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Yeah golfing is coming before gardening for sure. Be nice if my days off aligned with some nice weather instead of 43 and windy tho.
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Thanks. Do you have a link to the source for the map Chris posted?
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There won't be any frost/freeze products though from LWX
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Occasional Thoughts on Climate Change
Typhoon Tip replied to donsutherland1's topic in Climate Change
These bold' are all of it. Two aspects zooming past one another in humanity's race toward the cliff. The first one is a complete and utter misconception about climate change, one that I feel pretty strongly is the fault of the origianl science PR vision. When it became clear in the atmospheric geogphysical mathematics decades ago, their campaign felt like an attack on civility traditions... function heritages ... generational ingrained ways and means. When in reality, global warming, per se, isn't the problem. Whaaaaaa ! It's not, not per se. The problem is, adaptation capacity. That's always been it, and as far as I can hear or read, very few seem to really know this. The world could warm 100 points - if all species can adapt, in time, the conversation is rendered moot. Whenever we hear these less than adequately educated self-appointed spoke persons of denial attempt to invoke the argument, "the earth has been warmer before", or "climate change is part of the Earth's history" ... we cringe. Once one understands that derivatives and partial derivatives in the integration of the whole system ( i.e., change with respect other factors ( DX/ DY) ) is what creates the nature of all and nature itself, they then know that the former talking points are just labels and scalars. Meaningless in the definition of what the problem really is. Those that continue to rely on the scalars and won't bother to get with the program, to paraphrase Brian Cox, 'you should be largely ignored ... even chastised'. Because your opinion is uncoupled from objective causality. The 2nd one is 'virtue signaling' ... At least the deniers are honest about it their feelings - gotta give 'em that. Take the entire en masse acceptance demographic... of them, a scant % are actually doing anything to really curb their ways and means. I've been raging about the 5 senses evolutionary limitation on perceived threats for years. We are a species really only just on the cusp of escaping our primitive state - for the sake of discussion... call primal state any animal that is not modifying their own genetics, sending meat wagons to the moon, and on the verge of Quantum Computing ... We are smart enough to innovate these, which means ... we are also intrinsically capable of predicting how what we do will both effect and affect. Yet, we are still slaved to only believing what these intellectual gifts are telling us until we actually see, hear, smell, touch, or taste the threat. I really think at a very fundamental, most discrete level ...that's it. You tell a person to step off the train track, 'a train is coming,' they pier up and down the rail in either direction - they must not believe it unless it is seen or heard. If they had, you never would have had to tell them in the first place. So, humanity is standing around on the track, arguing about the color shoes they are wearing to the engagement when it comes to this global warm stuff. Which is kind of funny, because what the hell else are the tracks for. -
We're onto next season.
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certainly could see some coatings on grassy/colder surfaces
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It is largely a huge guess and mostly filled in using a handful of data. If it was a science paper for college using that, you'd probably fail.
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It doesn't help that the increase in temps is more likely to be observed nocturnally, which doesn't help awareness/mindfullness. I'm not saying the daytime maxes aren't warming....they absolutely are, but it's just that it's realized to an even greater degree at night.
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I went with +2 to +4 in my March review.
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Ya i think we whiten tomorrow.. HRRR is fun
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Ended up with 1.79" total. Brief downpours followed by good soaking rains.
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April 6 1991: The second of three consecutive record highs, all above 80 degrees, is set at MSP airport (86 on 4/6/1991). ^Note: April 5 record was eclipsed in 2021 at 85 (80 1991) but April 6 (86) & 7 (83) still stand.^ 1964: A snowstorm hits Minnesota with 9 inches at Fosston and 8.7 at Park Rapids. For Monday, April 6, 2026 1936 - A tornado outbreak in the Deep South resulted in a total of 446 deaths and eighteen million dollars damage. It was a "Tale of Two Cities". During the evening of the 5th a tornado hit Tupelo MS killing 216 persons, injuring 700 others, and causing three million dollars damage. The next morning the paths of two tornadoes met about 8:30 AM and cut a swath four blocks wide through Gainesville GA killing 203 persons, injuring 934, and causing thirteen million dollars damage. Eight to ten feet of debris filled the streets following the storm. At least 70 persons died in the Cooper Pants Factory, the greatest tornado toll of record for a single building. (David Ludlum) (The Weather Channel) 1983 - The temperature at Denver, CO, dipped to a record cold seven degrees above zero. (The Weather Channel) 1987 - Rain and melting snow caused flooding from New England to Ohio. Flooding in the Merrimack Valley of Massachusetts was the worst in fifty years, causing forty-two million dollars damage. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1988 - A powerful storm produced wind gusts to 75 mph around Chicago, IL, and wind gusts to 92 mph at Goshen IN. The high winds created twenty-five foot waves on Lake Michigan. (Storm Data) (The National Weather Summary) 1989 - Unseasonably hot weather prevailed in California. Afternoon highs of 91 degrees in Downtown San Francisco, 93 degrees at San Jose, 98 degrees at San Diego, 103 degrees at Santa Maria, 104 degrees at Riverside, and 106 degrees in Downtown Los Angeles established records for the month of April. (The National Weather Summary) 1990 - Snow developed in the northeastern U.S. for the second time in the month. In Virginia, a heavy wet snow blanketed northern and central sections of the Shenandoah Valley, and eastern foothills, with up to 12 inches reported around Harrisonburg. Heavy snow also blanketed the high elevations of West Virginia, with 10 inches reported at Snowshoe. An inch of snow at Syracuse NY raised their total for the winter season to a record-tying 161.3 inches. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 2005 - Thunderstorms erupted and produced severe weather including 32 reports of tornadoes, most of which touched down in Mississippi and Louisiana. Between 20 and 25 homes were destroyed and 7 people were injured. Mississippi governor Haley Barbour declared a state of emergency (CNN).
