Wmsptwx Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Wow...Are you taking the NAM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 No I am not taking the NAM but the GFS also gives a nice hit not as much QPF of course but most trends are we are getting some sort of storm. I like Eastern's amounts he has right now. This could be our biggest storm at MDT in a long while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Wow...Are you taking the NAM? Ggem/Gfs ens mix for now. Was a good mix last storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted March 22, 2013 Author Share Posted March 22, 2013 4/15 would be perfect timing for the block to let up...I have an ugly academic period in at least the first 10 days of the month that probably will keep me in a lot anyway. Now watch...4/1-10 will have 60s and 70s and then 4/15+ will have 40s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Im getting confident for your area(easternuswx) and locales south and west will do well, but not sold that unv, ipt or mdt do real well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cashtown_Coop Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 I love winter and love snow but being a superintendent of a golf course I'm ready for spring. I have many projects to complete before summer. I checked my records and found that we are 16 degrees colder so far this year compared to last for avg high temps in march Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djr5001 Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 I love winter and love snow but being a superintendent of a golf course I'm ready for spring. I have many projects to complete before summer. I checked my records and found that we are 16 degrees colder so far this year compared to last for avg high temps in march speaking of avg temps... I was looking at data for Harrisburg for last 50 years... March 2012 was warmest for average temperature at 50.7 degrees... as of today 2013 is at 38.1 degrees... only 5 years were colder over last 50 and those being March 1984, 1993, 1970, 1965, 1996... three other years equaled 38.1 for the month and those were 2005, 2001, and 1994 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Lol Cashtown you are in the bullseye of another one. I am very sick of this weather, havent gotten anything done in the yard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 You could be right about both. I seem to recall a 20" snowfall on Easter back in the late '60s at UNV. It was gone in 2 days. Although my recollection could be off on both amount and date. It was, after all, the 60's and I was attending PSU. Heard about that as well. Also heard about a snow sometime in the 80s during graduation week. People showed up from out of town in short sleeved shirts and sun dresses and were miserable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllWeather Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Feeling more confident in this upcoming storm at seeing some sort of widespread accumulating snowfall across the Commonwealth. However, this storm isn't a powerhouse, and won't be generating insane QPF amounts, so the snow amounts we do see will likely be on the lighter (nuisance) side of things. With regards to the backside lake-enhanced snow, I can't speak for that since it's typically a wild card, but it'll likely be the typical places seeing the LE snows on the backside of the system. Here's what this storm has going for it (if you're a snow-lover): - Cold 850 temps...In fact, the 850's get colder throughout the progression of the storm as upper-level heights fall on the backside of the system. - Night arrival...Looks like it could start as early as late Sunday night and overspread all of the folks in this forum by daybreak. - Won't have to worry about dynamically-driven change to snow...Due to the cold air in place, the nighttime arrival, and heights crashing, looks like it'll start as snow for everyone, and stay as snow until around midday before a changeover occurs for southern locations. And now for the negatives (again, if you're a snow-lover): - Not a powerful storm...won't be generating massive QPF amounts - Since the system will not be undergoing rapid cyclogenesis, expect meso banding to be at a minimum. More like a widespread steady snow. Could see some banding farther east once the low exits the coast and gets going. - H5 trough not negatively tilted when it moves overhead. If I had to make calls right now, I would say a widespread 1-4" with 3-6" lollipops in the I-99 corridor and parts of the western SQV. Looks like non-accumulating snows by midday in the Lower SQV (on paved surfaces due to surface temps going above freezing despite -6c 850's) before it gets out of the region by the evening. Again, that's if I had to make a call right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Eric Horst on Twitter says accumulating snow likely, it is a good set up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Nice 12z run on the GFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawatch Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 You could be right about both. I seem to recall a 20" snowfall on Easter back in the late '60s at UNV. It was gone in 2 days. Although my recollection could be off on both amount and date. It was, after all, the 60's and I was attending PSU. Not sure if this is the same storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawatch Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Myself I am ready to move onto spring. I'm getting tired of the cold. Here is a storm in March 58 Edit: One more: http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/cmb/images/snow/nesis/20070315-20070318-2.54.