cleetussnow Posted February 18, 2022 Author Share Posted February 18, 2022 Yeah Doorman good maps there! I was wondering what it would take to help us forget December and all the missed chanced in January and the pattern coming up could go a long way toward that. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleetussnow Posted February 18, 2022 Author Share Posted February 18, 2022 1 minute ago, MJO812 said: 45 and windy out Temps are falling like a rock same mid 30s here at HPN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 with more heatwaves and flooding events the last thing we need is a reduction of the tree canopy 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intensewind002 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 1 hour ago, guinness77 said: My kids’ school has a delayed 2-hour opening because of no power with the possibility of it being closed all day depending on whether it comes back on or not. Oh that’s unfortunate, my parents house in Lindenhurst is all good from what I heard. I’m 15 years older than my sister and from I’ve heard she didnt any school delays due to any power issues in the neighborhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volcanic Winter Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 12 minutes ago, forkyfork said: with more heatwaves and flooding events the last thing we need is a reduction of the tree canopy We’re doing a great job of that ourselves without the help of Mother Nature. We’ve really borked the carbon cycle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee59 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 With all the wind events we have had, Long Island has not had a direct hit from a hurricane in almost 40 years. Another thing that seems to not happen as much are good winter cold fronts that come thru with heavy snow squalls. Maybe tomorrow will be an exception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intensewind002 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 1 hour ago, guinness77 said: I’ve mentioned it before…I had 6 trees when I bought my house in 2008, I’m down to 1. 4 were brought down by the wind. Off the top of my head, one came down and destroyed everything in my back yard (July of 2010) and another one hit my house, put a hole in my roof, bounced off and destroyed my porch and even smashed the windshield of my car. (August of 2019) I’m just so done with this shit. My grandmother lost two trees she’s had in the yard since before my grandparents adopted my mom, one in Sandy in the backyard and another in August 2019 in a severe tstorm. They were huge oak trees as well, miraculously both trees missed the house by inches (the second one took out the gutter though) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intensewind002 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 1 hour ago, bluewave said: Trees have really taken a beating since 2010. Probably the worst tree damage for our area over a 10-12 year period. So many weakened trees have already fallen. Plus many homeowners have done removals of trees that were to close to their house. The professional tree cutting business has been booming. My parents recently removed th3 elm tree in our yard last fall, kinda unfortunate since I liked that tree. It managed to survive Sandy and Isaias despite losing some large branches, but it was honestly getting way to big for the yard, the roots started burrowing into the foundation of the home, and with all the high wind events that we get now, it probably would have fallen at some point. Interestingly enough when I was visiting during winter break I noticed that a sapling sprouted from the stump so it’s not exactly dead surprisingly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intensewind002 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 12 minutes ago, lee59 said: With all the wind events we have had, Long Island has not had a direct hit from a hurricane in almost 40 years. Another thing that seems to not happen as much are good winter cold fronts that come thru with heavy snow squalls. Maybe tomorrow will be an exception. Do you remember that snow squall we had in February 2019 I think? Was a pure white out for maybe 15 minutes, probably the only true snow squall we’ve had in the past decade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthrmn654 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 68 mph 61, 66, 65 were some of the highest wins reports Throughout the okx area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guinness77 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 30 minutes ago, Intensewind002 said: My grandmother lost two trees she’s had in the yard since before my grandparents adopted my mom, one in Sandy in the backyard and another in August 2019 in a severe tstorm. They were huge oak trees as well, miraculously both trees missed the house by inches (the second one took out the gutter though) I bet the Aug ‘19 storm was the same that took out the tree that hit my house. Micro/down burst about 9 or 10pm right? I think we hit 92mph that night iirc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guinness77 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 46 minutes ago, Intensewind002 said: Oh that’s unfortunate, my parents house in Lindenhurst is all good from what I heard. I’m 15 years older than my sister and from I’ve heard she didnt any school delays due to any power issues in the neighborhood They ended up keeping them home the whole day. Couldn’t get the power going. Not the entire district, just their school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guinness77 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 System pulling away? I just got 2 monster gusts from the west. Both had to be more than 50mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinRP37 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 56 minutes ago, Volcanic Winter said: We’re doing a great job of that ourselves without the help of Mother Nature. We’ve really borked the carbon cycle. Teaching this stuff at the university level I really do not understand how people deny it. We all learn in physics that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction as well as energy can neither be created nor destroyed. However, a large subset of the population wants to believe that these basic laws of physics do not apply to fossil fuel combustions. That billions of internal combustion engines and furnaces have absolutely no effect on our climate or biosphere. It is truly mind-boggling and at times down right depressing. The earth is truly a magical planet and our weather is extremely interesting. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volcanic Winter Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 @JustinRP37 The physics of this are clear and undeniable, yet for some people science is an opinion and not the process of finding truth. More people should study paleo-geology and volcanology. It’s clear the impact CO2 has on the climate system as there have been massive flood basalt eruptions in ancient eras that have caused extreme temperature cascades from CO2 levels in excess of 2000PPM. The planet was nearly sterilized in the Permian Mass Extinction. Trying not to digress too far from the topic. Getting pretty hyped for March at this point. Trying to stay realistic but feeling that tingle of excitement that we may have some good chances left this winter along with more of my preferred colder conditions. