Simple mathematics. You're free to do as you wish, I'm just letting you know how it is. Let me go into the mid atl forum and wish this bad larry north....how do you think that would turn out? You could make a nne forum...all eight of you, knock yourselves out. Merry Christmas this fine winter morning Rey. Merry Christmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Well the problem is, this region is simply a product of haves vs have nots many times. Nothing we can do. It doesn't mean NNE can't cheer a track near the cancal or SNE a track near the BM. We are all sickos and all want snow. Naturally, one region will always be pissed off or disappointed. That's fine. But, nobody likes to hear people complain that snow buried only up to their bumper, instead of their door handles...especially those in areas that have had mediocre snows. That's more or less what it comes down to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Someone want to start a 2nd 1/2 of December thread? This one is at just about 3000 posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Your complaints will draw the ire of a larger percentage of the board. Yes. Simple mathematics. You're free to do as you wish, I'm just letting you know how it is. Let me go into the mid atl forum and wish this bad larry north....how do you think that would turn out? You could make a nne forum...all eight of you, knock yourselves out. Rough day at the office today? I just figured for the most part we were past some of that stuff as a New England forum...no one has any control over it (the weather), should be able to talk as desired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Merry Christmas this fine winter morning Rey. Merry Christmas I can't view that at work, Kev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Well the problem is, this region is simply a product of haves vs have nots many times. Nothing we can do. It doesn't mean NNE can't cheer a track near the cancal or SNE a track near the BM. We are all sickos and all want snow. Naturally, one region will always be pissed off or disappointed. That's fine. But, nobody likes to hear people complain that snow buried only up to their bumper, instead of their door handles...especially those in areas that have had mediocre snows. That's more or less what it comes down to. Exactly. It is what it is. Moving right along.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Thread started, Bobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 I wonder how one would even try to explain snow envy to their therapist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 I wonder how one would even try to explain snow envy to their therapist. It mirrors the "other" envy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Well the problem is, this region is simply a product of haves vs have nots many times. Nothing we can do. It doesn't mean NNE can't cheer a track near the cancal or SNE a track near the BM. We are all sickos and all want snow. Naturally, one region will always be pissed off or disappointed. That's fine. But, nobody likes to hear people complain that snow buried only up to their bumper, instead of their door handles...especially those in areas that have had mediocre snows. That's more or less what it comes down to. Yeah that's fair enough...good for all to consider. We all have complained our ways to big dumps before (be it another CT jackpot or ME or VT or whatever), the problem is folks often view their weather on a very local scale. But the forum covers some wide areas, so everyone in a storm thread is bound to here someone biatch if they got 5" in Burlington but 10" in Montpelier...or ORH got 10" and Bedford got 5". Folks are going to comment on it, either happy or disappointed. Other thing is that weather is certainly a "what have you done for me lately" hobby I guess...so even a few storms in a row in the same areas will certainly draw the ire of outside that area regardless of climo or previous experiences. I get that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Yeah it's off to a good start. After 4 of the last 5 years being under climo, hopefully we can get a good one up here (AND down there). Jspin climo or NWS climo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Not sure what climo snowfall for TAN is thru mid-Dec but at 5" thus far I'm sure it's well above normal based upon 38-40" seasonal total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Well the problem is, this region is simply a product of haves vs have nots many times. Nothing we can do. It doesn't mean NNE can't cheer a track near the cancal or SNE a track near the BM. We are all sickos and all want snow. Naturally, one region will always be pissed off or disappointed. That's fine. But, nobody likes to hear people complain that snow buried only up to their bumper, instead of their door handles...especially those in areas that have had mediocre snows. That's more or less what it comes down to. Except MPM land, no matter what the track is he never jackpots. