BlizzardWx Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago I don't know if others feel this way, but I get really sick of the PSL interface and just making one map at a time. So I made some code that you can put into google colab. It allows you to set up your parameters via function arguments and you can select a range of years and get individual plots for all those years. It lets you do composite plots too but what I really had in mind was if you wanted to say, look at 50 hPa heights for December for the last 50 years. You can do it quickly. It will just get you 50 maps in like 45 seconds. It's just for Anomaly plots. I can't guarantee it won't break. But it seemed to work for what I tested. Anyway, I know a lot of you make these plots so maybe this helps somebody. There are some commented out examples at the bottom. psl_code.txt With that said, the reason why I made that is I wanted to look at the polar vortex position in relation to the winter. I see two current paths in model guidance. The AIFS camp that wants to keep the PV over Canada and the GEFS camp that moves it further east. Here are some matches I found. With that said, the group I grabbed for 50 hPa look colder than current guidance for mid month. So maybe my composite wasn't so great or maybe it'll trend colder at some point. Not sure. Looking ahead, the central Canada centered PV case rolls forward to a cold eastern half of the country in Jan-Feb. Not surprising given the analog years I found. It's similar in the PV-east case, but January is warmer. Maybe this is all garbage. But the thing that has caught my attention is the PV being displaced south over Canada. It just makes the cold more available and its probably why so many of the similar PV years were cold. I am not sure I buy it being as cold as these show to be honest and maybe by late December it'll be different enough that this analysis didn't mean anything. Time will tell of course. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raindancewx Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago Canadian update continues to insist on El Nino conditions developing in February at the surface. Likely by January below the surface. Fairly cold winter nationally. Has the cold look for the North-Central US I've been getting from analogs since Aug/Sept. My blend from Oct - (2013 x4, 2024 x4, 2018, 2022). Hasn't broken yet. I am expecting a pretty widespread warm up after a cold first 10 days or so - we'll see if that pans out. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krs4Lfe Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 46 minutes ago, raindancewx said: Canadian update continues to insist on El Nino conditions developing in February at the surface. Likely by January below the surface. Fairly cold winter nationally. Has the cold look for the North-Central US I've been getting from analogs since Aug/Sept. My blend from Oct - (2013 x4, 2024 x4, 2018, 2022). Hasn't broken yet. I am expecting a pretty widespread warm up after a cold first 10 days or so - we'll see if that pans out. Yes once that trough moves over Alaska in the 2nd week of December, I’d expect some milder air from the pacific to flood CONUS and lead to a moderation of temps and probably a pause in the storminess. Hopefully we can cash in before that happens 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooklynwx99 Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago lol, GEFS capitulating. much lower AO, -NAO signal strengthening too 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago The EPS has been handling this pattern pretty well over the last week or so. It has been fairly steady with the MJO 6 500 mb pattern dominating. Longer duration MJO 6 patterns tend to show a poleward shift with more ridging returning to Plains and East after the first 10 days. This matches the moderation the EPS has been showing in the pattern for mid month. So the first 10 days or so will probably be the coldest part of December relative to the means. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago Cold ENSO Winter: PNA Dec to Jan -1983-4: -0.31 to +0.97 -1984-5: -1.60 to +1.63 -1996-7: -1.23 to +0.63 -1998-9: -0.09 to +0.16 -2008-9: -1.41 to +0.61 -2010-11: -1.78 to +1.29 -2012-3: -1.01 to +0.55 -2013-4: -0.86 to +0.97 -2016-7: -0.35 to +0.28 -2021-2: -2.56 to +1.01 -2022-3: -0.66 to +0.22 -So, ALL 11 -ENSO -PNA Decs since 1983-4 switched to +PNA Jans -Moreover, the 3 strongest -PNA Decs were followed by the 3 strongest +PNA Jans: Dec 2021: -2.56; Jan 2022: +1.01 Dec 2010: -1.78; Jan 2011: +1.29 Dec 1984: -1.60; Jan 1985: +1.63 Euro Weeklies and ext-GEFS PNA forecast are both going for a solid -PNA in Dec: Based on the likelihood of a -PNA this month, January per the pattern of the last 40 years is likely to have a +PNA. