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Boxing Night Snow/Sleet/Ice Dec 26-27 Storm Thread/Obs.


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40 minutes ago, Birds~69 said:

No where near (or same universe) as the slot car ice event. Will never see that again in my lifetime...

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You talking Valentine's 2007?

My street WAS literally a slot car track. I live on a single lane one way street, and the two tire ruts in the frozen slush were 2-3 inches deep. If you could get out of your parking space, you didn't need to hold the wheel to go down the street. The car just tracked straight down the street. 

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Quite a few multi vehicle crashes reported on 22 by cedar crest and 309. Roads are a mess. Cars driving with hazards and doing 10mph by My apts. Freezing rain with a few pellets mixed in. The cameras are getting frozen over on 22 cams.

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Mount Holly update:

NEAR TERM /THROUGH SATURDAY/... 620 PM update... Well, that changed quickly. The models that were surging in the warm air aloft (NAM in particular) seem to have mostly had a handle on things, at least across our CWA, with most areas already changed to freezing rain and sleet. Have made a significant cut to snowfall totals, which necessitated dropping the warnings for Monroe, Warren, Middlesex and Monmouth counties. That having been said, we are now starting to get anxious about ice accumulation, since several more hours of freezing rain may put some areas in the game for ice storm warning criteria (1/4 inch). Made some upward adjustments in the ice forecast and will watch obs closely over the next few hours.

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2 minutes ago, Voyager said:

You talking Valentine's 2007?

My street was literally a slot car track. I live on a single lane one way street, and two tire ruts in the frozen slush were 2-3 inches deep. If you could get out of your parking space, you didn't need to hold the wheel to go down the street. The car just tracked straight down the street. 

Nope. But I think I know what you're talking about. This event was historic and happened in the 90s. Heavy freezing rain with temps in the low 20s all night. The road accumulated inches of ice which lasted for several weeks.... took forever to melt. The roads  formed several inch deep "groves" where if your tire became stuck in that groove you were screwed. Wherever that groove ended your car ended. (tree, curb?) You couldn't steer out of it. Completely nuts. Completely screwed my suspension. RedSky  :oldman:  knows all about this event and probably can provide a date..

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1 minute ago, Birds~69 said:

Nope. But I think I know what you're talking about. This event was historic and happened in the 90s. Heavy freezing rain with temps in the low 20s all night. The road accumulated inches of ice which lasted for several weeks.... took forever to melt. The roads  formed several inch deep "groves" where if your tire became stuck in that groove you were screwed. Wherever that groove ended your car ended. (tree, curb?) You couldn't steer out of it. Completely nuts. Completely screwed my suspension. RedSky  :oldman:  knows all about this event and probably can provide a date..

I think I remember this i was living in jersey then, Warren County.  Iirc was around 95 or 96 cpl years after I graduated. Kids had off a week or 2 of school it was sleet and freezing rain and my road was like a block of ice around 4 to 5 inches thick. A town plow was coming down the road slamming his plow down and it snapped off and slammed into  a pole lol. They had to bring in them graders to clear the roads.

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8 minutes ago, Birds~69 said:

Nope. But I think I know what you're talking about. This event was historic and happened in the 90s. Heavy freezing rain with temps in the low 20s all night. The road accumulated inches of ice which lasted for several weeks.... took forever to melt. The roads  formed several inch deep "groves" where if your tire became stuck in that groove you were screwed. Wherever that groove ended your car ended. (tree, curb?) You couldn't steer out of it. Completely nuts. Completely screwed my suspension. RedSky  :oldman:  knows all about this event and probably can provide a date..

January 1994 

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Just now, RedSky said:

January 1994 

That was it. I called that "the ice winter". It was cold too, I remember Peco having rolling brownouts due to high demand. Sledding was amazing, you could sled on almost level surfaces, and see grass through about 3 inches of ice.

