April 2024

[bluewave]

Figures the first record low of the year down to 33° at Islip would wait until late April.

https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=kisp

Islip

Low 33

[LibertyBell]

3 hours ago, MJO812 said:

43 here

it got down into the upper 30s last night!

[LibertyBell]

15 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Figures the first record low of the year down to 33° at Islip would wait until late April.

https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=kisp

Islip

Low 33

Gabreski also had a record low, 24 I think?

[LibertyBell]

1 hour ago, TJW014 said:

Starting off at 24. Bird bath is frozen. 

Same low as Westhampton and a record there

[rclab]

1 hour ago, gravitylover said:

As there is less and less cold air available to tap wouldn't these late season freezes be less dramatic? 

Good morning gravity. From what I’ve learned, just reading on the sub forums, the drops in temperature, as you get close to the warm season, have a lot to do with radiational cooling. My postage stamp surrounded by brick, concrete and asphalt rarely has such drops. Today my state of the, half century ago, art thermometer registered close to 50 in the shade at 8:15. Central park was 48 at 07:51. The cooler mornings may well be a blessing in the months to come. Stay well, as always ….

[psv88]

30 back home in commack. In Hershey now looking forward to the 80s forecasted for Sunday 

[bluewave]

2 hours ago, gravitylover said:

As there is less and less cold air available to tap wouldn't these late season freezes be less dramatic? 

My guess is that the much stronger spring blocking at times in recent years has been compensating to some extent. The hard freeze last May over the interior occurred with one of the strongest -EPO +PNA blocks on record for that time of year. But the stronger spring blocking at times can’t affect the earlier arrival of spring. So we get these overlaps leading to damaging freezes in susceptible arras. 

 

[lee59]

Low 30s here, light frost.

[LibertyBell]

11 minutes ago, bluewave said:

My guess is that the much stronger spring blocking at times in recent years has been compensating to some extent. The hard freeze last May over the interior occurred with one of the strongest -EPO +PNA blocks on record for that time of year. But the stronger spring blocking at times can’t affect the earlier arrival of spring. So we get these overlaps leading to damaging freezes in susceptible arras. 

 

absolutely-- we don't exist in a vacuum.  The planet can to some extent self regulate and nature tries to balance out the human caused changes by adjusting in return.

 

[LibertyBell]

13 minutes ago, bluewave said:

My guess is that the much stronger spring blocking at times in recent years has been compensating to some extent. The hard freeze last May over the interior occurred with one of the strongest -EPO +PNA blocks on record for that time of year. But the stronger spring blocking at times can’t affect the earlier arrival of spring. So we get these overlaps leading to damaging freezes in susceptible arras. 

 

what caused the crazy May 9, 2020 arctic shot, Chris?

was it the strongest arctic shot in May since May 9, 1977 or maybe even stronger?

 

[MANDA]

Some cold mins in the spots that radiate well.  Overnight low of 31 here.

[Allsnow]

Might need rain soon…

[MANDA]

5 minutes ago, Allsnow said:

Might need rain soon…

Pattern looks locked in for a while.  No meaningful rain next 7-10 days, perhaps even beyond.  Wet corridor next week or so running from Texas to western Lakes.  Some excessive totals likely there.  Dry here.  Overall soil moisture is in good shape as are watershed supplies.  Topsoil will dry notably over the next week though.  On the bright side the grass seed I planted is doing well.  Light watering daily is enough and no heavy rain to wash it away.  Timed that right.

[bluewave]

25 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

what caused the crazy May 9, 2020 arctic shot, Chris?

was it the strongest arctic shot in May since May 9, 1977 or maybe even stronger?

 

The winter was dominated by the record  polar vortex over the Arctic which got driven south by the strong -EPO block in early May.  

[LibertyBell]

6 minutes ago, bluewave said:

The winter was dominated by the record  polar vortex over the Arctic which got driven south by the strong -EPO block in early May.  

we don't snow anymore even in the winter without these strong EPO blocks.

[Brian5671]

Had a solid frost here on everything this AM. Hopefully that's it for the season.

[LibertyBell]

13 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

Had a solid frost here on everything this AM. Hopefully that's it for the season.

Maybe one last one tonight

 

[bluewave]

Even areas of Long Island closer to the LIE could reach the 80s on Monday ahead of any backdoor cold front. 

 

[FPizz]

30.8.  

Trenton tied a record low of 33 that was from 1919.

[forkyfork]

12 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Even areas of Long Island closer to the LIE could reach the 80s on Monday ahead of any backdoor cold front. 

 

those fronts can give us a small boost from compressional heating

[LibertyBell]

2 minutes ago, forkyfork said:

those fronts can give us a small boost from compressional heating

Is this how it's often hottest just after a cold front passes?

