LibertyBell Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 3 hours ago, uncle W said: two years in a row NYC set a standard record low in May...last year was the latest 34 degree temp on record...this year is lowest max of 51 for so late in the season... What was the high today? The same as yesterday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 8 hours ago, uncle W said: as 1945 showed a very cool end of May/beginning of June period can turn around in a hurry...Newark NJ has a max temp range of 96/52...a 44 degree difference...1962 had a 98/48 range for a 50 degree difference... Got one for 1944, Uncle? That was part of the 11 yr cycle and was a stand out summer for that decade. Got a historic hurricane that year too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hudsonvalley21 Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 1.28 in the bucket so far today. Storm total as of 7pm is 3.22. In addition, for the last consecutive 48 hours, the temp has been recorded between 45 and 48 degrees at KSWF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 7 hours ago, nycwinter said: another beauty of a day temps in the 40;s raw wind . i did another 2 mile walk today. and when i went out it was not raining for the first mile. then it started pouring rain... as the rain kept pouring down.. i was reminded of the late great bj thomas famous song.. Raindrops keep falling on my head But that doesn't mean my eyes will soon be turning red Crying's not for me 'Cause I'm never gonna stop the rain by complaining Because I'm free Nothing's worrying me Were you singing while you were running? No wonder the Yankees got swept in Detroit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 8 hours ago, wdrag said: Some numbers: the top 2 are the current ongoing event (coCoRaHs) that began late Friday May 28, and the bottom are the CoCoRahs totals since late Wednesday the 26th. Seems like spotty 6-7" totals likely coastal NJ by Noon Monday, and I think still a chance of spotty 6" LI. This part of Wantage only 2.10 this two day event and and 2.24 since late Wed, small by comparison elsewhere. It's still raining in NEPA so no surprise they made it over 3"! Over 3" here too. Walt, where is that report of 3.17" in PA from is that near MPO? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIK62 Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 OK here is the GFS ENS instead of the GFS OP. This would still seem to indicate a potential 10-day HW, but with the peaks mellowed out. RAIN should end by 11pm and tomorrow could feature improved skies by the afternoon-----but still under 70 for a high. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xram Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 1.34 for the day and total of 3.64 so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 11 hours ago, bluewave said: Long Island is climbing up the list of the heaviest May rainstorms. This was updated through midnight. More heavy rain moving in off the Atlantic now. Maximum 4-Day Total Precipitation for ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP, NY Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Value Ending Date Missing Days 1 5.27 1984-05-31 0 2 5.04 1989-05-19 0 - 0 - 0 3 4.29 1990-05-19 0 - 0 - 0 4 4.18 1998-05-11 0 0 0 0 0 5 3.17 1966-05-22 0 6 3.13 2003-05-26 0 0 0 - 0 0 7 2.85 2011-05-19 0 8 2.84 2021-05-29 0 Chris, do you happen to have the hi/lo temps for those top Mays? I dont remember any of those storms lol. 1984, 1989, 1990 and 1998 So weird that 1989 and 1990 had them on the same date, back to back years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 12 hours ago, jfklganyc said: Dont justify that with an answer. A lot of us in this forum have two multiple houses. 45° F, pouring. Heat has been on for two days. Even the secondary heat in the basement has kicked on. I’m having a barbecue later and I’m going to light the fireplace and the drink du jour will be hot toddies I'm just heating my bedroom lol. Whenever I go to another part of the house it feels like winter! This really is March like weather. I heard tomorrow the sun is going to come out I'm going to do my BBQ then! I hope we all get to enjoy some sun tomorrow so we can at least say we had a good Memorial Day! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 5 hours ago, donsutherland1 said: Record Low Maximum Temperatures: May 29, 2021 Atlantic City: 54°(old record: 56°, 1946) Binghamton: 45° (old record: 50°, 1964) Bridgeport: 52° (old record: 58°, 1950) Farmingdale: 52° (old record: 59°, 2017) Harrisburg: 52° (old record: 57°, 1990) Hartford: 49° (old record: 51°, 1917) ***Latest-season high in the 40s*** Islip: 51° (old record: 58°, 2017) Mount Pocono: 43° (old record: 53°, 1990) ***Coldest high so late in the season*** New Haven: 53° (old record: 58°, 2017) New York City-JFK: 52° (old record: 57°, 1967) New York City-LGA: 52° (old record: 58°, 1950) New York City-NYC: 51° (tied record set in 1884) ***Coldest high so late in the season*** Newark: 52°(old record: 60°, 1940 and 1950) Philadelphia: 54° (old record: 56°, 1884) Poughkeepsie: 50° (old record: 58°, 1990 and 2017) Scranton: 50°(old record: 56°, 1967) Trenton: 50° (old record: 57°, 1901) Westhampton: 51° (old record: 58°, 2017) White Plains: 49° (old record: 58°, 2017) ***Latest-season high in the 40s*** Don, were the highs