CoastalWx Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 At least thru day 10 on the op there's no sign of the vortex heading back into Alaska..though I guess we won't see any semblance of that until about day 14 It does retrograde into the ern shores of the GOA. If it can back up further, it may raise heights in the west, which could help keep the flow coming from Canada, but that's out there right now. Even with that last storm on the euro op...you can still see that we are close to the gradient line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 "N and W of rt 128" event. Insert Scooter toaster GIF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Clearly this winter has perturbed you. It has, but I should have thought before posting that. Won't happen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 LOL is that the algorithm's attempt to show the Blue Hills? A little too far east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Man this thread is way to full of emotion and weenies... must be a bad winter when even the red taggers are all over the place. I think this one works out for you guys in SNE. This thread all the sudden went from like 12 people reading it two days ago to 75 users this afternoon, lol. Guess that means SNE is in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Weenie maps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 "N and W of rt 128" event. Insert Scooter toaster GIF. are you on 495 or 128? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 LOL is that the algorithm's attempt to show the Blue Hills? A little too far east. LOL....yeah was thinking the same. i'm assuming that's what that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 It does start those areas outlines as snow, so that part isn't far off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 36 and rain should be fun while up north gets smoked again LOL... "smoked" is a relative term here I guess. Its funny how everyone thinks NNE has been smoked so far this winter... if you call daily 1" dustings smoked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 are you on 495 or 128? Right in the middle....I'm marginally in the white shading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 The ensembles are the 00z suite will determine perhaps how this trends. We have some good and bad. Good: 1) stealthy high to the north will help keep the interior cold and create ageostrophic flow 2) Some confluence to our north in the form of a PV lobe. 3) Airmass has some cold punch to it, especially in NNE Bad: 1) Southern stream system which are notorious for coming north due to physical processes at play. 2) No real good blocking 3) Airmass across SNE is rather tepid and amplfying system across the MIdwest is not helping the mid levels. You alter any one of these and borderline areas will have a big difference in outcome. Nice summary! In addition, dynamics could be tacked onto the good list. I mean, that's a pretty potent mesovort tracking south of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Dendrite has done well a few times.... but the so called GC has mainly been screwed this winter also. yeah Pete got a coating and 2K got a little.... but ask MPM, etc. and the only places to have any decent events were north of the MA/NH line. This one looks to get GC in on it...but beware it could slip north. Pretty much what I expect in reality....GC and Dendrite, rinse and repeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Nice summary! In addition, dynamics could be tacked onto the good list. I mean, that's a pretty potent mesovort tracking south of us. Yeah that could be there. I wasn't thinking that mesoscale...just outlining the main players, but sure..that will help some areas maybe closer to the changeover line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 The ensembles are the 00z suite will determine perhaps how this trends. We have some good and bad. Good: 1) stealthy high to the north will help keep the interior cold and create ageostrophic flow 2) Some confluence to our north in the form of a PV lobe. 3) Airmass has some cold punch to it, especially in NNE Bad: 1) Southern stream system which are notorious for coming north due to physical processes at play. 2) No real good blocking 3) Airmass across SNE is rather tepid and amplfying system across the MIdwest is not helping the mid levels. You alter any one of these and borderline areas will have a big difference in outcome. A real nail-biter. Not sure what the colors represent, but I think it means we need more qpf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 That light blue is 2 inches in that time increment so I don't think that's too bad over there.... It shows me some love in the earlier timer frames. A real nail-biter. Not sure what the colors represent, but I think it means we need more qpf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 That weenie map from the Euro outlines all of elevated SNE where it prints out snow ..Almost perfectly..You want to know where the hills are follow that ouline. Pretty crazy ..Too bad it's wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Miser Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 LOL is that the algorithm's attempt to show the Blue Hills? A little too far east. Blue Hill = snow captial of inner 128. (even if it's the more eastern version) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Would the euro still be like 2-3" here before the rain Thursday morning? Tough to tell on wunderground. I don't really trust the snowfall maps on that site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Would the euro still be like 2-3" here before the rain Thursday morning? Tough to tell on wunderground. I don't really trust the snowfall maps on that site. that run i think you'd be good for several inches before any mix/changeover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Miser Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Everything's good if we just imagine that the camera image on post #156 is somewhere in SNE, and not the DC area. http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/topic/31705-192012-event/page__st__140 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Again not as warm AST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I’m not going to buy into that cave-man superstition that it can’t snow because everyone wants it to so much, nor the strikingly hollow argument that since it snowed in October, 1979, and didn’t the rest of that year, the same woe-is-me-ism must be true now – there is 0, nadda, zilch, none, no logic or scientific reasoning that enforces such an absurd conclusion. Any similarity pure and utter coincidence. I hope everyone realizes I kid about that... not serious at all. Whether it is a coincidence or not remains unknown at this time, but there is no solid reasoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Yeah that could be there. I wasn't thinking that mesoscale...just outlining the main players, but sure..that will help some areas maybe closer to the changeover line. But Scott, I thought this was a cutter? Let me dig back into my memory. I think it was something like you responding to my post " LOL at the cutter for next week? That is rain for all" Those weenie maps look yummie. I'm ripping SN while blizz is ripping RA, just like how I noted in my first meltdown! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I hope everyone realizes I kid about that... not serious at all. Whether it is a coincidence or not remains unknown at this time, but there is no solid reasoning. I don't kid about it. I know it may be different for the interior but October measurable snow is negatively correlated to Boston totals. That's not woe is me, that's the stats. Caveat, obviously small sample size but it is what it is. I know that Will has posted other stats refuting this for interior locations so I'm simply using that measure for Boston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 that run i think you'd be good for several inches before any mix/changeover. Sweet...thanks. I'd definitely take an advisory 2-4"--ice---rain at this point and be happy. I hope everyone realizes I kid about that... not serious at all. Whether it is a coincidence or not remains unknown at this time, but there is no solid reasoning. Snow day on Thursday lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 SnowNH has now started fighting back. I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeus Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 SnowNH has now started fighting back. I like it. They tried to make him go to rehab, but he said snow, snow, snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I don't kid about it. I know it may be different for the interior but October measurable snow is negatively correlated to Boston totals. That's not woe is me, that's the stats. Caveat, obviously small sample size but it is what it is. I know that Will has posted other stats refuting this for interior locations so I'm simply using that measure for Boston. It's cool Jerry. I would prefer a 2006-2007 or 1993-1994 to 1979-1980 anyway Does anyone know if the Wunderground Euro snowfall maps show 6 hour totals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 But Scott, I thought this was a cutter? Let me dig back into my memory. I think it was something like you responding to my post " LOL at the cutter for next week? That is rain for all" Those weenie maps look yummie. I'm ripping SN while blizz is ripping RA, just like how I noted in my first meltdown! Someone needs to go from 5 posts to 0. Fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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