 

[jm1220]

21 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Even areas of Long Island closer to the LIE could reach the 80s on Monday ahead of any backdoor cold front. 

 

If we have westerly vs southerly flow on Mon it should be off to the races. Any downslope component/help and compressional heating near the sea breeze boundary will rocket us up E of the city. 

[Stormlover74]

wow haven't seen him in years. I know he had been ill

[winterwx21]

2 hours ago, MANDA said:

Pattern looks locked in for a while.  No meaningful rain next 7-10 days, perhaps even beyond.  Wet corridor next week or so running from Texas to western Lakes.  Some excessive totals likely there.  Dry here.  Overall soil moisture is in good shape as are watershed supplies.  Topsoil will dry notably over the next week though.  On the bright side the grass seed I planted is doing well.  Light watering daily is enough and no heavy rain to wash it away.  Timed that right.

The soil has really dried out here. I'm watering the vegetable garden every other day now. I'd like to see some rain, but as you said it appears the pattern will be dry for quite awhile. A couple chances next week (Tuesday and Friday), but they don't look impressive right now. I hope this isn't gonna be a case of going from one extreme to another after the very wet pattern we had. 

[bluewave]

1 hour ago, LibertyBell said:

Is this how it's often hottest just after a cold front passes?

 

Usually somewhere between JFK and LGA eastward along the LIE out to near Commack just north and west of where the sea breeze front sets up.

 

 

[LibertyBell]

24 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Usually somewhere between JFK and LGA eastward along the LIE out to near Commack just north and west of where the sea breeze front sets up.

 

 

hey, maybe we can use this to define new record highs?

does Nassau county have something like this for the area around Mineola?

[weatherpruf]

1 hour ago, winterwx21 said:

The soil has really dried out here. I'm watering the vegetable garden every other day now. I'd like to see some rain, but as you said it appears the pattern will be dry for quite awhile. A couple chances next week (Tuesday and Friday), but they don't look impressive right now. I hope this isn't gonna be a case of going from one extreme to another after the very wet pattern we had. 

Lost a couple leaf lettuce plants, a cauliflower and basil last night. Wasn't ready. Lettuce, despite being a cooler weather crop, is mostly water, so if it's cold, forget it. Supposed to water them the day before a frost, wasn't expecting ice on the windows today. I mean, it's freakin late April.

[winterwx21]

9 minutes ago, weatherpruf said:

Lost a couple leaf lettuce plants, a cauliflower and basil last night. Wasn't ready. Lettuce, despite being a cooler weather crop, is mostly water, so if it's cold, forget it. Supposed to water them the day before a frost, wasn't expecting ice on the windows today. I mean, it's freakin late April.

The thing is though, lettuce is supposed to be planted in late March in this area. If you plant lettuce now, it's way too late of a start since it will be maturing in weather that's too warm. Maybe leaf lettuce is more vulnerable, but I've never had a problem with my romaine lettuce plants taking a frost/freeze. I was just outside and they still look great after last last night's freeze. No problem for the broccoli, peas and radishes as well. I did water very well yesterday. My lettuce is just about ready and I'm gonna pick some today. 

[jm1220]

2 hours ago, bluewave said:

Usually somewhere between JFK and LGA eastward along the LIE out to near Commack just north and west of where the sea breeze front sets up.

 

 

Would be funny how often times in Long Beach our hottest temps during a heat wave everywhere else would be as it’s ending after the cold front passes and the wind turns N with the hot air from the city coming through. 

[bluewave]

1 hour ago, LibertyBell said:

hey, maybe we can use this to define new record highs?

does Nassau county have something like this for the area around Mineola?

I believe that 108° In Mineola during 2010 was probably the highest temperature on record for Long Island. But the site shut down in 2011. Ed was the president of the Long Island Weather Observers. The site was in operation from 1938 to 2011. His observations were featured every evening on News 12 for years. 
 

Cold Snap Tests Service Agencies

The New York Times

https://www.nytimes.com › New York › Long Island

 

 

 

 

In Mineola, temperatures hit a low of 6 degrees on Dec. 23, according to Ed Lynt, president of the Long Island Weather Observers, a volunteer organization

 

 

Time Series Summary for MINEOLA, NY - Jan through Dec
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.

Rank	Year	Highest Max Temperature	Missing Count
1	2010	108	0
2	2001	105	32
3	1999	103	10
-	1966	103	0
5	1988	102	50
-	1975	102	1
-	1948	102	1
8	2002	101	0
-	1973	101	0
-	1968	101	0
-	1952	101	0
12	2006	100	1
-	1993	100	8
-	1991	100	0
-	1957	100	12
-	1955	100	3