Wmsptwx Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 27.8 imby..frozen tiny sleet pellets and freezing drizzle not picked up on radar. Checked obs in Ohio several reporting light rain with no returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick G Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Light fr here. It looks like 3 inches on the deck. Roads are messy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Any very preliminary thoughts for next week? Models are starting to latch onto a system roughly around next Monday. Given the blocking, looks like a case of seeing how far north we can get this possible storm to come. Most of the majors like the Euro/GGEM are far enough south to not involve PA too much currently..or at all really. The GFS on the other hand is much further north and does affect PA and it would be snow. The 12z run mainly targeted southern PA while the 18z run straight up bombed all of PA. It'll be something to watch as the week wears on, there will definitely be cold air available if we have a storm to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawatch Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Out for one last measurement. 3.3" pretty happy how we have added to the snow total this last week. Good to see some of the southern gang getting some snow. 2001kx thought you would have done a lot better. Edit: Mag thank you for the update for this next storm!! Always like reading your thoughts on what could happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted March 19, 2013 Author Share Posted March 19, 2013 NYC overperformed again, I think they got more snow than us. How the f**k do they get so lucky?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PennMan Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 I'm north of Scranton for work...maybe 2.5" on the ground here. My parents report almost 4" in eastern Lebanon County. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawatch Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 I'm north of Scranton for work...maybe 2.5" on the ground here. My parents report almost 4" in eastern Lebanon County. Penn most of the time that would be a good spot for snow. Could be tricky driving for you in the am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 NYC overperformed again, I think they got more snow than us. How the f**k do they get so lucky?? If it makes you feel any better, I had the pleasure of having an inch or so on the ground, driving snow that on a dime turned to sleet and then rain in 15 minutes. Now what's left of what I got is melting away fast and by morning I'm guaranteed to just have brown grass (the grass and most of our trees on the immediate shore on Long Island where I am was killed by Sandy's storm surge and salt water killing the vegetation). 20 miles or so north and west of me had double/triple the snow I got. And the snow came at the worst time for me, since my train got stuck for 45 minutes on an "equipment failure" out of Manhattan back to my town as the snow started coming down at rush hour. Not the greatest of commutes for me. At least you guys don't have to worry about a driving rain induced melt-off and at least the freezing rain and sleet weren't too big a deal like it was in many of my days up at PSU. Trust me though, when the time comes that you guys get crushed in a mammoth blizzard and us on I-95 have to suffer through a drencher, I'll be the first one rooting it on. You guys deserve it after all this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001kx Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Out for one last measurement. 3.3" pretty happy how we have added to the snow total this last week. Good to see some of the southern gang getting some snow. 2001kx thought you would have done a lot better. Edit: Mag thank you for the update for this next storm!! Always like reading your thoughts on what could happen. it is what it is...not a big deal. we did good over the weekend so its a push Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted March 19, 2013 Author Share Posted March 19, 2013 Nah jm, of the posters in that sh*tstorm of a forum, you're one of the few I'd like to see get good snows; especially as you had a good bit of suffering yourself in your C PA days. The rest of those weenies who cry enough and post enough weenie maps so Mommy (Nature) will get them what they want can shove off. Seriously, them whining over forecasts back on the 8 February storm getting cut to "just" 8-12" was one of the most absurd, over-the-top things I've ever seen through being on EUSWX/AmWx for 5+ years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Nah jm, of the posters in that sh*tstorm of a forum, you're one of the few I'd like to see get good snows; especially as you had a good bit of suffering yourself in your C PA days. The rest of those weenies who cry enough and post enough weenie maps so Mommy (Nature) will get them what they want can shove off. Arrggghh One of the reasons I'm posting again here these days. Our posters tell each other to jump off bridges and we're golden like you've been saying (and we really are, in the late 1990s we had a stretch of under 20" winters). We have some good-great posters but we also have some who honestly would have been better off had their kindergarten teacher held them back a few times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Tonights Euro is much further north with the storm at the beginning of next week. Looks similar to the Mon 12z GFS getting some moderate snows into the southern half of PA. GGEM similar to Euro. 0z GFS still seems the furthest north of the bunch. Hell the NOGAPs (now the NAVGEM) had a big coastal storm and associated snowstorm for PA. All these models have a miller B evolution with this system. So a good strong signal for a storm, but you know the drill with confidence on hashing out the details the next several days. Just for fun the Euro at 240 was lining up another coastal storm lol. At no point did it really warm up that much in those 240 hours. March might end up the most truly wintry month of the whole winter at this rate. Thurs/Fri morning still look very cold in the true central. Def teens for sure one or both nights.. an ideal radiational cooling night with some snowpack left might take temps into single numbers in spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djr5001 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 ended up with 2.6" as greatest depth before changing over to a light drizzle late last night that started to melt and compact things... rain guage melted had .53" liquid... now 18.9" on season with this being 3rd biggest daily total... MDT reported 2.3" on .54" liquid... highest for them since late December making it 2nd highest daily total for season... Have also now dropped to -1.4 degrees below normal for the month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Jm you are one of the best posters here. We