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January 2026 Medium/Long Range Discussion


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28 minutes ago, Weather Will said:

12Z GEFS shows a progressive trough moving off the coast.  No big coastal storm for next week.

 

22 minutes ago, frd said:

Like you said previously, way too many things need to go right to get significant snow here. Winter Nor'Easters and benchmark storms have gone the way of the dinosaurs.  

 

lol…you two bringing the Eeyore? Surprise!

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19 hours ago, CAPE said:

I don't think you understand the purpose of ensemble models. Maybe just ignore them?

I appreciate your suggestion, but No, I won't ignore them.

I fully understand that they are supposed to be more accurate than the deterministic models because of more data input across various parameters.  A higher skill score should be achieved, especially for complex systems or longer term considerations.

I will develop a comparison chart for ECM/EPS and GFS and GFS ens.

Saturdays rain will be a good first comparison.

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1 minute ago, mattie g said:

 

lol…you two bringing the Eeyore? Surprise!

Just trying to keep expectations in check so people aren't disappointed.  The globals are really worthless outside Day 5.  Ensembles are ok through Day 10.  Just nothing screaming snow storm incoming right now.  Hopefully that will change over the next week...

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3 minutes ago, mattie g said:

 

lol…you two bringing the Eeyore? Surprise!

I think the Debbing should be kept to a minimum until after the weekend at least. sounds like the opportunities are there, and were far too far out to be worrying about specifics. 

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3 minutes ago, T. August said:

Euro pretty different at 500. Can’t see the sfc yet

We need the ULL to be as far east as possible and the northern stream shortwave diving south to be as far west as possible. We need these to at least partially phase, so the ULL needs to be downstream of the developing longwave trof. Otherwise the trof will be positively tilted and a coastal storm is unlikely.

Ensembles and AIs have been trending in the wrong direction. Only the ICON shows a successful evolution with this feature.

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3 minutes ago, eduggs said:

Kickers are never the problem. They are (usually) a symptom of an unfavorable upper level evolution. It's a dumb term coined by people who don't know what they are talking about.

Guess I'm pretty dumb.  That's what I picked up from years being here.  

Anyone here who actually wants to teach folks wanna help out here?

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2 minutes ago, stormtracker said:

Guess I'm pretty dumb.  That's what I picked up from years being here.  

Anyone here who actually wants to teach folks wanna help out here?

No offense was meant. But it's a little like saying a surface high can block storms or that a surface low causes a storm and precipitation. We like to almost anthropomorphize meteorological features that are actually just a reflection of the large-scale upper level atmospheric circulation and evolution.

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2 hours ago, winter_warlock said:

Been quite a while since we had a miller A coming up from the gulf!!! Hope it holds and I hope other models get on board!!

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It’s a bit south of the classic passage point over Atlanta but at least it’s from the south

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