dendrite Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 yes, but no getting around it, it was a low dew cooler than normal feel all summer, just perfect Meh...it was near normal at most sites. And do you have stats to back up your below normal dew claim? I'm not claiming it wasn't, but it felt near normal to me...mostly dews in the 50s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Meh...it was near normal at most sites. And do you have stats to back up your below normal dew claim? I'm not claiming it wasn't, but it felt near normal to me...mostly dews in the 50s. I used the custom climo data on WU to find the avg dews at various sites for the period 6/1/2014-8/31/2014. BDR 61F BDL 59F PVD 59F BOS 58F PWM 58F ORH 57F CON 57F BTV 57F CAR 56F Finding normal/average dewpoint data is difficult so I'll leave that up to someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Meh...it was near normal at most sites. And do you have stats to back up your below normal dew claim? I'm not claiming it wasn't, but it felt near normal to me...mostly dews in the 50s.Concord in 2014,CDDs ranked 21st least in 76 years reflecting coolness of summer with 328 CDDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman21 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 I used the custom climo data on WU to find the avg dews at various sites for the period 6/1/2014-8/31/2014. BDR 61F BDL 59F PVD 59F BOS 58F PWM 58F ORH 57F CON 57F BTV 57F CAR 56F Finding normal/average dewpoint data is difficult so I'll leave that up to someone else. Based on the 1981-2010 normals, if you average the hourly normal dew points for the entire summer you get: BDL 59.5 BDR 61.4 BOS 59.4 BTV 57.0 CAR 54.0 CON 57.3 ORH 57.3 PVD 60.2 PWM 57.4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Concord in 2014,CDDs ranked 21st least in 76 years reflecting coolness of summer with 328 CDDs Steve...I'm not denying slightly below due to the BN August. I'm just calling -0.5F to +0.5F near normal. We haven't done a -1.0F or colder JJA since 2009. That's all I'm saying. I agree about the no big heat too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 so it was a tiny bit drier It was def not a furnace in this area 87.3 for the yearly high. Most are prob just used to the circle of fire of the last few summers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Based on the 1981-2010 normals, if you average the hourly normal dew points for the entire summer you get: BDL 59.5 BDR 61.4 BOS 59.4 BTV 57.0 CAR 54.0 CON 57.3 ORH 57.3 PVD 60.2 PWM 57.4 If you average the departures out it looks like we made par. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Very cool sunset here attm Golden sky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Well those are how we can compare one summer to the next...I know you love your colder than normal Ginxy . Glad you got one that felt colder than it was too.there are more statistics than temp, energy use for cooling was below normal, I know that for sure. My stats at work show bottom 1/3 rd of consumption, CDDs stats concur, also we dehumidify with cooling so lower dews also reduced consumption, not to mention every body in SNE mentioned the lack of extended heat. No 90s in ORH, none in ECT for example. So bottom line is being near normal tempwise did not reflect the true value. Certainly not abnormally cool but definitely not the norm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Steve...I'm not denying slightly below due to the BN August. I'm just calling -0.5F to +0.5F near normal. We haven't done a -1.0F or colder JJA since 2009. That's all I'm saying. I agree about the no big heat too.concur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 there are more statistics than temp, energy use for cooling was below normal, I know that for sure. My stats at work show bottom 1/3 rd of consumption, CDDs stats concur, also we dehumidify with cooling so lower dews also reduced consumption, not to mention every body in SNE mentioned the lack of extended heat. No 90s in ORH, none in ECT for example. So bottom line is being near normal tempwise did not reflect the true value. Certainly not abnormally cool but definitely not the norm.Did you just use energy usage to rebut actual temperature in order to argue how cool it was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Meh...it was near normal at most sites. And do you have stats to back up your below normal dew claim? I'm not claiming it wasn't, but it felt near normal to me...mostly dews in the 50s. I still think the record high dews last year skewed the overall feel of this summer...it felt great but probably more of what it should be like, given our stretch of hotter than normal summers lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 So bottom line is being near normal tempwise did not reflect the true value. Certainly not abnormally cool but definitely not the norm.I don't get that to be honest...it was not abnormally cool, but yet it definitely wasn't normal? We'll have to agree to disagree. I'm like Dendrite, not trying to say it was warm, just that I think it's in the realm of what our normal summers should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Did you just use energy usage to rebut actual temperature in order to argue how cool it was?do you understand entropy? Evaporative cooling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Torch!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 I don't get that to be honest...it was not abnormally cool, but yet it definitely wasn't normal? We'll have to agree to disagree. I'm like Dendrite, not trying to say it was warm, just that I think it's in the realm of what our normal summers should be. I guess if your memory is only good one summer at a time. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Torch!!muggy muggy muggy night, feels tropical on this the anniversary of the big one. Happy real fall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 It was just a little bit cooker than a 30 year norm We are used to AN. BSE II and all that jazz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 muggy muggy muggy night, feels tropical on this the anniversary of the big one. Happy real fallWe had fall in summer now summer in fall for 3-5 weeks. Seasons not performing correctly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 We had fall in summer now summer in fall for 3-5 weeks. Seasons not performing correctlyWe remember the first 9 days of October torch of last year and relax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 We had fall in summer now summer in fall for 3-5 weeks. Seasons not performing correctly Trick or treating in banana hammocks this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 I guess if your memory is only good one summer at a time. Lol lol ok Steve. Dews and temps generally within a half a degree of normal over three months. Interpret that as you may. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 lol ok Steve. Dews and temps generally within a half a degree of normal over three months. Interpret that as you may.bottom 1/3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Oy vey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Oy vey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 It was nice to get a normal summer for once. 90/70 all summer isn't our climo....remember last summer was a record warmth in July. You can't expect those recent hot summers of +4F to be the new average. This summer was within the normal range. Not arguing the fact that it was a near normal or average summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 A downpour. What is this liquid falling from the sky? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 CON and PWM had below normal CDD, but they had below normal HDD for JJA too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Congrats on 1-2 Scoots. You deserve it after all the dry topsoil complaints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Did Forky go to the big climate change march in NYC? I'm sure he led the March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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