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Great post and so true. I would emphasize that the first half or three quarters of the pack goes a LOT quicker than the last part due to heavy compaction resulting from lower density. I've seen countless times where that last 4-6" hangs on way longer than you'd expect due to the extremely dense icy nature of the pack. As you alluded to, sleet mixed in helps greatly but also the pack itself creates its own icy center due to the daily melt and refreeze cycle. I know you know all this; I just love this topic ha.

you know, some of you keep giving that guy a platform by breathlessly posting about him. we know he sucks

We don’t need brutal cold either going forward…climo will be kicking in, and normal temps will be sufficient too.

Nope

Nope....

Also - get 0.25" of liquid with this kind of sounding for New Haven and you can squeeze out 4" of snow or something.

Icon is dusting to 2". 3+ to the south

Golden shovels, showers.. you name it

2015-2016 was a super El Niño like 1982-1983 and both years had blockbuster snowstorms during the 2nd half of winter. This was the case since El Niños usually start out slow snd have their snowiest periods later. So we often can’t use December El Niños as a marker for the rest of the season. But sometimes in the cases like 2002-2003 and 2009-2010 El Niños, December is so snowy that we get epic follow up snows during the February El Niño prime time. So in those cases a December forecast for a very snowy season would have worked out.

The hope of Hammer !

RGEM is 3-5 it looks best right now

Where do I sign for that. Unfortunately it's the only model really showing much for Frederick/ Hagerstown

Hard to sit Maye in the playoffs. I have Maye and my opponent has Allen. Hoping they kinda wash each other out.

Not buying Reggie

This run fits our new climo with the favored S&E suburbs. My Calvert folks got like 2.5 times as much snow as me last winter and I expect that to continue.

Indeed it does. Previous rgem runs had almost nothing. That said, you’re in a much better position than I am for this one.

It didn't last long, and radar does not look promising for much (if any) more, but it was fun to see fall for a few minutes. Mood flakes!

Actually improved here. Looks like we’d get some form of CCB for a bit

Ya tossing reggie and 6z euro..

A couple things I'm interested in: 1. As we near this event, how do the mesos trend with the upper level jet and any small ticks in TPV placement to allow greater height rises (or worsening). 2. QPF trends on guidance, especially along the northwest edge of the precip shield. Latest RGEM stays wet for the Lehigh Valley (0.2-0.3" of precip), NAM much drier. 3. Post-storm, I'm curious what the SLRs end up being. The NAMs are the most aggressive (no surprise) in some solid omega within the DGZ and also 850mb fronto, but mostly along and south of I-95 once the storm starts to get going a bit. I'm curious to compare 10:1 and Kuchera model maps to reality.

my grandparents were visiting from southern indianan and they had never seen snow like that.....an older woman told me her husband died shoveling the snow and she had to keep him the house for a few days as no one could get to her.....

RRFS back to earth looks like Euro now, I think the Nam's have the right idea as they are a blend of EURO and GFS

I’m liking how consistent it’s been. Hopefully it has a clue. I don’t buy into the NAM flopping again, it needs to be put out of its misery. But hopefully we see other models bumping N a bit and becoming more aggressive. It’s still a setup where this is fast moving and the trough can squish it south and rush dry air in. That’s the problem the Hudson Valley and much of SNE has-this is all just moving too fast and can’t amp up in time with the trough pressing down. That also brings in dry air. I bet that area with under an inch has flurries to maybe a dusting because of virga-seen that here last winter with those DC to S NJ systems.

And there’s even a chance at still another with the Arctic plunge coming in Sunday!

RGEM is as close as we get to the”everyone wins” scenario