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Interesting snippet from Binghamton NWS AFD (issued prior to the 12z runs) Of particular note is the colder trend in the model guidance for Friday with the surface low track trending further to the south and a high to the north supplying colder air to the region. Should this trend continue, temperatures on Friday would be much colder than previously expected, with upper 20s to mid 30s for highs, rather than upper 30s to near 50 degrees for highs. In fact, the change from the 01Z NBM to the 07Z NBM shows this exact drastic difference. This would also mean snowier scenario for Friday, rather than a wintry mix to rain scenario. This will continue to be closely monitored with our upcoming forecast packages.

You have the maps listed opposite Larry. The bottom is 19th.

Look at that SW trend! 2" in Baltimore as well! Screen Recording 2025-12-22 at 12.16.35 PM.mov

Beautiful vibe shift around here. Let’s bring it home.

I’ll sacrifice Rain over Ice any day, Especially .25 and over.

Okay!!! Palisades did get very heavy snow last night and it did accumulate for them some, they look to have about 6-10 inches new snow on the ground! They may be about to get some more Tuesday!

I still think up here that 3 inches is a win

Well, good. Maybe I’ll get it on a discount.

The biggest impact of the - PNA if we actually keep blocking will be lack of STJ energy. We’ll be relying on something coming from the NW to dig and slow bc there won’t be enhancement or energy from the southern stream or a phase. That’s just the world we are in with the pacific this season. It can work for snow but the odds of a big coastal are muted without southern stream energy

He must be too scared to post. He keeps posting weenies on every post.

Euro has also shown that when you have less confluence for Friday, the follow up system cuts over the lakes as the trough can’t dig south.

Also might have missed mention of it but the Ukie also moved south, still just some light mixy stuff for northern parts of the subforum though.

https://phys.org/news/2025-12-climate-misinformation-national-threat-canada.html

I want the full trifecta of my favorite sports teams in 2025: Hyde, Franklin, and Harbaugh. Burn it all down and salt the ashes.

New maps.

NWS changed their tune in temps and precipitation for Friday. Those 40s and 50s are gone!

Yeah op was a disappointment but also given how quickly the presentation of this event is changing, really shouldn’t get discouraged with the ensembles still trending south. We’ll probably windshield wiper along the way even if it does pan out for us.

Plenty of time too.

Getting a little snow here today. Tomorrow looks pretty good and agree it may go into Wednesday. Models also starting to sniff another weak fast mover diving down on Christmas Day. Fast flow ftw.

Pretty significant improvement. Wetter and colder. Kind of surprised to see how many snowy solutions there are.

I want Harbaugh and Monken charged with Domestic Terrorism, but I'll take a firing at this point.

It's going to make it tough on the guys who rely heavily on analog years for the medium to long range.

I don't think they will be for long, lol This will all be worth it if it finally brings about the change we've so desperately needed. I think things had to happen this way in order that to (hopefully) take place.

I had to come to Vegas to get a flood watch lol.

A rainbow of options for sure. I'm going to (likely) be in Staunton for this one so I don't think I care too much what happens. Probably face the wrath of my girlfriend and retreat back to DC if it somehow trends to a higher end advisory storm, otherwise I'm fine missing a sleet/ice mess.