bluewave Posted July 31, 2024 Share Posted July 31, 2024 12 hours ago, jm1220 said: Once again today S wind gusts to near 40 at JFK. Wow. This looks like the greatest temperature gradient between JFK and Central New Jersey we have ever seen in July. Hightstown, NJ just set set their all-time July average high temperature of 91.8°. JFK has only averaged 84.3° which is well down the list at 20th warmest. So people on the South Shore got a real gift this July with the afternoon average highs so comfortable compared to NJ. But there is probably plenty of sand blown onto the streets especially near the beach with so many afternoons with this string of an Ambrose Jet. Time Series Summary for HIGHTSTOWN 2 W, NJ - Month of JulClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1 2024 91.8 6 2 2022 91.4 0 3 1955 91.2 0 4 2020 91.0 0 5 2010 90.2 0 6 2011 90.0 0 - 1999 90.0 0 7 1894 89.9 1 8 2023 89.8 0 - 2019 89.8 0 9 1910 89.5 0 Time Series Summary for JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT, NY - Month of JulClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1 2010 89.0 0 2 2011 88.6 0 3 2022 86.9 0 4 1993 86.8 0 5 2019 86.7 0 - 1966 86.7 0 6 2013 86.5 0 - 1999 86.5 0 7 2020 86.4 0 - 1983 86.4 0 8 1949 86.2 0 9 2002 86.1 0 10 2012 86.0 0 11 2016 85.7 0 12 1963 85.5 0 13 2015 85.2 0 14 1994 85.1 0 15 1974 85.0 0 16 2023 84.8 0 - 2008 84.8 0 - 1955 84.8 0 17 1971 84.7 0 18 1968 84.5 0 19 1952 84.4 0 20 2024 84.3 1 - 1970 84.3 0 - 1961 84.3 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted July 31, 2024 Share Posted July 31, 2024 77 / 71 cloudy with showers around. Warm front pushing through. Where there's clearing should get close to or to 90. Thu the driest and sunniest day of the next 5 and should be the hottest mid - upper 90s in the warm spots. The weekend seed a trough swing through and chance for more widespread storms, clouds could get in the way of extending or getting a heatwave. Could see some hefty rain totals from slow moving storms especially North and e. Overall warm and humid with storm chances next week. Watch tropics and stalled out systems. Enough sun gets to 90, clouds and showers each day. Way beyond ridge west trough east should lead to near normal by day 10 ahead of next heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted July 31, 2024 Share Posted July 31, 2024 Storms Fri evening - the weekend and more next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted July 31, 2024 Share Posted July 31, 2024 Sprinkles here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted July 31, 2024 Share Posted July 31, 2024 1 hour ago, Allsnow said: 0.00 overnight are they still expecting a busy tropical hurricane season? It feels like it’s been very slow Season doesn't really get going til August. That said, the Nina is not going crazy so that could lead to a reduced # of storms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted July 31, 2024 Share Posted July 31, 2024 17 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: Season doesn't really get going til August. That said, the Nina is not going crazy so that could lead to a reduced # of storms. We shall see what happens. Seldom do these cold/snowy or busy hurricanes season forecast ever work out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted July 31, 2024 Share Posted July 31, 2024 15 minutes ago, Allsnow said: We shall see what happens. Rarely do these cold/snowy or busy hurricanes season forecast ever work out Part of the issue is that everyone went hysterical on the big season so the expectations are high...Even a busy season does not alway equate to landfalls... and the cold/snowy forecasts are a staple from certain forecasters-just have to see through the hype....Last winter even remotely cold snowy was 20-21...and even that was a great 3 week stretch and not the whole winter or anything close to it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANDA Posted July 31, 2024 Share Posted July 31, 2024 .01" rainfall last 24 hours. Let's continue to play kick the can. Very dry and disappointing "wet stretch" especially considering the high DP pattern that has been in place for the last 3-4 weeks. Some places haven done well but those places are a small percentage of this sub forum. It has been dry. