June 2025 discussion-obs: Summerlike

[psv88]

14 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said:

Personally I'd rather see some severe than record heat 

We've been severely lacking in that department 

I don’t think I’ve heard thunder in months 

[rclab]

12 hours ago, psv88 said:

Another 3 pages of Liberty gibberish.

71 here today 

Liberty's is our only hope for catching up to the New England Forums post count. As always ….

[winterwx21]

1 hour ago, SnoSki14 said:

Personally I'd rather see some severe than record heat 

We've been severely lacking in that department 

Hopefully we'll see some big-time t-storms this summer. I enjoy a good t-storm almost as much as a snowstorm. 

[Wxoutlooksblog]

00Z GFS did NOT have the backdoor cold front Wednesday. It stayed well to our north then got here Friday night and quickly washed out with 576dm thicknesses building around it. The 00Z GFS when compared to the 12Z GFS is hotter and longer duration heat lasting from Sunday through perhaps Saturday or even maybe the following Sunday. And wouldn't you know, the heat is poised to rebuild into the region the very beginning of July according to its fantasy range maps. There'll be lots of thunderstorm activity IMO. The GGEM did have the Wednesday evening cold front with cooler weather Thursday & Friday (onshore winds).

WX/PT

[nycwinter]

2 hours ago, psv88 said:

I don’t think I’ve heard thunder in months 

we have had thunderstorms and i heard thunder  a few times here in nyc

[SnoSki14]

Ensembles are getting stronger with the heat dome. 600dm now showing up on GFS. 

[ForestHillWx]

We’ve had continuous light drizzle all night. Wondering how much we are up to  since this event began last Friday. 

Every drop counts with this projected torch; also I’d prefer to avoid hand watering my newest gardens that I installed in May 

[IrishRob17]

.65" in the last 12 hours, 2.46" for the month. 

[wdrag]

Considering,  but not acting upon a possible thread for interior NJ first June 3 or more 100 degree days, occurring next week.  Blend of Models is several degrees under 100. I want to see how temps play this Thursday (KEWR 90?), and subsequent modeling.  Much can interrupt excessive heat, including sea breezes, thunderstorms, cloud debris.  TOO early but for me, worthy of monitoring. 

105 "heat index" - think that is our warning criteria up here, has according to WPC statisitcs is around a 60% chance of occurrence Monday and Tuesday.  Here is Tuesday's early morning WPC prediction for Tuesday.  Click for clarity and use the graph for probability interpretation. 

 

[steve392]

61, dreary and.....raining..again 

[jm1220]

2 minutes ago, steve392 said:

61, dreary and.....raining..again 

4 days with rain in a row. 

[LongBeachSurfFreak]

It’s going to a complete shock to the system going from cool drizzle to a potentially historic heatwave. 

[JustinRP37]

Talking to some people on the train today and everyone is super excited about a heatwave, even the people that hate the heat. I found that odd but I think everyone is just sick and tired of the constant dreary weather we have had. Constant October skies in May/June do mess with emotions. 

[jm1220]

8 minutes ago, JustinRP37 said:

Talking to some people on the train today and everyone is super excited about a heatwave, even the people that hate the heat. I found that odd but I think everyone is just sick and tired of the constant dreary weather we have had. Constant October skies in May/June do mess with emotions. 

If it really does go over 100 I could see real problems with the power grid. It’s heat we haven’t had in a few years and everyone’s been used to this Seattle weather. But there are plenty of ways it could still trend to run of the mill. 

[Sundog]

10 minutes ago, JustinRP37 said:

Talking to some people on the train today and everyone is super excited about a heatwave, even the people that hate the heat. I found that odd but I think everyone is just sick and tired of the constant dreary weather we have had. Constant October skies in May/June do mess with emotions. 

I am not sure they will be excited when the power goes out. Give me mist any day over that. 

