Extended summer stormlover74 future snow hole banter thread 23

[LibertyBell]

I read this article too and while it mentions a snow drought, it says the snow pack has been building up with the last few storms.

 

https://www.latimes.com/environment/story/2024-01-31/amid-storms-california-snowpack-remains-far-below-average

This is from the end of January so still doesn't cover the current storm.

[IrishRob17]

22 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Well, now they're saying there's no more drought in California

and this is even before the current deluge.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-11-07/california-is-drought-free

 

There’s no drought anywhere in California: How long that’s expected to last, and why

You mentioned "the west" and "at least another decade"...

[LibertyBell]

11 minutes ago, IrishRob17 said:

You mentioned "the west" and "at least another decade"...

Yea, my bad, I'm just looking at if this continues because of the -PDO we've had the last few years, so it's now two years in a row.

The snow drought is still there though, so I can see how the drought can come back quicker than it normally would, because they don't have that much "water in the bank"-- snowpack in the Sierra is only 65% of normal (this is before the update with the latest storm.)

 

[IrishRob17]

6 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Yea, my bad, I'm just looking at if this continues because of the -PDO we've had the last few years, so it's now two years in a row.

The snow drought is still there though, so I can see how the drought can come back quicker than it normally would, because they don't have that much "water in the bank"-- snowpack in the Sierra is only 65% of normal (this is before the update with the latest storm.)

 

And Lake Mead is improving but has a ways to go still.  Summer of 1983, and 1999 apparently, were the last times it was full.https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/150111/lake-mead-keeps-dropping  To be fair, Lake Mead is also impacted by the tremendous growth out there.

[LibertyBell]

3 minutes ago, IrishRob17 said:

And Lake Mead is improving but has a ways to go still.  Summer of 1983 was the last time it was full.

When a multidecade drought does that to a large lake, it'll take multiple decades for them to recover.  Meanwhile getting the snowpack back up will help a lot (even if it means our winters will suck for awhile lol.)

 

[Rjay]

10 hours ago, Nibor said:

Jfc 14 in a row

19. You didn't see the hidden ones

[WestBabylonWeather]

11 hours ago, Nibor said:

Jfc 14 in a row

 

1 hour ago, Rjay said:

19. You didn't see the hidden ones

Lol

[Roger Smith]

Nature created many dry lakes in western interior, now we've created a few more. 

[LibertyBell]

5 hours ago, Rjay said:

19. You didn't see the hidden ones

That's right, but none of them were off topic, we were just talking about alternate ways to have snowy winters.

It's completely different to be making 19 posts in a row while most people are sleeping vs doing it when everyone's busy posting, there was literally no one else awake at that time plus I love to write quickly  I love blogging on here.

 

[LibertyBell]

4 hours ago, Roger Smith said:

Nature created many dry lakes in western interior, now we've created a few more. 

True the same thing happens when we have a powerful coastal storm on the east coast, we sometimes create new inlets.

[Nibor]

6 hours ago, Rjay said:

19. You didn't see the hidden ones

[forkyfork]

last summer's euro seasonal forecast wasn't perfect but it did catch the blocky idea. look what it's showing for this summer 

 

 

[BxEngine]

1 hour ago, forkyfork said:

last summer's euro seasonal forecast wasn't perfect but it did catch the blocky idea. look what it's showing for this summer 

 

 

Dont care just gimme another sandy. Knock out internet access hopefully. Lol

[LibertyBell]

5 hours ago, forkyfork said:

last summer's euro seasonal forecast wasn't perfect but it did catch the blocky idea. look what it's showing for this summer 

 

 

Wow, does it look like a 2010 repeat? El nino to la nina transitions are very hot!  The following winters are usually nice too

 

[North and West]

Wow, does it look like a 2010 repeat? El nino to la nina transitions are very hot!  The following winters are usually nice too
 

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[Nibor]

Bro... lmfao

[LibertyBell]

15 minutes ago, Nibor said:

Bro... lmfao

It was fun, but we called a truce lol

 

[IrishRob17]

11 hours ago, Nibor said:

Bro... lmfao

 

11 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

It was fun, but we called a truce lol

 

So the theory is if one multi-posts in the middle of the night when no one is around then no one sees it? That's been debunked. 

[LibertyBell]

5 minutes ago, IrishRob17 said:

 

So the theory is if one multi-posts in the middle of the night when no one is around then no one sees it? That's been debunked. 

Nooo, it's that they wouldn't be multiple posts if they happened during the day (or at any normal time) because there would be a lot of other people posting in between.

 

[donsutherland1]

Yet another snowfall opportunity--at least as promised by the GFS--appears to be headed for life support and then its possible demise. A light event still remains plausible, but worries that such an event could also collapse abound. Tweeted calls for the 1961 Kennedy Inaugural storm and 1969 Lindsay storm, extreme 46-day snow maps, and calls for 0-degree readings in New York City, lie in ruins.

There are even suggestions that Fall 2023 never really ended. Instead, fall will complete a smooth seasonal transition to Spring 2024 sometime next month. Maybe Taylor Swift's next album will feature "Cruel Winter?"

So, what are area snow geese to do?

Rely on memories of past storms? Those memories are growing hazier with the passage of time. What about younger members?

Maybe the local art gallery or museum can refresh memories or remind one of what a snowy landscape looks like.

And maybe Winter 2023-24 can muster up the ingredients needed for a decent snowfall before spring takes hold for good.