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted July 31, 2024 Share Posted July 31, 2024 12 minutes ago, MANDA said: .01" rainfall last 24 hours. Let's continue to play kick the can. Very dry and disappointing "wet stretch" especially considering the high DP pattern that has been in place for the last 3-4 weeks. Some places haven done well but those places are a small percentage of this sub forum. It has been dry. Models are very active inside 5 days then is just disappears as we get closer. Hopefully, that doesn’t happen with Friday into the weekend 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted July 31, 2024 Author Share Posted July 31, 2024 Just now, Allsnow said: Models are very active inside 5 days then is just disappears as we get closer. Hopefully, that doesn’t happen with Friday into the weekend Nam is quite wet this afternoon lol 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dark Star Posted July 31, 2024 Share Posted July 31, 2024 55 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: Part of the issue is that everyone went hysterical on the big season so the expectations are high...Even a busy season does not alway equate to landfalls... and the cold/snowy forecasts are a staple from certain forecasters-just have to see through the hype....Last winter even remotely cold snowy was 20-21...and even that was a great 3 week stretch and not the whole winter or anything close to it. As global temperatures rise, I guess it's easy just to assume that this will spawn more tropical systems? A novice could just forecast 2 storms above the average... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted July 31, 2024 Share Posted July 31, 2024 3 minutes ago, Dark Star said: As global temperatures rise, I guess it's easy just to assume that this will spawn more tropical systems? A novice could just forecast 2 storms above the average... Kind of like monthly temp departures--every month is +2 around here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANDA Posted July 31, 2024 Share Posted July 31, 2024 10 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: Kind of like monthly temp departures--every month is +2 around here. Yes. At least 2 above and this is against our highest set of 30 year normals. Just seems near impossible to get a month 2 below normal at this point. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwx21 Posted July 31, 2024 Share Posted July 31, 2024 37 minutes ago, Allsnow said: Models are very active inside 5 days then is just disappears as we get closer. Hopefully, that doesn’t happen with Friday into the weekend Yeah I'm not gonna get my hopes up too high for Friday into the weekend after what has happened the last few weeks. As Manda said, the lack of rain this summer has been very frustrating considering all the high humidity we've had. Storms this afternoon look spotty. I hope we get lucky with something but it's only a slim chance. I'll probably be watering the vegetable garden again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted July 31, 2024 Author Share Posted July 31, 2024 6 minutes ago, winterwx21 said: Yeah I'm not gonna get my hopes up too high for Friday into the weekend after what has happened the last few weeks. As Manda said, the lack of rain this summer has been very frustrating considering all the high humidity we've had. Storms this afternoon look spotty. I hope we get lucky with something but it's only a slim chance. I'll probably be watering the vegetable garden again. Yeah at least give me sunny and dry if it's not going to rain. All these clouds and humidity is useless 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted July 31, 2024 Share Posted July 31, 2024 20 minutes ago, MANDA said: Yes. At least 2 above and this is against our highest set of 30 year normals. Just seems near impossible to get a month 2 below normal at this point. The only month in recent years we have been able to get something approaching regular cold departures has been November. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted July 31, 2024 Share Posted July 31, 2024 13 minutes ago, bluewave said: The only month in recent years we have been able to get something approaching regular cold departures has been November. I was just noticed that when I was looking at some climate stats for the Ohio Valley region the other day. November is by far the month that's changed the least over the past 3 or 4 decades, which is odd. It might just be a mean reversion type thing, however. If you look at older historical data, November had previously been one of the fastest warming months of the 20th century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted July 31, 2024 Author Share Posted July 31, 2024 Hrrr has some storms now across parts of nj and north and east of the city Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted July 31, 2024 Share Posted July 31, 2024 1 hour ago, Stormlover74 said: Yeah at least give me sunny and dry if it's not going to rain. All these clouds and humidity is useless Agreed. We have had lots of cloudy days since