LibertyBell Posted yesterday at 03:34 PM Share Posted yesterday at 03:34 PM 15 hours ago, Dark Star said: I would first like to train the birds not to crap on my car after eating berries... well I guess they're too busy eating sunflower seeds 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwx21 Posted yesterday at 03:53 PM Share Posted yesterday at 03:53 PM It sucks that we're going back to early April type of weather for Wednesday and Thursday. It's going to feel miserable with temps only in the low-mid 50s with the rain coming down. But thankfully the bad weather is going to get out of the way in time for the big holiday weekend. That's the most important thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted yesterday at 04:12 PM Share Posted yesterday at 04:12 PM 18 minutes ago, winterwx21 said: It sucks that we're going back to early April type of weather for Wednesday and Thursday. It's going to feel miserable with temps only in the low-mid 50s with the rain coming down. But thankfully the bad weather is going to get out of the way in time for the big holiday weekend. That's the most important thing. I feel like we've done fairly well this spring with limited back door/east flow garbage. We are due for a couple days here and there 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Mailman Posted yesterday at 04:38 PM Share Posted yesterday at 04:38 PM Especially as a man. Nothing worse then wearing a suit/tux in the heat. Congrats. Looking good for Sunday!Was in Columbus Ohio for a family wedding on Saturday and the weather was glorious, actually very similar to today’s NYC weather. Didn’t mind wearing a suit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted yesterday at 04:45 PM Share Posted yesterday at 04:45 PM 31 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: I feel like we've done fairly well this spring with limited back door/east flow garbage. We are due for a couple days here and there Yep actually hasn’t been too bad. But we’re never out of the woods here for those until June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 38 minutes ago, jm1220 said: Yep actually hasn’t been too bad. But we’re never out of the woods here for those until June. At EWR so far May has only had 1 below normal day (5/9). In April EWR had 10 below normal and only 4 in March. Probably 7 or 8 of the next 12 might be below normal to get closer to the 10 mark for May, overall not bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdrag Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago Wed-Thu: Looks somewhat interesting as GEFS seems to have cluster of closed 5H low near e LI. 50MPH wind gusts and 2" rain possible LI area, esp Thursday. We'll see. No thread since some ensembles are weaker and recent dryness has low flows there and high FFG, except nw NJ which may be vulnerable??? Check again tomorrow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago 1 minute ago, wdrag said: Wed-Thu: Looks somewhat interesting as GEFS seems to have cluster of closed 5H low near e LI. 50MPH wind gusts and 2" rain possible LI area, esp Thursday. We'll see. No thread since some ensembles are weaker and recent dryness has low flows there and high FFG, except nw NJ which may be vulnerable??? Check again tomorrow. Based on the marine forecast Utpton doesn’t seem that enthusiastic. Max winds 35 knots. The difference between 35 and 45 knots is substantial on the resulting seas. That will have a large impact on wether the jones beach air show can run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago 9 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said: Based on the marine forecast Utpton doesn’t seem that enthusiastic. Max winds 35 knots. The difference between 35 and 45 knots is substantial on the resulting seas. That will have a large impact on wether the jones beach air show can run. Models are often overdone on winds.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago 5 hours ago, winterwx21 said: It sucks that we're going back to early April type of weather for Wednesday and Thursday. It's going to feel miserable with temps only in the low-mid 50s with the rain coming down. But thankfully the bad weather is going to get out of the way in time for the big holiday weekend. That's the most important thing. and just after i planted my crops....for a few years i held off til jun 1st, but got suckered this year with some warmer weather. peppers and eggplants do not recover from that kind of cold. the nurseries and big box stores just keep selling the same people the same type of seedlings as the previously purchased ones die off....and yet my broccoli bolted early because it got hot for a few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago 54 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: Models are often overdone on winds.... tell it to anyone out on the sound or raritan bay, if they are crazy enough..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago Tomorrow will see temperatures top out in the upper 60s as clouds increase. It will turn noticeably cooler for the remainder of the week. The below normal temperatures could persist into early next week. A general 0.50"-1.50" rainfall is likely Wednesday into Thursday. A gusty wind will likely accompany the rainfall. Showers could persist into Friday. There is a chance that New York City could see the mercury dip below 50° for the first time this month Thursday or Friday. The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was 0.0°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was +0.1°C for the week centered around May 7. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged +0.55°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged -0.07°C. Neutral ENSO conditions will likely continue through at least mid summer. Early indications are that summer 2025 will be warmer than normal in the New York City and Philadelphia areas. The potential exists for a much warmer than normal summer (more than 1° above normal). The SOI was -0.44 yesterday. The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) was -0.435 today. Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied near 50% probability that New York City will have a warmer than normal May (1991-2020 normal). May will likely finish with a mean temperature near 63.2° (near normal). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwx21 Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago 31 minutes ago, weatherpruf said: and just after i planted my crops....for a few years i held off til jun 1st, but got suckered this year with some warmer weather. peppers and eggplants do not recover from that kind of cold. the nurseries and big box stores just keep selling the same people the same type of seedlings as the previously purchased ones die off....and yet my broccoli bolted early because it got hot for a few days. Good luck with your crops. I planted my warm weather vegetables on May 2nd and they're doing great. Tomatoes, peppers, eggplants, zucchini and pole lima beans are all growing very quickly. I don't expect the cool rainy weather to have a negative impact on them. The cold weather vegetables that I planted in March are producing nicely. I've been picking a ton of lettuce the last few weeks and the broccoli is just about ready to be picked. Again good luck with your garden this year. You said you just planted and sometimes wait until June 1st. In my opinion that's a little bit of a late start. I always plant in the first few days of May and have never had a problem. Frost threats end in late April in our area. The earlier the start the better for the plants. I already have some small tomatoes on my plants now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago 15 minutes ago, winterwx21 said: Good luck with your crops. I planted my warm weather vegetables on May 2nd and they're doing great. Tomatoes, peppers, eggplants, zucchini and pole lima beans are all growing very quickly. I don't expect the cool rainy weather to have a negative impact on them. The cold weather vegetables that I planted in March are producing nicely. I've been picking a ton of lettuce the last few weeks and the broccoli is just about ready to be picked. Again good luck with your garden this year. You said you just planted and sometimes wait until June 1st. In my opinion that's a little bit of a late start. I always plant in the first few days of May and have never had a problem. Frost threats end in late April in our area. The earlier the start the better for the plants. I already have some small tomatoes on my plants now. I think May 2020 was the last time we had a frost or freeze threat in May, nothing even remotely close to that is coming up. Upper 40s are meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago 1 hour ago, winterwx21 said: Good luck with your crops. I planted my warm weather vegetables on May 2nd and they're doing great. Tomatoes, peppers, eggplants, zucchini and pole lima beans are all growing very quickly. I don't expect the cool rainy weather to have a negative impact on them. The cold weather vegetables that I planted in March are producing nicely. I've been picking a ton of lettuce the last few weeks and the broccoli is just about ready to be picked. Again good luck with your garden this year. You said you just planted and sometimes wait until June 1st. In my opinion that's a little bit of a late start. I always plant in the first few days of May and have never had a problem. Frost threats end in late April in our area. The earlier the start the better for the plants. I already have some small tomatoes on my plants now. The warm weather vegetables will be fine with temps in the high 40s. Dews will equal the actual temps so we are no where near frost. If it’s high 40s and the dew is like 20 that’s much worse. Eggplant is probably the most susceptible to cold and it will probably slow to a crawl for a week or two. Tomato’s will keep doing what tomatoes do and grow like weeds. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycwinter Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago what a lovely few days we have had felt comfortable wearing my hoodie.. looks like hoodie weather the whole week..might not be a stretch wednesday thursday where i might even wear the winter coat with the cool temps and gusty winds.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santa Claus Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago so dry and cool 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 2 hours ago, winterwx21 said: Good luck with your crops. I planted my warm weather vegetables on May 2nd and they're doing great. Tomatoes, peppers, eggplants, zucchini and pole lima beans are all growing very quickly. I don't expect the cool rainy weather to have a negative impact on them. The cold weather vegetables that I planted in March are producing nicely. I've been picking a ton of lettuce the last few weeks and the broccoli is just about ready to be picked. Again good luck with your garden this year. You said you just planted and sometimes wait until June 1st. In my opinion that's a little bit of a late start. I always plant in the first few days of May and have never had a problem. Frost threats end in late April in our area. The earlier the start the better for the plants. I already have some small tomatoes on my plants now. i just got my broccoli in; it's a little late but we'll see. the first bunch buttoned; that happens from cold snaps followed by warmth. nursery took them back. i grow japanese eggplants and they generally collapse if we get a cold rain; same for bell and banana peppers. tomatoes are tougher. i plant zukes from seed and haven't done so yet. i have few bees so i plant self pollinating varieties, after years of no fruits at all, now i get tons. i'm also plagued by blights and can only plant certain varieties, like better boy or celebrity; in all the years, going back to the 70s, i have never had success with rutgers tomatoes, not even the new hybrid. can't grow italian eggplants either; the blights just kill them early. