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NNE Thread: Heading into the Heart of Winter


powderfreak

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Checking out the Dew tour?

I was thinking about going, but no way I'm standing around in below 0

We had unofficial -30ºF's in the valleys around Bridgton and Harrison, ME (Bolsters Mills chasing -40ºF IIRC, among others) about 16-18 years ago.

Many were the warped heads, blown gaskets, and broken wallets in these parts.

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We had unofficial -30ºF's in the valleys around Bridgton and Harrison, ME (Bolsters Mills chasing -40ºF IIRC, among others) about 16-18 years ago.

Many were the warped heads, blown gaskets, and broken wallets in these parts.

Must be January, 1994, when Farmington set its all time coldest with -39 and CAR had its only month that averaged below zero. I only had -25 in Gardiner, Maine amidst the pines. If I'd been living at my current frost pocket location, the bottom would've been something like -42.

Updated forecaast has MBY under WWA for 4-6" of broom snow. GYX snow tool shows east edge of its CWA at close to 10" (near Penobscot Bay.) Haven't seen the new CAR forecasts, but could imagine coastal Hancock/Washington at 10-14" if ROK is progged for 9+.

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Must be January, 1994, when Farmington set its all time coldest with -39 and CAR had its only month that averaged below zero. I only had -25 in Gardiner, Maine amidst the pines. If I'd been living at my current frost pocket location, the bottom would've been something like -42.

My otherwise bullet-proof Dodge Colt Vista fell, and did not rise... :cry:

That was pre-cellphone, and thank God I had the 2 meter rig in the car, or they would be thawing me out on the Discovery Channel, and not some mastodon.

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Must be January, 1994, when Farmington set its all time coldest with -39 and CAR had its only month that averaged below zero. I only had -25 in Gardiner, Maine amidst the pines. If I'd been living at my current frost pocket location, the bottom would've been something like -42.

This is what that stretch looked like at Concord. Portland's numbers aren't that impressive (no Gray numbers -- they moved there the next year):

YYYYMMDD hi low precip snow

19940111 22 -10 .00 0.0

19940112 25 2 .10 2.0

19940113 36 23 .01 0.1

19940114 32 17 .06 0.4

19940115 18 -5 .00 0.0

19940116 1 -13 .00 0.0

19940117 28 -4 .67 3.3

19940118 28 -2 .52 7.7

19940119 6 -21 T T

19940120 11 -28 T T

19940121 18 -25 .00 0.0

19940122 25 1 T 0.2

19940123 10 -6 .02 0.5

19940124 37 8 T T

19940125 26 2 .00 0.0

19940126 13 -9 .03 0.8

19940127 13 -27 .01 0.3

19940128 45 7 1.09 4.1

19940129 44 21 .00 0.0

19940130 21 -5 .00 0.0

19940131 25 -7 T T

February 1994

Date TMAX TMIN PREC SNOW

19940201 22 -9 .00 0.0

19940202 23 -15 .00 0.0

19940203 28 -13 T T

19940204 25 -6 T T

19940205 32 -6 .00 0.0

19940206 31 11 .00 0.0

19940207 32 2 .00 0.0

19940208 8 -5 .03 0.5

19940209 9 3 .26 7.5

19940210 13 -11 T T

19940211 16 -12 .02 0.6

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Event totals: 6.5” Snow/0.63” L.E.

Thursday 1/20/2011 6:00 P.M. update: We picked up another 0.2 inches of snow today and a trace of liquid, and this will be the final entry for the midweek event. We are under a winter weather advisory for the next event, which is expected to start late tonight.

Some details from the 6:00 P.M. observations are below:

New Snow: 0.2 inches

New Liquid: Trace

Temperature: 17.1 F

Sky: Cloudy

Snow at the stake: 18.0 inches

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hey powderfreak

i was wondering if you were gonna up the ante at the resort as far as snow measuring goes. wondered for some time why northern VT resorts haven't gotten more technical/precise with their snow measuring like a lot of western resorts. likely, marketing plays a role. jay loves optimism, sometimes overly so. and smuggs underplays, or at least places low priority on snow reporting (they have a niche locked in with their resort profile, and big snowfall numbers take a backseat in their marketing it seems).

you must have daily data on snowfall amounts, elevation, etc. but it's not on the website. Jay graphs their snowfall daily snowfall amounts over the season, and i imagine you folks at stowe are, likel,y more specific and stringent with your reporting- not saying anything about jay, but objectivity is pretty hard to come by without standard snow stations (like, for instance, jackson hole- they have several snotel stations on the mountain that do auto-reporting). not that snotel is gonna happen here in the east, but several objective measurement stations at different elevations, replete with all data fields over time, would be great!