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Gettling light ZR with some flakes mixed in.  Untreated surfaces here caved to the graupel and sleet (more graupel then sleet as I didn't hear much sound as it was coming down).  Looks like snow on the walks but I know it's not and is treacherous.

Temp is currently 26 with dp 23 (so finally out of the teens).

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1 minute ago, KamuSnow said:

That was it. I called that "the ice winter". It was cold too, I remember Peco having rolling brownouts due to high demand. Sledding was amazing, you could sled on almost level surfaces, and see grass through about 3 inches of ice.

Back then I didn't have a generator and no power for days I dont remember having a hard time keeping warm

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20 minutes ago, Birds~69 said:

Nope. But I think I know what you're talking about. This event was historic and happened in the 90s. Heavy freezing rain with temps in the low 20s all night. The road accumulated inches of ice which lasted for several weeks.... took forever to melt. The roads  formed several inch deep "groves" where if your tire became stuck in that groove you were screwed. Wherever that groove ended your car ended. (tree, curb?) You couldn't steer out of it. Completely nuts. Completely screwed my suspension. RedSky  :oldman:  knows all about this event and probably can provide a date..

1994 perhaps? Nothing like being in an open cab firetruck running back and forth to downed power lines and trees when it was 19 degrees and pure rain.

 

Back in present time, had a quick shot of snow and now back to sleet, freezing rain.  

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31 minutes ago, Baum said:

Mount Holly update:

NEAR TERM /THROUGH SATURDAY/... 620 PM update... Well, that changed quickly. The models that were surging in the warm air aloft (NAM in particular) seem to have mostly had a handle on things, at least across our CWA, with most areas already changed to freezing rain and sleet. Have made a significant cut to snowfall totals, which necessitated dropping the warnings for Monroe, Warren, Middlesex and Monmouth counties. That having been said, we are now starting to get anxious about ice accumulation, since several more hours of freezing rain may put some areas in the game for ice storm warning criteria (1/4 inch). Made some upward adjustments in the ice forecast and will watch obs closely over the next few hours.

As wacky as the NAM can be sometimes, it really does a good job with these mid level warm noses more often than not.

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7 minutes ago, RedSky said:

January 1994 

There were multiple ice storms that winter.  It was awful because the state of PA ran out of road salt and consumer halite.  I remember having to go on a work trip down to Baltimore that January (by Amtrak) but drove to 30th St. Station.  I did my usual down Lincoln Drive and was ready to go up the ramp to City Line Ave to get to the Schuylkill Expressway (figuring that would be treated) and had KYW on where I heard a traffic report about the poor conditions there, so kept straight onto the Kelly Drive instead, going slow.  Later found out that they had to close the Expressway due to cars and trucks stuck on the exit/entrance ramps unable to move due to the ice (and those ramps freeze before the roads).  I think people were trapped for like 8 hours. :o :axe: 

Thankfully it was all rain down in Baltimore and they had plenty of halite in the stores, so I was able to buy a couple bags to bring back for my mom.  That winter, her front walk ended up being the only one done to the cement because no one else had salt.

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10 minutes ago, RedSky said:

January 1994 

There you have it. For me it ranks right up there with the 83 blizzard and the 96 blizzard even though it wasn't a blizzard. Waking up the next morning with the ice glazing off the trees.TONS of ice, door locks frozen, everything frozen and this shit lasted for a while. Top three weather events in my life...

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2 minutes ago, LVblizzard said:

As wacky as the NAM can be sometimes, it really does a good job with these mid level warm noses more often than not.

It’s money, I basically wrote this event off on snow when it was showing the torched mid levels at 84 hours out. It did a great job.

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1 hour ago, Birds~69 said:

The cold, damp and rainy/misty crap along with any breeze goes right through your bones...

Telford was brutal....23f and a skating rink. 309 was slick. As I pulled onto.Bristol road from 202 the temp jumped to 27f and the roads improved. 

Pouring sleet and freezing rain here attm 27f.

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