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doorman Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 because we track...and take the smack the takeaway....look at how far south the snow line progresses! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volcanic Winter Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 I like the runs that show more snow in central / coastal NJ. Brb, placing my order with the GFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intensewind002 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 1 hour ago, guinness77 said: I bet the Aug ‘19 storm was the same that took out the tree that hit my house. Micro/down burst about 9 or 10pm right? I think we hit 92mph that night iirc. Yeah that’s the one, I wasn’t even paying attention that day since the severe threat was only marginal. I had my headphones on listening to music and suddenly the lights started flickering and the dog ran in my room freaking out. Then I look at side and rain is going sideways with hurricane force wind gusts 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HVSnowLover Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 18 minutes ago, Doorman said: because we track...and take the smack the takeaway....look at how far south the snow line progresses! The 12z runs delayed the storm by about 12 hours but are colder so far, strong CAD signature, Im guessing slower allows the cold to dig in more before the storm? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadInTheClouds Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Both GFS and CMC have a snow to wintry mix to possible rain along coast scenario for late next week. The further north you are the better you should do with this one the way it looks right now. Still a long way to go for any details. Lets see what 12z Euro shows. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HVSnowLover Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 17 minutes ago, Volcanic Winter said: I like the runs that show more snow in central / coastal NJ. Brb, placing my order with the GFS. Agree def more worried about this one being too warm then surpressed so I like seeing accumulating snow line go further south of the city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guinness77 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 27 minutes ago, Intensewind002 said: Yeah that’s the one, I wasn’t even paying attention that day since the severe threat was only marginal. I had my headphones on listening to music and suddenly the lights started flickering and the dog ran in my room freaking out. Then I look at side and rain is going sideways with hurricane force wind gusts It’s funny you say that. I don’t even think there was a severe warning even given out that night. I remember watching the Mets game and the storm blew through there and was probably moving west-to-east about 55-60mph. I saw the 2nd gust out my back door, before it started raining and saw, literally, everything in my backyard get picked up. 3rd gust, knocked the tree down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 30 minutes ago, HeadInTheClouds said: Both GFS and CMC have a snow to wintry mix to possible rain along coast scenario for late next week. The further north you are the better you should do with this one the way it looks right now. Still a long way to go for any details. Lets see what 12z Euro shows. This far out - 1 week - there are still a wide range of possibilities for next Fridays and beyond potential storm(s) - but there is a good chance of some frozen precip IMO... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatamy Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 3 hours ago, bluewave said: Trees have really taken a beating since 2010. Probably the worst tree damage for our area over a 10-12 year period. So many weakened trees have already fallen. Plus many homeowners have done removals of trees that were to close to their house. The professional tree cutting business has been booming. Not just on LI. There are many communities in northern NJ where between storms and other circumstances there has been a tremendous reduction in foliage trees. As a case in point I will note the community of Wood Ridge, NJ. This borough is situated right off of Route 17 south of I80. Before 2010 this was a heavily wooded community with many large old growth trees. I traveled there a year ago and was shocked by how it had changed. I would estimate that 90% of those old growth trees are gone. I was amazed. And this is just one community in that area. Even out by me there has been a large amount of old growth trees removed just in the past two years. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doorman Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 46 minutes ago, HVSnowLover said: The 12z runs delayed the storm by about 12 hours but are colder so far, strong CAD signature, Im guessing slower allows the cold to dig in more before the storm? Timing is everything as usual HV love these -battle zone - type systems always a big upside imho , within the small scale parameters 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikem81 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Can we start a thread for next Friday to bifurcate discussions of wind, march in general versus a potential winter storm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HVSnowLover Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 17 minutes ago, Doorman said: Timing is everything as usual HV love these -battle zone - type systems always a big upside imho , within the small scale parameters Agree love these airmass clash storms although love them most when on the right side of the gradient. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HVSnowLover Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, mikem81 said: Can we start a thread for next Friday to bifurcate discussions of wind, march in general versus a potential winter storm? Might be early to open a storm thread although agree it would separate topics more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Gorilla Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, HVSnowLover said: Agree love these airmass clash storms although love them most when on the right side of the gradient. This. The worst is just barely on the wrong side of the gradient. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Gorilla Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 38 minutes ago, NEG NAO said: This far out - 1 week - there are still a wide range of possibilities for next Fridays and beyond potential storm(s) - but there is a good chance of some frozen precip IMO... Signal is there. Details await. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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