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerplunk Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Not sure if this is the same storm. No... I was in school so it had to be sometime between 1966 and 1970. Easy to recall the event because a buddy of mine had his girlfriend visiting from Florida and she'd never seen snow before. So that was quite a surprise for her (and us), especially considering the amount. I don't know how widespread that storm was since I wasn't interested in much of anything beyond my immediate surroundings at that age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawatch Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 From what I can tell the NAM & GFS is pretty much in agreement with TQPF. CMC looks like it gives south Pa. a pretty good hit. Now is the Euro going to come more north on this run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Cmc is real nice mdt south if you want snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Allweather's thoughts seem very reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djr5001 Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 From what I can tell the NAM & GFS is pretty much in agreement with TQPF. CMC looks like it gives south Pa. a pretty good hit. Now is the Euro going to come more north on this run? precip wise yes... inland low stronger at surface at 72hr before transferring to coastal which is stronger and closer to coast at 78hr... closer to coast would have to watch to make sure easterly flow doesnt pull in warmer air for the southeast areas similar to the March 6 event though I don't think this will be that likely for the majority of us edit: pretty nice hit for BWI if they can stay cold enough for snow up to at least Lancaster... text data still coming in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Looks like i'd better let my shovel out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djr5001 Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 I'll let Jamie or someone else post the lines of text data since it does not post right for me but here are a few totals from the peak period of the storm BWI - .12", .44", .54" = ~1.10" LNS - .27", .31", .08" = ~.66" THV - .26", .23" = ~.49" MDT - .23", .19" = ~.42" IPT - .17", .07" = ~.24" UNV - .08", .22", .09" = ~.39" AOO - .18", .16", .10" = ~.44" JST - .22", .15", .08" = ~.45" FIG - .12", .20", .07" = ~.39" since those are 6 hour totals, clearly not a long duration heavy by any means for UNV, IPT, AOO, JST, FIG and even MDT, THV are pushing it... but def better than some previous runs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001kx Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 I'll let Jamie or someone else post the lines of text data since it does not post right for me but here are a few totals from the peak period of the storm BWI - .12", .44", .54" = ~1.10" LNS - .27", .31", .08" = ~.66" THV - .26", .23" = ~.49" MDT - .23", .19" = ~.42" IPT - .17", .07" = ~.24" UNV - .08", .22", .09" = ~.39" AOO - .18", .16", .10" = ~.44" JST - .22", .15", .08" = ~.45" FIG - .12", .20", .07" = ~.39" since those are 6 hour totals, clearly not a long duration heavy by any means for UNV, IPT, AOO, JST, FIG and even MDT, THV are pushing it... but def better than some previous runs looks like 2"-4" for most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 UNV has been below freezing since 6 pm Wednesday and doesn't look to go above until tomorrow. That's pretty impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 NAM has a strange look through 63 hr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 NAM south with the precip. also brings some precip. in during the day Monday. Definitely slower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PennMan Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 No... I was in school so it had to be sometime between 1966 and 1970. Easy to recall the event because a buddy of mine had his girlfriend visiting from Florida and she'd never seen snow before. So that was quite a surprise for her (and us), especially considering the amount. I don't know how widespread that storm was since I wasn't interested in much of anything beyond my immediate surroundings at that age. Just from a quick look at the COOP data, probably 1970. 10.2" 3/13/70, 11.1" 3/29-4/1/70. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Lol...I still have 2 inches in my yard where the sun doesn't shine. Took the nephews sled riding, fast conditions lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahantango#1 Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 This thread seems to be dead surprisingly considering a storm looms about 48hrs. away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick G Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 you can say that again... wait, you did.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 This thread seems to be dead surprisingly considering a storm looms about 48hrs. away! Can't speak for everyone, but a lot of us are done with snow...especially Advisory messes. And March Madness ofcourse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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