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 1 hour ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said: The warm weather vegetables will be fine with temps in the high 40s. Dews will equal the actual temps so we are no where near frost. If it’s high 40s and the dew is like 20 that’s much worse. Eggplant is probably the most susceptible to cold and it will probably slow to a crawl for a week or two. Tomato’s will keep doing what tomatoes do and grow like weeds. but even high 40s with dp 20 won't cause frost, for frost the dp has to be freezing or below and the temperature has to be within 5 degrees of the dp.... in other words the absolute highest temperature and dp that frost can happen is 37/32. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 3 hours ago, weatherpruf said: tell it to anyone out on the sound or raritan bay, if they are crazy enough..... On the water different story but those big winds often don't translate inland 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago 45 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: but even high 40s with dp 20 won't cause frost, for frost the dp has to be freezing or below and the temperature has to be within 5 degrees of the dp.... in other words the absolute highest temperature and dp that frost can happen is 37/32. I get that, I was just pointing out cool and dry is worse for plants then cool and wet. It’s tends to dry out the leaves regardless of lack of frost. Tonight is a great example, low of 49 forecast with a gusty wind. Not a great night for warm weather vegetables. Thursday nights forecast low is also 49 but it will be raining which will help lock in moisture in broadleaves like those of Italian Eggplant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qg_omega Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago Cold and windy out lol, wasn’t expecting the dramatic drop in temperatures 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago 16 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said: I get that, I was just pointing out cool and dry is worse for plants then cool and wet. It’s tends to dry out the leaves regardless of lack of frost. Tonight is a great example, low of 49 forecast with a gusty wind. Not a great night for warm weather vegetables. Thursday nights forecast low is also 49 but it will be raining which will help lock in moisture in broadleaves like those of Italian Eggplant. the leaves will show cold damage on peppers and eggplants; it will be a silvery sheen; then those leaves will die off. if enough of them go, rip the plants out and start over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 71 today, 51 now. Miserable wind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qg_omega Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 12 hours ago, donsutherland1 said: Tomorrow will see temperatures top out in the upper 60s as clouds increase. It will turn noticeably cooler for the remainder of the week. The below normal temperatures could persist into early next week. A general 0.50"-1.50" rainfall is likely Wednesday into Thursday. A gusty wind will likely accompany the rainfall. Showers could persist into Friday. There is a chance that New York City could see the mercury dip below 50° for the first time this month Thursday or Friday. The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was 0.0°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was +0.1°C for the week centered around May 7. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged +0.55°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged -0.07°C. Neutral ENSO conditions will likely continue through at least mid summer. Early indications are that summer 2025 will be warmer than normal in the New York City and Philadelphia areas. The potential exists for a much warmer than normal summer (more than 1° above normal). The SOI was -0.44 yesterday. The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) was -0.435 today. Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied near 50% probability that New York City will have a warmer than normal May (1991-2020 normal). May will likely finish with a mean temperature near 63.2° (near normal). Park hit 49 this morning 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve392 Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 44 degrees this morning, WOW! I could live with this till November. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 25 minutes ago, steve392 said: 44 degrees this morning, WOW! I could live with this till November. Another beautiful morning, though this morning felt more like a fall morning, except that the Sun has already been up for an hour and a half. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Star Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 15 hours ago, Brian5671 said: Models are often overdone on winds.... They almost ALWAYS are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago The Euro really blows up the coastal in our area and dumps a lot of rain. The GFS a little less so. The GGEM hits SNE more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Just now, Dark Star said: They almost ALWAYS are. The Euro loves to jack up the winds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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