Plus no one is truly excited about heatwaves if they go from AC to AC and they out of their way to avoid experiencing it. 

[JustinRP37]

2 minutes ago, jm1220 said:

If it really does go over 100 I could see real problems with the power grid. It’s heat we haven’t had in a few years and everyone’s been used to this Seattle weather. But there are plenty of ways it could still trend to run of the mill. 

That’s very true. I think people are just looking for a pattern change. I know my lawn is super green but getting red thread and other fungus now that it has been so wet and dark. 

[Sundog]

0z Euro has 6 days in a row of over 100 degrees in NYC.

We're all gonna die

[JustinRP37]

3 minutes ago, Sundog said:

I am not sure they will be excited when the power goes out. Give me mist any day over that. 

Plus no one is truly excited about heatwaves if they go from AC to AC and they out of their way to avoid experiencing it. 

I think they are thinking low 90s, not what the models are printing out. When I told a few that we could have a few days over 100 they didn’t believe me. But if the dews are also high, that will really cause power issues, if it is a drier heat, we should be able to handle it. I do see schools that are still in session closing though (although this is a good lesson as to why they should stick to a normal school year if their buildings are not air conditioned and not go until the end of June, but I digress). 

[SACRUS]

 

64 / 61  hour day 4 and hour 96 of clouds.  Perhaps we can break the low 70s today, but very unlikely to see breaks in the clouds and any blue skies yet.   Warmer tomorrow with breaks of sun and pending on how much could hit low - mid 80s ahead of storms which could drop locally 05 - .75 inches of rain in the heaviest spots Wed Pm- evening. 

Thursday with enoughh sun pushes areas to their next or first 90 before afternoon / evening storms arrive.   Fri - Sat transition to heat as ridge builds and rising heights to 594 - 600 DM into the northeast. 

Heat by Sunday with core or strongest heat looking to be in the Mon (6/23) - Fri (6/27) period.  

Beyond there overall warm - hot and wetter - near to above normal / more humid flow but elevated heights and heat building into the region in pieces.

 

6/17 : Last of the cloudy cool
6/18 - 6/19 : Warmer (90s on Thu with enough sun) but storms each night 0/5 - 0.75
6/20 - 6/28 :   Hot - could see strong heat  areawide more prominent Sun - Tue / Wed especially west
6/29 - Beyond :  Warmer / Wetter overall - Heat in pieces

 

[SnoSki14]

43 minutes ago, JustinRP37 said:

Talking to some people on the train today and everyone is super excited about a heatwave, even the people that hate the heat. I found that odd but I think everyone is just sick and tired of the constant dreary weather we have had. Constant October skies in May/June do mess with emotions. 

That tune will change real quick once the heat arrives. 100+ even with slight humidity could yield 110+ heat indices

I could see brown outs for sure if this type of prolonged heat materializes and perhaps worse if the higher end forecasts play out.

[steve392]

33 minutes ago, jm1220 said:

If it really does go over 100 I could see real problems with the power grid. It’s heat we haven’t had in a few years and everyone’s been used to this Seattle weather. But there are plenty of ways it could still trend to run of the mill. 

And if they are regular commuters, the slow downs on the rails from heat kinks and track patrols.

[SACRUS]

Records:

Highs:

EWR: 98 (1952)
NYC: 96 (1957)
LGA: 96 (1957)
JFK: 94 (2022)


Lows:

EWR: 52 (1950)
NYC: 51 (1926)
LGA: 53 (1959)
JFK: 50 (1965)

Historical:

 

1859 - Hot Santa Ana winds in southern California roasted fruit on one side at Santa Barbara. (Sandra and TI Richard Sanders - 1987)

1882 - A tornado traveled more than 200 miles across the state of Iowa killing 130 persons. The tornado touched down about ninety miles west of Grinnell, and struck the town and college around sunset, killing sixty persons, and causing more than half a million dollars damage. Traveling at nearly 60 mph, the tornado hit Mount Pleasant about 11 PM causing another half a million dollars damage. (David Ludlum)