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 I wonder how one would even try to explain snow envy to their therapist. Never quite understood it. I suppose everyone is envious of Sapporo. Might be because I grew up in SWRI and was often disappointed. Yea I am disappointed but it doesn't bother me if you get 30 inches while I rain. I know that is my climo. I also know that eventually usually I will make my 50 inch climo. Right now I think VT might have had the most beautiful snowstorm in years. Does not bother me in the least and am very happy those guys had the experience, mine will come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Never quite understood it. I suppose everyone is envious of Sapporo. Might be because I grew up in SWRI and was often disappointed. Yea I am disappointed but it doesn't bother me if you get 30 inches while I rain. I know that is my climo. I also know that eventually usually I will make my 50 inch climo. Right now I think VT might have had the most beautiful snowstorm in years. Does not bother me in the least and am very happy those guys had the experience, mine will come. A well stated, nice post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Jspin climo or NWS climo? This areas climo. 2010-2011 was above normal...including 09-10, the rest have been below normal. Though not by a far amount but the general opinion of skiers in NVT is that it's been years since a good strong winter snow season has happened. They all want 2010-2011 back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Never quite understood it. I suppose everyone is envious of Sapporo. Might be because I grew up in SWRI and was often disappointed. Yea I am disappointed but it doesn't bother me if you get 30 inches while I rain. I know that is my climo. I also know that eventually usually I will make my 50 inch climo. Right now I think VT might have had the most beautiful snowstorm in years. Does not bother me in the least and am very happy those guys had the experience, mine will come. You are very much one of the few on here that really get true satisfaction from events focused on other areas. I mean I like seeing you guys get bombed too...though maybe after 3 straight events I'd get antsy. I certainly wouldn't root for a complete whiff for all, if I couldn't get snow, haha. Though I get for eastern areas they feel like that because they don't want the rain instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 I've said this several times already, but just remember as the Pacific adjusts and reshuffles, cold gets shoved south into the Plains. Sorry for some folks, but that may mean messy storms that aren't snow. Think this low and potentiallly, 1 to maybe 2 after that. It might work out...I don't know, but keep that in mind. Transition storms as we say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 holy rime, Cannon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 You can see it really low on the Pittsburg NH website too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Really encouraging signs moving forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 It's December 15th and already folks are tired of us getting snow up here. It's not like it's February and it hasn't snowed anywhere else. Just think last year we smoked tailpipes until mid-Feb up here. We can regress a little to the mean now. Isn't SNE a little ahead of climo snow anyway for this date? Depends on the site, but for December they're all running well below the normals of 3-6" through this date. Climo gets skewed more and more every season, especially in December. I mean PWM is +6" on the season, is that really a snowfall surplus in the grand scheme? One storm and I could be 12" behind BDL. Likewise, the four climate sites in SNE could all easily eclipse their seasonal and monthly norms to date with one moderate snowfall. Everybody is doing just fine at this point in the season. In reality it is just the mountains that have seen anything appreciably different than about 0.50" liquid higher than climo to this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 holy rime, Cannon I love the fog in the Notch....that looks awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Just amazing meteorology going on in NNE today... I'm seeing photos from Killington to Jay of summits out of the inversion. What's really cool about it is... its 23F at 1,500ft at the office and pushing 38F now at 3,600ft. There's your inversion. In fact, the rime and snow is now falling off the trees up top its getting so warm. I saw MWN was one of the warmest spots in New England this morning... but the fact that it is +9C at H85, this would be a freakin' torch without this inversion. As it is the summits are about to torch this afternoon. But the valleys would be like 65F if we mixed this out. Here's the Stowe web cam right now... its actually going to look whiter with rime and snow below the inversion once this does mix out as the rime is starting to drop off the trees up high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Paul Gordon Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Good thing it's December and not Feb or March... a lot less mixing down with low sunlight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 The undercast is nuts. You can see the summits on visible too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 The undercast is nuts. You can see the summits on visible too. Yeah its just fascinating how lucky we are to be avoiding a full on torch right now. The H85 temps are quite warm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 4900ft on Whiteface Mountain in the Adirondacks is 45F right now. SLK is 27F. Mix that warmth down dry adiabatically and most of the lower elevations would be in the 60s up here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Paul Gordon Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Why are the 850s so high right now? Is this part of the big warm up out in the plains and midwest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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