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17.6" with 2.5" new snow from 0.15" water equiv as of 6am. I can't wait for the cold this weekend. :thumbsup:

Hey good morning. Actually down in Mass this am, driving home later. radar looks like steady light snow up there....hopefully some of that heavier banding to the sw can move up, but I would think it would more likely consolidate down in ema. But hey there should be at least 3-4 new inches in the winter that keeps on giving. Over under for Sun and Mond nights is -18

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17.6" with 2.5" new snow from 0.15" water equiv as of 6am. I can't wait for the cold this weekend. :thumbsup:

that cold is going to la-la-la-lock up our snowpack for a long time. was out on the sled last night, and the snow that fell the other day was rock hard. :bike:

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Event totals: 0.8” Snow/0.08” L.E.

Friday 1/21/2011 6:00 A.M. update: At our location along the Waterbury/Bolton line we had 0.8 inches of new snow this morning as of 6:00 A.M. observation time. The snowflakes were all very small, ~1 mm or less, and the snow came in right at 10% H2O (10 to 1 ratio). I can’t tell how much snow they’ve picked up in Burlington, but I would guess not quite as much because the snowfall, while coming down, is notably less intense than what I saw at home.

Of interest for our area in terms of snowfall is that we are now very close to hitting 100 inches of snow for the season, and since we are only an inch and half away it’s possible we could make it there with this system. I just ran the numbers, and based on my data, the average date for reaching 100 inches here is February 7th. We are still 17 days ahead of that date, so certainly ahead of average for snowfall. For comparison with other La Niña seasons, in the ’07-’08 season we reached 100 inches on January 14th, and in ’08-’09 it was January 11th, so we are actually not too far off the pace of those two respectable seasons considering we’ve not yet had a big synoptic storm really hit this area.

On that note, in his morning broadcast, Roger Hill indicated that there is the chance for another synoptic storm in the middle of next week after the cold spell, and I see that the guys are talking about it in the pattern thread.

Some details from the 6:00 A.M. observations are below:

New Snow: 0.8 inches

New Liquid: 0.08 inches

Snow/Water Ratio: 10.0

Snow Density: 10.0%

Temperature: 17.2 F

Sky: Light Snow (1 mm flakes)

Snow at the stake: 18.5 inches

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Event totals: 0.8” Snow/0.08” L.E.

Some details from the 6:00 A.M. observations are below:

New Snow: 0.8 inches

New Liquid: 0.08 inches

Snow/Water Ratio: 10.0

Snow Density: 10.0%

Temperature: 17.2 F

Sky: Heavy Snow (1 mm flakes)

Snow at the stake: 18.5 inches

Yeah the synoptic portion of these events always gets old quickly, haha. As of 8am here in Stowe it looks like we've got around an inch.

I already know what'll happen... we'll get 1-2" on .1-.2" of QPF, then this afternoon or tonight out of nowhere we'll pull 3" of upslope on a trace amount of liquid. We may end up with similar amounts to some people further south and east when all is said and done, but the actual liquid added to the snowpack will be like a third.

I'm getting antsy for a 1"+ QPF event up here, lol. Still, I shouldn't complain because we seem to be doing quite well for a lack of synoptic storm hits.

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Yeah the synoptic portion of these events always gets old quickly, haha. As of 8am here in Stowe it looks like we've got around an inch.

I already know what'll happen... we'll get 1-2" on .1-.2" of QPF, then this afternoon or tonight out of nowhere we'll pull 3" of upslope on a trace amount of liquid. We may end up with similar amounts to some people further south and east when all is said and done, but the actual liquid added to the snowpack will be like a third.

I'm getting antsy for a 1"+ QPF event up here, lol. Still, I shouldn't complain because we seem to be doing quite well for a lack of synoptic storm hits.

It seems its the year of hero snow Scott

Wed was the first ski day "on" the snow instead of "in" the snow, but it adhered nicely to steeper terrain

Snowing nicley now, small flakes, but steady.

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Had 1.0" of 20:1 fluff as I left the house this morning, 1.2" in AUG when I got here. It's been -SN with occ SN (such as right now - visibility under 1/2 mile) so there's probably 2" of new here.

Sure is fun looking at models now, cold blast for Sun-Mon (I expect 25-30 below Mon morn with highs near zero both days) and a potential monster Wed-Thurs (1.75" all-snow qpf for AUG), though D5-6 is not the best time to be an a model's bullseye.

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