Blizzard of 93 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago The 12z EPS & 12z Canadian ensemble in the day 10 to 15 period look very workable to me. I have no interest in freezing the orange groves while we have below zero temps. Last year a frigid 2 weeks in late January gave us “congrats Carolinas” & “congrats Gulf coast” when they snowed while we froze. I think many of us would welcome a pattern of just cold enough with chances to score snow. Bring on some moisture laden storms & let the chips fall during prime snow climo season. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 6 minutes ago, Maestrobjwa said: Now see...ya can't help but think about 22-23 when that thing went on steroids the entire season (I think the NAO linked up with it). I was used to seeing that in February of a Nina but that thing surged basically the entire winter, smh Now this is a different setup, of course...but I had been under the impression that the ser was more of a February thing in ninas. Its usually there all season but most notably in Feb. That also doesn't necessarily mean 100% the SER will pump the entire month either. Could it? Sure. But given the Dec up top pattern, I think there will be more of a resistance from the NAO and PV. Those early season looks tend to show up throughout the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard of 93 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago The 12z AI Euro & AI GEFS also show a very workable look in the day 10 to 15 period. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JenkinsJinkies Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Just now, Blizzard of 93 said: The 12z AI Euro & AI GEFS also show a very workable look in the day 10 to 15 period. The cliff jumpers need to invest in bungees. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard of 93 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 12z Synopsis EPS, EPS AI, CMC ensemble, & GEFS AI ensemble all have a very workable & generally similar look in the day 10 to 15 period. Only the GEFS looked different…but @CAPE said that it looked workable as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JenkinsJinkies Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Just now, Blizzard of 93 said: 12z Synopsis EPS, EPS AI, CMC ensemble, & GEFS ensemble all have a very workable & generally similar look in the day 10 to 15 period. Only the GEFS looked different…but @CAPE said that it looked workable as well. I’m guessing this is why Webb didn’t change back to heat miser? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPE Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 50 minutes ago, mitchnick said: Eps have the SE Ridge at the end of the run too. This is at least the 3rd run in a row on the 360hr runs. It's maddening. I'm not sure why you worry so much about the very end of the ens runs. You know this is subject to larger errors. I have done some analysis of each of the big 3(GEFS/EPS/GEPS) over multiple consecutive runs(fwiw lol), and I think there is a decent shot at a snow event mid month, +/- a day or so. Building EPO ridge, SW trough undercutting the western ridge with energy ejecting eastward, and a pretty solid look in the NA. All models to varying degrees indicate significant precip in the Tennessee valley with height lines oriented SW to NE. Ofc it might not work out but there is potential in that window on guidance. If it torches beyond that, so be it. As we know, these modeled warmups in the LR have been perpetually pushed back for months lol. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JenkinsJinkies Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, CAPE said: I'm not sure why you worry so much about the very end of the ens runs. Especially the fact that it’s always at the end of the runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoast NPZ Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, IronTy said: Whatever, I'm reasonably confident we can get cold air by the latter half of the month. My top analogue is.....1985. I was only 4yo that winter living in Michigan so I have.no idea what it brought here. What I'm not reasonably confident is precip. The drought presses on for the next few weeks and I see no reason it lets up this month. It brought cold and dry and an early end to winter. It was a miserable winter here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago I realize im breaking my own rules looking ahead, but to keep the jumpers from jumping, the CFS establishes a decent quasi CPF by mid-month thru early Feb. EPO ridging and a flattened SER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osfan24 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago All the talk about a “workable” pattern gives me the same vibes as the sign when you get off 495 to jump in Route 1 South that states PG County: A “ liveable” community. Congrats, you could survive here and it wouldn’t be awful. Sign me up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weather Will Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago WB latest EPS extended. Three weeks until our snowy week. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, Weather Will said: WB latest EPS extended. Three weeks until our snowy week. That's the week I took off for my 'stay'cation a couple months back, so LFG! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPE Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Just now, osfan24 said: All the talk about a “workable” pattern gives me the same vibes as the sign when you get off 495 to jump in Route 1 South that states PG County: A “ liveable” community. Congrats, you could survive here and it wouldn’t be awful. Sign me up. We live in the Mid Atlantic. "Workable" patterns are what we have to work with, if we are lucky. Sometimes they yield something, other times not so much. With certainty, we have HH everyday though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPE Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 5 minutes ago, Weather Will said: WB latest EPS extended. Three weeks until our snowy week. Nothing before that? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adelphi_sky Posted 37 minutes ago Share Posted 37 minutes ago 27 minutes ago, CAPE said: Nothing before that? LOL Early December snows are exciting, but I think I like January snow better. A virtually snowless January blows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormy Posted 35 minutes ago Share Posted 35 minutes ago 22 minutes ago, Weather Will said: WB latest EPS extended. Three weeks until our snowy week. The late January period has so many variables that are unresolved. This La Nina winter is decent with a December 4 - 5 degrees colder than normal. Something very strange is that PSU used to preach that temperatures were not usually cold enough for snow any more.................. That is amazing..................... Wrong but amazing......................... Stupid people will put this post down................ Intelligent people will say, WOW, you have something there. What are you??? STUPID or INTELLIGENT ??? Intelligent says that February and March will probably have surprises. Snowlovers, You have another 70 days ........................ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JenkinsJinkies Posted 35 minutes ago Share Posted 35 minutes ago 2 minutes ago, adelphi_sky said: Early December snows are exciting, but I think I like January snow better. A virtually snowless January blows. Most of our big ones hold off until after the new year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weather Will Posted 15 minutes ago Share Posted 15 minutes ago 49 minutes ago, CAPE said: Nothing before that? LOL Maybe!!!!! That is why there are crazy people like us that look at every run!!!! If I were smart I would turn it off for a week.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bncho Posted 15 minutes ago Share Posted 15 minutes ago you know the mood is kinda cooked if mitch is the new chuck lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted 8 minutes ago Share Posted 8 minutes ago 3 minutes ago, bncho said: you know the mood is kinda cooked if mitch is the new chuck lol Anybody who has been around here for some time knows I'm as big a weenie when it's going to snow as anybody else. I've just been doing it long enough to come to the belief that the crappy outcomes need to be pointed out as much as the weenie ones because what can go wrong, will go wrong. Plus, it lessens the sting on the inevitable busts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osfan24 Posted just now Share Posted just now PSU being MIA is/should have been a major tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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