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Winter 2025-26 Medium/Long Range Discussion


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From wind chills in the -20s today and tomorrow to...that.

The phrase "averages are merely a mean of extremes" comes to mind.

Between the first and second halves, this month will likely show up as close to "normal" temperature-wise around these parts when all is said and done, but it will say absolutely nothing about the conditions actually experienced on any given day.

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58 minutes ago, michsnowfreak said:

Yup. Winter done with before the winter solstice :rolleyes:

 Here’s the issue. It’s like having a warm early May, then a cooldown leading up to the June solstice, and declaring that summer is over and not coming. Playing devil’s advocate, though—winter is cumulative and depends on a cold source and upstream snowpack. Summer doesn’t necessarily rely on those same factors to still turn out hot, even if there’s an early “snowball” effect to cool things down prior to the solstice.  

 

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20 minutes ago, Frog Town said:

 Here’s the issue. It’s like having a warm early May, then a cooldown leading up to the June solstice, and declaring that summer is over and not coming. Playing devil’s advocate, though—winter is cumulative and depends on a cold source and upstream snowpack. Summer doesn’t necessarily rely on those same factors to still turn out hot, even if there’s an early “snowball” effect to cool things down prior to the solstice.  

 

Many times in la nina December is the wintriest month. But it doesn't necessarily mean the others are bad. Im sure it was tongue in cheek tho, everyone knows the cfs monthlies, which change 4x a day, are useless. It does seem like some sort of gradient may want to develop, also a nina characteristic.

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A few model runs here and there had been throwing in a day in the 50s or even 60s here over the next couple weeks, but they have moderated the warmup.  The latest Euro and GFS have a couple days in the 40s, but then it's just a bunch of 30s with a few 20s thrown in, so it's mostly relatively mild, but no blow torch.  The snow will still melt off.

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