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The most encouraging news at 0Z was the Canadian coming on board with the coastal solution after a solution that looked similar to the just released 0Z Euro OP

note the gfs ai shows some frozen precip friday night

Op euro did move in the right direction the last 12 hours but it’s taking baby steps and we’re gonna need a bigger jump here at some point.

Let’s see what the eps says. 18z it was still suggesting the euro op wasn’t necessarily the most likely outcome. EPS beats the op at this range still. But this is complicated. And our luck has sucked lately. But I’ve liked this threat window for a week now. It’s legit. But complicated and requires phasing. We sometimes win with that though and we’re due. I keep saying that. When is this we’re due index supposed to kick in??? @Bob Chill

hey whether this hits or not, i think euro has a good name but should be on the same category as icon which is crappy! euro just doesn't run anymore like it used to it's probably on the same levels as any other global model nothing special about it anymore!

Dr. No OP in a world of its own as of 0Z Feb. 17 - the 12Z Canadian OP also had that cutter LP near the GL but changed course at 0Z

Euro gone fishing to the Flemish cap

Unfortunately the Friday Event isn’t that far away. Something always screws us

Yea icon trended to a stronger wave 1 and suppressed wave 2. AIFS went in between. Ggem went the other way at 0z. But across guidance the weaker that Friday thing is the stronger the Sunday storm and vice versa. Which makes sense. Conservation of energy in a limited space and all that jazz.

I noticed the Ai was slower with the Friday/Saturday wave too. That may account for the change this run. Time will tell if the Euros are right. Didn't look at the Icon. Might be the case with that too, idk.

I suspected this was gonna be a wave 1 affecting wave 2 situation...

Nada on euro

Euro is more amplified and slower with the Friday/Saturday wave. The result is its suppressing the flow behind it and absorbs what is the next wave on other guidance

Not even a hint of a storm until its far east over the fish

it also came on the heels of 94; people had gotten used to big snows the year before, and many were talking about the storm coming and were ready for it. and that was basically it for the whole winter.

It should be retired. Never seen a model hate snow so much

the effects are noticeable in all agencies and have been written about extensively in respected publications, at least the ones not owned by murdoch or bezos.....a professional has listed his reasons and you have answered with an anecdote from a poster here.

Euro looks not great at h5 so far. Very flat

Euro remains the good Doctor. Says what storm?

6 days out on a computer/phone screen, but that's not reality. I'd love to end the season with a hecs, but we've failed all winter in reaching top potential, so I don't have much faith in that at this point. Gotta get within 24-48 hours with near consensus before I can believe it'smore than a computer simulation tease.

Gonna be interesting to see if other scenarios pop up, or if it's gonna between a hit and getting shunted.

Lol...I posted earlier that if this is still a thing by Thursday I'd start the thread in full doubt and probably call it the "Ain't no way..." storm

Skynet whiffs though.

Okay? Thjs storm has much higher upside.