the start of last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted July 31, 2024 Share Posted July 31, 2024 1 hour ago, Stormlover74 said: Yeah at least give me sunny and dry if it's not going to rain. All these clouds and humidity is useless this has to be ewr's least rainy humid month 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwx21 Posted July 31, 2024 Share Posted July 31, 2024 1 hour ago, Stormlover74 said: Hrrr has some storms now across parts of nj and north and east of the city Yep on the 14z run, but then the HRRR took away our storms on the 15z run lol. Who the heck knows. A few areas will get lucky this afternoon and evening, but too bad it's only isolated activity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Star Posted July 31, 2024 Share Posted July 31, 2024 53 minutes ago, winterwx21 said: Yep on the 14z run, but then the HRRR took away our storms on the 15z run lol. Who the heck knows. A few areas will get lucky this afternoon and evening, but too bad it's only isolated activity. I take it the HRRR uses the most recent sounding data? It seems to change by the hour, sometimes quite drastically. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted July 31, 2024 Share Posted July 31, 2024 2 hours ago, TheClimateChanger said: I was just noticed that when I was looking at some climate stats for the Ohio Valley region the other day. November is by far the month that's changed the least over the past 3 or 4 decades, which is odd. It might just be a mean reversion type thing, however. If you look at older historical data, November had previously been one of the fastest warming months of the 20th century. It’s one of the few times of the year when MJO 5 is cold for us. With the record WPAC warm pool most other MJO 4-7 periods are warm. So November is the only real outlier month for us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted July 31, 2024 Share Posted July 31, 2024 5 minutes ago, bluewave said: It’s one of the few times of the year when MJO 5 is cold for us. With the record WPAC warm pool most other MJO 4-7 periods are warm. So November is the only real outlier month for us. Interesting observation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted July 31, 2024 Share Posted July 31, 2024 5 hours ago, Stormlover74 said: yay 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPizz Posted July 31, 2024 Share Posted July 31, 2024 25 minutes ago, forkyfork said: yay Haha, what an awful model 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted July 31, 2024 Share Posted July 31, 2024 3 minutes ago, FPizz said: Haha, what an awful model it's still showing a cluster moving through. we just need storms to organize quickly where there's currently nothing 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted July 31, 2024 Share Posted July 31, 2024 7th wettest July for Cape May and 6th driest at SMQ. Time Series Summary for CAPE MAY 2 NW, NJ - Month of JulClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1 1959 10.52 0 2 1956 8.55 0 3 2000 8.38 0 4 2017 8.33 0 5 1945 7.99 0 6 1958 7.21 0 7 2024 6.85 4 8 1989 6.60 0 - 1926 6.60 0 9 1896 6.55 16 10 2001 6.17 0 Time Series Summary for SOMERSET AIRPORT, NJ - Month of JulClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1 2013 0.07 2 2 2003 0.10 25 3 1999 0.61 0 4 2022 0.86 0 5 2002 1.00 0 6 2024 1.64 1 7 2015 1.88 0 8 2001 2.19 0 9 2005 2.78 0 10 2011 2.90 0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted July 31, 2024 Share Posted July 31, 2024 July finished with a preliminary mean temperature of 79.7° in New York City. That was 2.2° above normal. Tomorrow will be variably cloudy. Some showers and thunderstorms are possible. Heat will likely return during the first week in August. The latest summer guidance continues to suggest a warmer to much warmer than normal summer lies ahead. The extended range guidance continues to suggest that August will likely be warmer than normal. However, there is a possibility that the second week of the month could feature a cool shot. The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was -0.7°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was 0.1°C for the week centered around July 24. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged -0.48°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged +0.27°C. Neutral ENSO conditions will likely evolve into a La Niña event during the early fall. The SOI was -23.33 today. The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) was +0.407 today. This will be the last discussion until after mid-August. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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