refer to the guys saying 19 inches of snow is pedestrian as the idiots. That is the most single storm snow we have had in 50 years lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Nah jm, of the posters in that sh*tstorm of a forum, you're one of the few I'd like to see get good snows; especially as you had a good bit of suffering yourself in your C PA days. The rest of those weenies who cry enough and post enough weenie maps so Mommy (Nature) will get them what they want can shove off. Seriously, them whining over forecasts back on the 8 February storm getting cut to "just" 8-12" was one of the most absurd, over-the-top things I've ever seen through being on EUSWX/AmWx for 5+ years. Yeah, it's sort of creepy. Tonights Euro is much further north with the storm at the beginning of next week. Looks similar to the Mon 12z GFS getting some moderate snows into the southern half of PA. GGEM similar to Euro. 0z GFS still seems the furthest north of the bunch. Hell the NOGAPs (now the NAVGEM) had a big coastal storm and associated snowstorm for PA. All these models have a miller B evolution with this system. So a good strong signal for a storm, but you know the drill with confidence on hashing out the details the next several days. Just for fun the Euro at 240 was lining up another coastal storm lol. At no point did it really warm up that much in those 240 hours. March might end up the most truly wintry month of the whole winter at this rate. Thurs/Fri morning still look very cold in the true central. Def teens for sure one or both nights.. an ideal radiational cooling night with some snowpack left might take temps into single numbers in spots. No kidding, wonder how much snow UNV/AOO/IPT will end up with? Jm you are one of the best posters here. We refer to the guys saying 19 inches of snow is pedestrian as the idiots. That is the most single storm snow we have had in 50 years lol. Agreed. Also agree with your earlier post about compact time with these storms this year. The other thing that we've had is less sleet/ice than expected with storms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Days like today make me miss last March, slushy mess out there. Any signs of at least 50ish and sunny? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Nah jm, of the posters in that sh*tstorm of a forum, you're one of the few I'd like to see get good snows; especially as you had a good bit of suffering yourself in your C PA days. The rest of those weenies who cry enough and post enough weenie maps so Mommy (Nature) will get them what they want can shove off. Seriously, them whining over forecasts back on the 8 February storm getting cut to "just" 8-12" was one of the most absurd, over-the-top things I've ever seen through being on EUSWX/AmWx for 5+ years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Lol...now the snowiest subforum in new england has infighting about totals and snow compaction hahaha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Lol...now the snowiest subforum in new england has infighting about totals and snow compaction hahaha. I think becasue some thought they would be the big winner and they weren't this time around. Oh well, its just weather, we can't control it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Jm you are one of the best posters here. We refer to the guys saying 19 inches of snow is pedestrian as the idiots. That is the most single storm snow we have had in 50 years lol. Thanks guys. Central PA's time has to be coming again soon, and it hasn't been an awful winter for most this year. NYC got more snow than State College in 4 of the 5 years I lived there and we average here a little more than half of State College, so you guys are certainly overdue for a monster winter or two. I wonder what the liquid equivalents for the snow/ice yesterday were? The snowgrowth was awful but there couldn't have been close to the 0.75-1" or more liquid that models printed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 No man I had .4 maybe prbly .35. Not sure what went wrong there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Thanks guys. Central PA's time has to be coming again soon, and it hasn't been an awful winter for most this year. NYC got more snow than State College in 4 of the 5 years I lived there and we average here a little more than half of State College, so you guys are certainly overdue for a monster winter or two. I wonder what the liquid equivalents for the snow/ice yesterday were? The snowgrowth was awful but there couldn't have been close to the 0.75-1" or more liquid that models printed out. UNV is ahead of NYC this year. UNV hasn't included the official number from yesterday but it should put us about 6 or so below normal. Looking ahead, normal is certainly doable. Edit: Last 10 years of snow previous to this year at NYC Central Park: 345.5 Last 10 years of snow previous to this year at UNV: 432.0 UNV has 20% more. Normally, UNV should get about 40% more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itunis Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 12Z GFS looks pretty warm to my untrained eye, decent precip up this way though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 NYC overperformed again, I think they got more snow than us. How the f**k do they get so lucky?? 41N FTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 12Z GFS looks pretty warm to my untrained eye, decent precip up this way though. And then the 12Z Euro takes the storm out to sea. Another Euro vs. GFS showdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Its pretty awesome outside right, Sun out, 48! Edit- and no wind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Its pretty awesome outside right, Sun out, 48! Edit- and no wind! Sounds like a monsoon with all the melting snow/ice too downtown. I ended up with right around 3" yesterday for my best guess. What'd you write for your total? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Very nice out today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 The few inches of snowpack hung in there fairly well today (outside of the parts of the yard that see the direct sun all day) considering the sunny and breezy day... probably a testament to the moisture laden nature of yesterdays snowfall and bit of sleet/ice on top. I would imagine we were pretty close ratio-wise to that MDT melted total of 0.54 off of 2.3" of snow. Thats good for a horrendous 4.25:1 ratio... or not very much better than a ratio you'd have for a straight up sleet storm (3:1ish). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick G Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 We have had some interesting weather today. It would snow, then rain, then sleet and the stop. This was while the sun was up and the sky was partly to mostly cloudy. Wait 5 minutes and it would happen agsin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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