stormtracker Posted January 22, 2014 Author Share Posted January 22, 2014 Mesonistic got around 6.25" in Tenleytown. you might have gotten 5.5"...If you bumped up to 5.25", I think it would be accurate. My friend got 5.25" near Petworth and DC teacherman got around 5" in Petworth......at around 200'...you're at just over 200' also , but I think you do a little better on the west side of the park...so 5.25" seems right. I got 4.5" on my roof and on the ground. But there is no question I get more latent heat release than you, and don't do as well during the day. EDIT - another friend got around 4.5" in Brookland..and 4.5" NNW of Takoma Park. I doubt anybody got 7" around here...even 6 is kinda stretching it. I usually do as well as Ian, so I let him do my dirty work and just copy his measurements. I actually measured last night and came up with 5.5, but that seems high to me. I've always lowballed my estimates to match official measurements if I'm high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow. Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 My main thought is a lot of people measure in the grass even though NWS says not to. I think that is a big part of the differing numbers. I prob did get more than .5" in that superband though so I may be low. Not sure if it helps but here are my measurements 5:15 - 2.75" 6:15 - 3.0" 7:15 - 3.75" Around 8:30 - 9:00 - 4.5" final Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow. Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 I doubt anybody got 7" around here...even 6 is kinda stretching it. I usually do as well as Ian, so I let him do my dirty work and just copy his measurements. I actually measured last night and came up with 5.5, but that seems high to me. I've always lowballed my estimates to match official measurements if I'm high. you got 5"...Ian got 5.25"...I can tell you that without even being there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeRedheads Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 I am 5 miles east of IAD as well and measured 5.5". I was thinking IAD got under some death band that missed here, but given the precip something is really off in their reporting. You and I are within a few miles of each other and I measured 5" at 7:40 pm. I did see this on the NWS site regarding the observed reports at the airports: These data are preliminary and have not undergone final quality control by the National Climatic Data Center (NCDC). Therefore, these data are subject to revision. Final and certified climate data can be accessed at the NCDC - http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov. According to NWS observations page (http://w1.weather.gov/obhistory/KIAD.html ) we never had heavy snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astarck Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Think he busted pretty hard on the southern end in VA and lower MD eastern shore. It wouldn't have been so bad if he didn't spend 24 hours proclaiming he was the greatest forecaster of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 you got 5"...Ian got 5.25"...I can tell you that without even being there yeah you're probably right. i am tempted to go with 5.25" but I dunno if it matters. i should prob do a smidge better than Randy in an all things being equal scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoVaSnow Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 It wouldn't have been so bad if he didn't spend 24 hours years proclaiming he was the greatest forecaster of all time. Fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midatlanticweather Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Fixed. I tell ya though, he can sniff out the pattern pretty darn well. Every time he hints at an east coast storm he seems to be able to see it, but his short range skills are very poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtracker Posted January 22, 2014 Author Share Posted January 22, 2014 you got 5"...Ian got 5.25"...I can tell you that without even being there lol, if you say so. Don't care, we got a legit snow, dude! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlizzardNole Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Interesting reading about these reports -- I was curious about this one from St Marys County: 2 W CALIFORNIA 7.8 806 AM 1/22 TRAINED SPOTTER My sister lives very near there and she said no way, more like 3". Plus I noticed Calvert went from around 5" in the north to 3" in the south. Then I saw that post pointing to the list of Cocorah only reports at the bottom of the Pub Info Statement, and those amounts look much more reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 000SXUS71 KLWX 221536 RERBWI RECORD EVENT REPORT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BALTIMORE MD/WASHINGTON DC 1233 AM EST WED JAN 22 2014 ...RECORD DAILY MAXIMUM SNOWFALL SET AT BALTIMORE MD... A RECORD SNOWFALL OF 5.1 INCHES WAS SET AT BALTIMORE MD YESTERDAY. THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 2 INCHES SET IN 1982. Posted this for archival purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 I have a hard time believing BWI only got 5.1 Didn't most people around there get at least 6"? My parents got 8" in Pasadena, which isn't too far from BWI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow. Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 yeah you're probably right. i am tempted to go with 5.25" but I dunno if it matters. i should prob do a smidge better than Randy in an all things being equal scenario. yes..in a storm this size..yes....about 15% of the time I do worse than DCA, but it is always south and east events or events where they get under a heavier band. They did better than me on 12/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usedtobe Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Interesting reading about these reports -- I was curious about this one from St Marys County: 2 W CALIFORNIA 7.8 806 AM 1/22 TRAINED SPOTTER My sister lives very near there and she said no way, more like 3". Plus I noticed Calvert went from around 5" in the north to 3" in the south. Then I saw that post pointing to the list of Cocorah only reports at the bottom of the Pub Info Statement, and those amounts look much more reasonable. There is always one guy who has really inflated numbers from California. Same thing happened with the 2/6/10 storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow. Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 I have a hard time believing BWI only got 5.1 Didn't most people around there get at least 6"? My parents got 8" in Pasadena, which isn't too far from BWI. i htink they got 5.3?...could be tweaked but I doubt it...here are some good pro measurments for fairly close by ...seems like a reasonable total..maybe a tad low 2 NNE CROFTON 5.5 647 AM 1/22 NWS EMPLOYEE 3 E LAUREL 6.6 700 AM 1/22 COCORAHS1 SE PASADENA 6.0 700 AM 1/22 COCORAHS 3 ESE PASADENA 6.0 800 AM 1/22 COCORAHS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 OK my melted liquid is 0.53"..... 10.75 inches of snow....so 21:1 ratios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 OK my melted liquid is 0.53"..... 10.75 inches of snow....so 21:1 ratios. Nice. I think that's reasonable given your location away from the suburban/urban corridor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowfan Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 There was also an NWS employee report from Odenton for 7 inches and that's no further away from BWI than Crofton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Nice. I think that's reasonable given your location away from the suburban/urban corridor. I meant to write 0.52 liquid not .53. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vogan Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 DT's on FB honking about the mega-ratios up and down the 95 corridor. 3. THE snow ratios up north were AMAZING. THROUGH 12AM newark NJ only got 0.40" of liquid and 10 of snow.. a snow ratio of 40:1. LaGuardia in NYC 0.25 liquid 8.1 " snow for a snow ratio of 32:1 ISLIP long Island 0.46" with 9.2" for a snow ratio of 20:1... Bridgeport CT got 0.21" with amounts of 5.5" for a snow ratio of 26:1 Anything over 20:1 is probably bogus IMO. Wind certainly can screw with getting snow into the precip gauge and that's likely what happened yesterday. Northern neighbor here from Lancaster Co Pa. I received 5" of snow from .43" of liquid which is about 12:1 I was expecting a better ratio but it is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow. Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 There was also an NWS employee report from Odenton for 7 inches and that's no further away from BWI than Crofton. you're right I missed that....It was dropped from the lastest PNS. what did you measure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 8-10" is a little off... should be some 10-12" over in Frederick/Westminster... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 One relatively recent practice that I do like in their last PNS for an event is that they now separate out the 24-hr Cocorahs totals in a list under the spotter list. It's easier to scan the "higher quality" reports. Really like this. On the LWX site they separate them in map form too, which makes it actually readable. DT's on FB honking about the mega-ratios up and down the 95 corridor. 3. THE snow ratios up north were AMAZING. THROUGH 12AM newark NJ only got 0.40" of liquid and 10 of snow.. a snow ratio of 40:1. LaGuardia in NYC 0.25 liquid 8.1 " snow for a snow ratio of 32:1 ISLIP long Island 0.46" with 9.2" for a snow ratio of 20:1... Bridgeport CT got 0.21" with amounts of 5.5" for a snow ratio of 26:1 Anything over 20:1 is probably bogus IMO. Wind certainly can screw with getting snow into the precip gauge and that's likely what happened yesterday. Awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Looks like the models did a pretty good job with the precip distribution based on that snow map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 8-10" is a little off... should be some 10-12" over in Frederick/Westminster... yep, for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Two different people in lucketts measured a foot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecosense Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 6.8" total in Glen Rock,PA I was just northwest of the powerband. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 For Loudoun County, this is our 6th 3 plus inch snowfall since last March 2 in March 2 in December 2 in January Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow. Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 For Loudoun County, this is our 6th 3 plus inch snowfall since last March 2 in March 2 in December 2 in January Hopefully we get a real snowstorm soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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