1959: A tropical depression spawned several tornadoes, the most severe in Miami, FL since 1925. A tornado moved northeast through Miami, across Biscayne Bay and then out to sea. 77 people were injured, mostly from flying glass. On this date through the 21st, heavy rains over the southern peninsula caused considerable flooding in poorly drained and low lying agricultural areas and some residential sections. Some highways also sustained flood damage. High tides along the west coast from Tampa south damaged boat docks and caused beach erosion. 5-day rain totals were mostly 7 to 12 inches with some scattered amounts 15 inches or more reported. This Depression went on to become a hurricane and killed 33 lobster fishermen in the Canadian Maritimes. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1960: Heavy rains just west of Binghamton, NY produced 3 inches in less than 30 minutes. Flash flooding was reported in Johnson City, Vestal, and the northern sides of Endicott, NY. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

 

1965 - Holly, CO, was deluged with 11.08 inches of rain to establish a state 24 hour rainfall record. (The Weather Channel)

 

1967: This was the 24th consecutive day of at least a trace of precipitation at Denver, CO. Precipitation totaled 5.87 inches during that period; more than a third of their total annual rainfall.  (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1968: On this date through the 18th, Tropical Depression Brenda crossed Key West, FL and moved through central Florida exiting into the Atlantic near Jacksonville. This storm gained hurricane strength north of Bermuda. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1971: Hurricane Bridget passed just 30 miles off of Acapulco, MX. The storm was the worst in 25 years as winds gusted to 100 mph. The flagship of the Admiral of the Mexican Navy went down during the storm. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1978: An F2 tornado hit the showboat "Whippoorwill" on Pomona Lake in Osage County, Kansas as it left the dock for a dinner cruise. 16 of the 58 passengers drowned as the boat capsized, making the twister the deadliest tornado of the year. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)


1982: On this date through the 18th, a subtropical storm moved from the southeast Gulf of Mexico, northeast across the central Florida Peninsula into the Atlantic causing at least 12 tornadoes, On the Manatee River, 20 families were evacuated. The Peace River crested a week after the storm causing the evacuation of 130 families. A one and a half year old boy drowned in a flooded drainage ditch, and a Brevard County woman drowned when her canoe turned over, her four year old son was rescued after clinging to the canoe for six hours. 12 tornadoes were reported between the morning of the 17th and the morning of the 18th from Dade and Broward Counties to Polk and Volusia counties. On the evening of the 17th, a tornado destroyed five trailers and two cars in northwest Hendry County, killing a man in a trailer and seriously injuring his wife. Another tornado moved through the Lake Josephine area in Highlands County destroying 23 homes and mobile homes and damaging many more, injuring nine people. The 10 other tornadoes caused much property damage, but no deaths or serious injuries. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)


1985: The highest wind occurrence at Columbia, MO was recorded at 95 mph. This wind occurred on the same day that a tornado struck the Columbia Regional Airport causing damage to 22 planes.

 

1987 - Thunderstorms produced severe weather in the south central U.S. Thunderstorms in Kansas produced wind gusts to 76 mph at Lyons, and baseball size hail at Garden City. The Edwards Aquifer, which supplies water to San Antonio, TX, reached a record level of 699.2 feet following a record 18.43 inches of rain in thirty days. Torrential rains between the mid May and mid June sent 8.8 million acre feet of water down the rivers of southern Texas, the largest volume in 100 years of records. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1988 - Thunderstorms produced large hail and damaging winds in Georgia and the Carolinas. Thunderstorm winds gusted to 75 mph at Eden, NC. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1989 - Unseasonably cool air, responsible for 37 record lows in the central U.S. on the 15th and 16th, including a low of 33 degrees at Valentine NE on the 15th, overspread the eastern U.S. ending a three day seige of severe weather. (The National Weather Summary)

 

1990: Extensive damage was also reported from Climbing Hill to Correctionville. Microburst winds of 105 mph were recorded at the Spencer Airport. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1991: Record cold occurred over the Pacific Northwest. New record low temperature marks were established at Burns, OR with 31° and Yakima, WA with 36°. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)
 

 

2009: A tornado leveled a house knocks down power poles and overturns about a dozen railroad cars in Aurora, Nebraska. The tornado is rated EF2, with winds between 111 and 135 mph.