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Could see some squalls or heavier snow showers moving through right in time for AM rush hour tomorrow
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no one is arguing that it wasn't warmer than normal. my post was simply to argue that this early spring so far has NOT been warmer ("better" in his words) based on the March average this year vs last.
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It was pretty much +2 to +3 up here. DCA +5, PIT +8, CVG +9, STL +8, OKC +10, DEN +10, PHX +12.
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Occasional Thoughts on Climate Change
WolfStock1 replied to donsutherland1's topic in Climate Change
Sorry but the notion that *any* person or organization could have enough information to make such a judgment - let alone there be "consensus" on it, is laughable. This kind of judgment requires essentially omniscience - a full and complete view of the long lists of benefits and drawbacks, with appropriate weighting, and timescales, applied to each. This is some that people and organizations - even collectively - don't have. Let alone on an individual basis, such as what would be required for "consensus". In case you're wondering why there's so much pushback - this is why. People don't like baseless statements like this. -
Central PA Spring 2026 Discussion/Obs Thread
Jns2183 replied to Voyager's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
Last year the single worst day for Storms were the ones that developed as a backdoor cold front came through the area. Storm motion was to the south west. It did a bunch of wind damage. Does anyone have the dates for the storm? Sent from my SM-S731U using Tapatalk -
Central PA Spring 2026 Discussion/Obs Thread
pawatch replied to Voyager's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
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I'll tell ya... the GIS montly/NASA temperature anomaly product for March might be interesting. My hunch is, like every month since October it willl have a relative min situated over mid latitude eastern continent, while it is comparatively warmer to much warmer most everywhere else. I've been posting this product on or around the 10th of the months since, showing this repeating leitmotif to hide CC from Winterwolf hahaha
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April, 6 1982 Snow totals EWR: 12.8 NYC: 9.6 LGA: 8.2 JFK: 8.0
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Jns2183 replied to Voyager's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
The Fatboy awakens!!! Plus a manual rain gauge. I maybe have the worst yard ever for a weather station. But she will do. Even with a garage blocking me to the north I still managed a 18.8mph gust last night Sent from my SM-S731U using Tapatalk -
44 years ago Some young NYC news faces then. 9.6 inches of snow in NYC
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Summit Snow replied to Voyager's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
So there is this from BGM... Tonight A chance of rain and snow showers before 1am, then a chance of snow showers between 1am and 2am, then a slight chance of rain and snow showers after 2am. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 31. Northwest wind 5 to 8 mph. Chance of precipitation is 40%. New snow accumulation of less than a half inch possible. Tuesday Partly sunny, with a high near 41. Northwest wind 14 to 16 mph, with gusts as high as 26 mph. Tuesday Night Mostly clear, with a low around 21. North wind 5 to 10 mph. -
I prefer to remain non-confrontational... heh Having said that, he did say, "March finished +4 " I'm not sure where he was looking - I could see that happening though because a theme I've been playing with in my posts is that we get modestly warmer than normal monthly means out of colder looking synoptic constructs. It's one of those obfuscating charms of CC. It makes sense. If the d(T) is always positive, that means we're on a slope, so the same synoptic conditions should register at least decimals warmer than the last incarnation. It may be a straw man argument at this point, but I do sense that people rely a bit too much on the old adage, "CC doesn't make it warm today" .... noooo, buuuut, it does mean one should expect it to be warmer than the last time. It's just another subversion thing people that know better than to deny, but can't stand the truth.