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 7 hours ago, brooklynwx99 said: lol, GEFS capitulating. much lower AO, -NAO signal strengthening too Loving the end of the EPS run. You can see the ridging in the eastern PAC moving east towards the west coast. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago Today’s 2 week MJO forecasts: GEFS/EPS agree on longest winter phase 8 in 50 years that starts on Wednesday, even longer than the very long/very cold ones of Feb of 2010, Dec of 1989, and Jan of 1985: 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, GaWx said: Cold ENSO Winter: PNA Dec to Jan -1983-4: -0.31 to +0.97 -1984-5: -1.60 to +1.63 -1996-7: -1.23 to +0.63 -1998-9: -0.09 to +0.16 -2008-9: -1.41 to +0.61 -2010-11: -1.78 to +1.29 -2012-3: -1.01 to +0.55 -2013-4: -0.86 to +0.97 -2016-7: -0.35 to +0.28 -2021-2: -2.56 to +1.01 -2022-3: -0.66 to +0.22 -So, ALL 11 -ENSO -PNA Decs since 1983-4 switched to +PNA Jans -Moreover, the 3 strongest -PNA Decs were followed by the 3 strongest +PNA Jans: Dec 2021: -2.56; Jan 2022: +1.01 Dec 2010: -1.78; Jan 2011: +1.29 Dec 1984: -1.60; Jan 1985: +1.63 Euro Weeklies and ext-GEFS PNA forecast are both going for a solid -PNA in Dec: Based on the likelihood of a -PNA this month, January per the pattern of the last 40 years is likely to have a +PNA. If December ends up a solid -PNA/RNA month, then there is good evidence you provided for a +PNA January. And if it really does happen then kudos to Ray on his December forecast @40/70 Benchmark 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Change of GEFS AO/NAO forecasts in just 3 days shows how clueless they can be: is it in this case related to the 11/28/25 major SSW?? I’m asking because similar cluelessness was still the case on the day of the 2/16/23 SSWE: 1. AO Just 3 days ago (day of SSWE): ~+1 for 2nd wk of Dec Today: ~-1 for 2nd wk of Dec! 2. NAO Just 3 days ago (day of SSWE): slight +NAO 2nd wk of Dec Today: slight -NAO 2nd wk of Dec @donsutherland1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago @40/70 Benchmark Looks like your musing that the SPV regains strength back to climo/average (no not above normal strength) was a good one after all 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 52 minutes ago, snowman19 said: @40/70 Benchmark Looks like your musing that the SPV regains strength back to climo/average (no not above normal strength) was a good one after all Having a quick restrengthening of the SPV didn’t stop the rest of the winter (through early March) from being cold in these two cases and that was the case even with +NAO dominating! 2002-3: Jan 17th SSWE followed by avg just 2 weeks later 1993-4: Jan 1st very weak SPV followed by just below avg just 2 weeks later and mainly above avg rest of winter: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 51 minutes ago, snowman19 said: @40/70 Benchmark Looks like your musing that the SPV regains strength back to climo/average (no not above normal strength) was a good one after all When hasn't the polar vortex recovered strength after it was weakened ?lol 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, GaWx said: Change of GEFS AO/NAO forecasts in just 3 days shows how clueless they can be: is it in this case related to the 11/28/25 major SSW?? I’m asking because similar cluelessness was still the case on the day of the 2/16/23 SSWE: 1. AO Just 3 days ago (day of SSWE): ~+1 for 2nd wk of Dec Today: ~-1 for 2nd wk of Dec! 2. NAO Just 3 days ago (day of SSWE): slight +NAO 2nd wk of Dec Today: slight -NAO 2nd wk of Dec @donsutherland1 I suspect other factors are involved. The lag time would be too short to attribute the development to the recent SSWE. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted 4 hours ago Author Share Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, snowman19 said: If December ends up a solid -PNA/RNA month, then there is good evidence you provided for a +PNA January. And if it really does happen then kudos to Ray on his December forecast @40/70 Benchmark We shall see...long way to go. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted 4 hours ago Author Share Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, GaWx said: Having a quick restrengthening of the SPV didn’t stop the rest of the winter (through early March) from being cold in these two cases and that was the case even with +NAO dominating! 2002-3: Jan 17th SSWE followed by avg just 2 weeks later 1993-4: Jan 1st very weak SPV followed by just below avg just 2 weeks later and mainly above avg rest of winter: Absolutely. I expect this later in January and into February. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted 4 hours ago Author Share Posted 4 hours ago 27 minutes ago, MJO812 said: When hasn't the polar vortex recovered strength after it was weakened ?lol I don't know, ask the author of the tweet you quoted pertaining to a reversal around xmas. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 7 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: I don't know, ask the author of the tweet you quoted pertaining to a reversal around xmas. Lol not just a total wind reversal and major SSWE but an SPV split by Christmas week. That Moregarbage prediction was one for the ages lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leo2000 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 2 hours ago, GaWx said: Today’s 2 week MJO forecasts: GEFS/EPS agree on longest winter phase 8 in 50 years that starts on Wednesday, even longer than the very long/very cold ones of Feb of 2010, Dec of 1989, and Jan of 1985: So we should expect the models to be getting colder?. For some reason the Ak vortex is still there plus the EPS this morning did not look that cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, leo2000 said: So we should expect the models to be getting colder?. For some reason the Ak vortex is still there plus the EPS this morning did not look that cold. I don’t know as the models are already very cold with MB normal in the NE, Mid-Atlantic, and Midwest for the 10 days that start with the start of phase 8 on 12/3: 6Z GEFS: 0Z EPS: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhiEaglesfan712 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 3 minutes ago, GaWx said: I don’t know as the models are already very cold with MB normal in the NE, Mid-Atlantic, and Midwest: 6Z GEFS: 0Z EPS: We need to take advantage of this. If we come out of this with very little to no snow, the winter will be in trouble. It would be like 2022-23 all over again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leo2000 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 28 minutes ago, GaWx said: I don’t know as the models are already very cold with MB normal in the NE, Mid-Atlantic, and Midwest for the 10 days that start with the start of phase 8 on 12/3: 6Z GEFS: 0Z EPS: Yeah overall cold but I don't like seeing those low heights over Alaska ak vortex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Judah Cohen 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 3 minutes ago, MJO812 said: Judah Cohen The NY Post is a tabloid that’s not surprisingly making things sound over the top (and there’s even a typo for goodness sakes): -the NE is to be blasted with the “most extreme cold on Earth” per “shocking new forecasts”. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegan_edible Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 10 minutes ago, MJO812 said: Judah Cohen no matter what it is, weather, news, politics... i would advise against using the ny post to showcase credible information 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted 59 minutes ago Share Posted 59 minutes ago 36 minutes ago, MJO812 said: Judah Cohen K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted 35 minutes ago Share Posted 35 minutes ago 1 hour ago, leo2000 said: Yeah overall cold but I don't like seeing those low heights over Alaska ak vortex. The AK vortex is there for only 5 days (days 5-10) after which it’s pushed well inland. By day 15, it’s way different per 12Z ens: 12Z GEFS: 12Z EPS: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terpeast Posted 30 minutes ago Share Posted 30 minutes ago 4 minutes ago, GaWx said: The AK vortex is there for only 5 days (days 5-10) after which it’s pushed well inland. By day 15, it’s way different per 12Z ens: 12Z GEFS: 12Z EPS: I was expecting a mid-month warmup, but that's looking more and more temporary. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakePaste25 Posted 17 minutes ago Share Posted 17 minutes ago I think it’s a downstream consequence of re-establishing the equatorward pacific jet and rebuilding the -EPO. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted 4 minutes ago Share Posted 4 minutes ago Here’s 12 minutes ago, LakePaste25 said: I think it’s a downstream consequence of re-establishing the equatorward pacific jet and rebuilding the -EPO. Here’s the 12Z EPS’ 360 showing very cold in W Canada poised to possibly plunge into the N Plains soon afterward: (taking with a grain for now since its out at 360 but MJO would support cold returning to the Midwest/NE): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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