[rclab]

15 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said:

Yet another snowfall opportunity--at least as promised by the GFS--appears to be headed for life support and then its possible demise. A light event still remains plausible, but worries that such an event could also collapse abound. Tweeted calls for the 1961 Kennedy Inaugural storm and 1969 Lindsay storm, extreme 46-day snow maps, and calls for 0-degree readings in New York City, lie in ruins.

There are even suggestions that Fall 2023 never really ended. Instead, fall will complete a smooth seasonal transition to Spring 2024 sometime next month. Maybe Taylor Swift's next album will feature "Cruel Winter?"

So, what are area snow geese to do?

Rely on memories of past storms? Those memories are growing hazier with the passage of time. What about younger members?

Maybe the local art gallery or museum can refresh memories or remind one of what a snowy landscape looks like.

And maybe Winter 2023-24 can muster up the ingredients needed for a decent snowfall before spring takes hold for good.

Than you Don. A poignant illustration as is this: Stay well, as always ….

 

[LibertyBell]

22 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said:

Yet another snowfall opportunity--at least as promised by the GFS--appears to be headed for life support and then its possible demise. A light event still remains plausible, but worries that such an event could also collapse abound. Tweeted calls for the 1961 Kennedy Inaugural storm and 1969 Lindsay storm, extreme 46-day snow maps, and calls for 0-degree readings in New York City, lie in ruins.

There are even suggestions that Fall 2023 never really ended. Instead, fall will complete a smooth seasonal transition to Spring 2024 sometime next month. Maybe Taylor Swift's next album will feature "Cruel Winter?"

So, what are area snow geese to do?

Rely on memories of past storms? Those memories are growing hazier with the passage of time. What about younger members?

Maybe the local art gallery or museum can refresh memories or remind one of what a snowy landscape looks like.

And maybe Winter 2023-24 can muster up the ingredients needed for a decent snowfall before spring takes hold for good.

They brought in January 1961 into this too? LMAO Why not February 1961? January 1961 was the least of the three big storms that winter.

 

[donsutherland1]

6 minutes ago, rclab said:

Than you Don. A poignant illustration as is this: Stay well, as always ….

 

A great poem that fits this winter very well.

[donsutherland1]

Just now, LibertyBell said:

They brought in January 1961 into this too? LMAO Why not February 1961? January 1961 was the least of the three big storms that winter.

 

January 1961 was referenced last month. Even the Blizzard of 1978 (February) was referenced.

[LibertyBell]

6 minutes ago, rclab said:

Than you Don. A poignant illustration as is this: Stay well, as always ….

 

Wow I wrote a short story called The Last Snow back in February 1989 as a sophomore in high school when yet another busted call for 6-8 inches turned into virga.  It was a story set in the future about a group of storm chasers celebrating the last snowstorm that the Planet Earth would ever see.

 

[Brian5671]

31 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said:

Yet another snowfall opportunity--at least as promised by the GFS--appears to be headed for life support and then its possible demise. A light event still remains plausible, but worries that such an event could also collapse abound. Tweeted calls for the 1961 Kennedy Inaugural storm and 1969 Lindsay storm, extreme 46-day snow maps, and calls for 0-degree readings in New York City, lie in ruins.

There are even suggestions that Fall 2023 never really ended. Instead, fall will complete a smooth seasonal transition to Spring 2024 sometime next month. Maybe Taylor Swift's next album will feature "Cruel Winter?"

So, what are area snow geese to do?

Rely on memories of past storms? Those memories are growing hazier with the passage of time. What about younger members?

Maybe the local art gallery or museum can refresh memories or remind one of what a snowy landscape looks like.

And maybe Winter 2023-24 can muster up the ingredients needed for a decent snowfall before spring takes hold for good.

I'm hoping for one moderate or big event at this point.   We are unlikely to get any sustained cold weather pattern (a week doesn't count)  My kids wonder what happened-there were born in 2009 so almost every winter up until they were about 10 was snowy.  I said welcome to my childhood kiddos....

[Brian5671]

8 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said:

January 1961 was referenced last month. Even the Blizzard of 1978 (February) was referenced.

1899 as well.   Completely grasping at straws at this point.    

[donsutherland1]

1 minute ago, Brian5671 said:

I'm hoping for one moderate or big event at this point.   We are unlikely to get any sustained cold weather pattern (a week doesn't count)  My kids wonder what happened-there were born in 2009 so almost every winter up until they were about 10 was snowy.  I said welcome to my childhood kiddos....

My 12-year-old raises similar questions.

[LibertyBell]

4 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

I'm hoping for one moderate or big event at this point.   We are unlikely to get any sustained cold weather pattern (a week doesn't count)  My kids wonder what happened-there were born in 2009 so almost every winter up until they were about 10 was snowy.  I said welcome to my childhood kiddos....

too bad they were too little to remember 2009-10 and 2010-11

2010-11 honestly was our best winter since 1995-96.

I've not seen actual snow cover that high before or since.

Snowstorm on top of snowstorm on top of snowstorm.

 

[Brian5671]

1 minute ago, LibertyBell said:

too bad they were too little to remember 2009-10 and 2010-11

2010-11 honestly was our best winter since 1995-96.

I've not seen actual snow cover that high before or since.

Snowstorm on top of snowstorm on top of snowstorm.

 

Even 12-13--they kind of missed Sandy and then the 30 inch blizzard....