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NGL, this is a delicate setup. The ULL likely will squeeze something out over the Carolina’s but relying on a late phase with timing and low placement is like finding a needle in a haystack, maps looks beautiful but in reality, this one has way too many variations to have a high chance of success.

lol you must be new here. We track threats in winter. Why would we take a break? This is fun for us even when they don’t trend the way we want. We take a big break from about March 15 to Nov 15 every year.

They need dump trucks to clean the big piles from the streets. Like you said , we are use to warmups after big storms but we might not hit freezing for another week at least.

Everyone I know is already talking about it, the media hype is nuts.

It's implied. Personally, I find the actual QPF maps more helpful at this timeframe.

If you want a perfect representation of microclimate and cold-air drainage, check out Manassas this morning. The airport sits at a low point, only 50-100' below the surroundings, but enough to perfectly bottom out in calm conditions.

9.7 - shocked it wasn’t lower with the glacier on the ground

Definitely looks like a Pisten Bully blade. Could be Prinoth too.

I’d like to start seeing a western shift if we are going to get somewhere with this.

anyone have the snow map for 6z gfs and euro thanks

On the ULL: if that becomes our primary way to score, hold onto your seats. Globals will be absolutely horrendous these next two days. We could see runs dropping a foot and then dropping nothing every 6 hrs. CAMs will have to come into range to provide clarity on that particular setup. Trying to figure out moisture/deform bands in the winter time with an ULL is like trying to pinpoint where a pop up storm will occur 2 days out in the summer

Not a very representative map for Orange County. Most locations are 38-45 inches right now.

Thank you! Was guessing it felt like 2 feet! I love $now!

9 was my low, busted high.

Teachers always complain. meanwhile, the rest of us show up to work on time with a smile on her we get fired. Go figure. that said the city is in for a rough go in terms of melting because there’s no warm air and if another major snowstorm hits, it’s gonna hurt on those tight streets. Throwing the snow in the street and watching it melt with traffic and 35 degrees isnt going to work this go around. back in the 90s, they would close the school yard and let the teachers park there during a major snow situation… but with the political optics in the city these days, I don’t see that happening

He's all over the boards this morning. Just put him on ignore.

20 easy

Yo, Kingsport people, especially west Kingsport/ anyone in Hawkins county y'all seeing any Cherokee Lake effect snow? I've got some Watts Bar Lake effect snow here (posted in general obs) and a band from Cherokee aimed at KPT is showing up on satellite. I'll move this post later this AM. But thought more people would see it here.

I have a question for you fine folks.... In Garden City, NY I'd guesstimate we had around a foot of snow before 8 or 9 hours of sleet. Id like to know how much snow that would be if it had remained snow through the storm. any ideas? If you could point me to where to find qpf for the storm I can figure it out too. I looked, cant find. I do snow removal and want an idea for invoicing. Charging for more than a foot as that sh#t was heavy! Much appreciated!

Remember when it just used just to snow here and we didn’t need 5,743 things to go right? Now you have all of these weird acronyms like PNA and NAO or whatever the heck they’re called that need to go right along with everything else for something to happen.

There was this one as well. January 2000.

thats snowfall not liquid

I don't think it would get that far west given the NAO block, but it could certainly tuck into the cape or maybe even se MA.

Bro we don’t care if it misses or not, you are literally contributing nothing though. We all know how to look at the models.

Low was 1.8 degrees here, agree with @EastCoast NPZ, wind probably helped hold temp up a bit. Set a new 'cool max' for the date with the 19.0 high, old mark was 22 degrees in 1982. Nowhere near record low, that is -5 from 1987. The 1.8 with the W at 7 mph wind makes a WC of -11.