[LibertyBell]

9 hours ago, SnoSki14 said:

Personally I'd rather see some severe than record heat 

We've been severely lacking in that department 

you're not going to get that with gloom and rain every day lol, you need record heat to get severe weather.

[LibertyBell]

6 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said:

That tune will change real quick once the heat arrives. 100+ even with slight humidity could yield 110+ heat indices

I could see brown outs for sure if this type of prolonged heat materializes and perhaps worse if the higher end forecasts play out.

100 degrees is just as exciting as 20 inches of snow.  Most people are number geeks and love seeing exceptional numbers.

[LibertyBell]

50 minutes ago, JustinRP37 said:

Talking to some people on the train today and everyone is super excited about a heatwave, even the people that hate the heat. I found that odd but I think everyone is just sick and tired of the constant dreary weather we have had. Constant October skies in May/June do mess with emotions. 

It's not just that, people love exciting historical occurrences they can tell their children and grandchildren about, hitting triple digits is quite exhilarating.

 

[LibertyBell]

10 hours ago, Monty said:

At least we haven't had to hear about siphoning water from the mid-Atlantic to Mars or chopping down the forests of Canada for a day or two. I think we've gone at least three days without insecticide warfare against ticks too. 

I'm sure those 6 people who died in WV from the flash flooding would have loved that water to have sent to a future space colony.....

No talk of insecticides because I'm armed and ready with my chemical weapons now.  Because I just got my Bug Barrier and barrel and nozzle to do widespread spraying.  As soon as this rain and gloom goes away I'm committing mass murder on all bugs.  I have enough of these chemical weapons to kill everything off for at least 6 months. I'm spraying everything in sight starting Friday

I'm going to laugh when you get Lyme Disease on your ass lol. Ticks love those warm moist spots.

 

[SACRUS]

 

Most recent June heat coming around the same time or 99 or higher heatwaves

 

2024

EWR:

6/17: 92
6/18: 91
6/19: 93
6/20: 97
6/21: 100
6/22: 95 
6/23: 99
6/24: 84
6/25: 94 
6/26 : 98 

 

2021

 

EWR:

6/27:  95
6/28: 99 
6/29: 102
6/30: 103

 

2017:

EWR:

6/11: 94
6/12: 97 
6/13: 99

 

2012:

EWR:

6/20: 98 
6/21: 99 
6/22:  96


 

2011:

EWR:

6/7:  92 
6/8: 99 
6/9:  102

 

 

2008:

EWR:

6/7: 97
6/8: 96 
6/9: 99 
6/10: 99

 

 

 

[JustinRP37]

7 minutes ago, steve392 said:

And if they are regular commuters, the slow downs on the rails from heat kinks and track patrols.

It is bad enough on some of the diesel hauled coaches when the AC is on the fritz with 70s outside. I expect to see big rail issues next week. Third rail/caternary issues, coaches with no AC, you name it. 

[LibertyBell]

1 minute ago, JustinRP37 said:

It is bad enough on some of the diesel hauled coaches when the AC is on the fritz with 70s outside. I expect to see big rail issues next week. Third rail/caternary issues, coaches with no AC, you name it. 

Diesel? That should have been retired years ago.  Serves them right to use ancient highly polluting fuel.

[hudsonvalley21]

1 hour ago, IrishRob17 said:

.65" in the last 12 hours, 2.46" for the month. 

.31 here for the same duration.