similar today? And did we have any record lows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 38 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: It seems to happen every May now, Don, why didn't we get these kind of aberrant arctic shots in May back when I was growing up in the 80s? There are resonance events in climate change where the flow is distorted. It’s too soon to know whether that was the case this time around. One would need an attribution study to be sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 28 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: Don, were the highs similar today? And did we have any record lows? I will soon be posting where things stand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 1 minute ago, donsutherland1 said: There are resonance events in climate change where the flow is distorted. It’s too soon to know whether that was the case this time around. One would need an attribution study to be sure. I would also like to know if the volcanic eruption in the Caribbean had any influence in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycwinter Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 53 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: It doesn't take all that long to dry out the ground anyway. I dont think 100 is possible here in June anyway because it hasn't happened in my lifetime, however the heat of next week should dry out the ground nicely, thereby setting the stage for 100 degrees in July. It's like a cold airmass that comes in before a snowstorm, dropping the temperature of the ground and priming it for a big snowstorm that will start to stick right away. last time it hit 100 in june in nyc was in 1966 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, nycwinter said: last time it hit 100 in june in nyc was in 1966 That’s the last time it may have been recorded in the park...doesn’t mean the last time it was 100 in nyc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 Through 8 pm, many locations in the region remained on track to set new daily record low maximum temperatures or tie existing records. High temperatures and daily record low maximum temperatures included: Albany: 48° (51°, 1953) Allentown: 51° (52°, 1953) Atlantic City: 54°(58°, 1953 and 1971) Baltimore: 57° (58°, 1915) Boston: 51° (51°, 1901) Bridgeport: 52° (58°, 1953) Farmingdale: 52° (59°, 2017) Harrisburg: 56 (58°, 1915 and 1953) Hartford: 50° (55°, 1953) Islip: 52° (60°, 2017) Mount Pocono: 47 (53°, 1924) New Haven: 53° (57°, 1953) New York City-JFK: 52° (57°, 1953) New York City-LGA: 52° (57°, 1953) New York City-NYC: 51° (55°, 1884) Newark: 53(53°, 1953) Philadelphia: 53° (59°, 1918) Poughkeepsie: 50° (52°, 1953) Providence: 50° (53°, 1996) Scranton: 52°(52°, 1953) Trenton: 51 (54°, 1915) Westhampton: 51° (58°, 2017) White Plains: 50° (56°, 1953) Wilmington, DE: 53° (62°, 1953 and 1971) Worcester: 47° (51°, 1996) If Central Park records a high temperature of 51°, that would be the coldest high temperature so late in the season. In addition, New York City's LaGuardia Airport recorded a low temperature of 48°. That tied the daily minimum temperature record set in 1940 and tied in 1949. Any rain and showers will end tomorrow morning. Afterward, it will remain mainly mostly cloudy. It will also become milder. It will likely become much warmer late in the week. The first 7-10 days of June could start off warmer than normal. The MJO's passage through Phase 4 at an amplitude of 1.500 or above during the May 15-25 period coupled with ENSO Region 1+2 temperature anomalies above -1.0°C and below +1.0°C, as has been the case this year, has typically seen warmth in the East during the first 10 days of June. Cooler conditions typically prevailed when the ENSO Region 1+2 anomalies were outside that range. The latest EPS guidance favors warmer than normal conditions in the Northeast through at least the first 10 days of June. Neutral ENSO conditions have now developed. The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was -0.7°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was -0.2°C for the week centered around May 19. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged -0.78°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged -0.33°C. Neutral ENSO conditions will likely prevail into at least mid-summer. The SOI was -10.78 today. The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) figure was +0.194 today. On May 28 the MJO was in Phase 8 at an amplitude of 0.369 (RMM). The May 27-adjusted amplitude was 0.175 (RMM). In late April, the MJO moved through Phase 8 at an extreme amplitude (+3.000 or above). Only February 25, 1988 and March 18-19, 2015 had a higher amplitude at Phase 8. Both 1988 and 2015 went on to have an exceptionally warm July-August period. July-August 1988 had a mean temperature of 79.1°, which ranked 4th highest for that two-month period. July-August 2015 had a mean temperature of 78.9°, which ranked 5th highest for that two-month period. September 2015 was also the warmest September on record. The MJO's extreme passage through Phase 8 could provide the first hint of a hot summer. Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied 98% probability that New York City will have a cooler than normal May (1991-2020 normal). May will likely finish with a mean temperature near 62.9° (0.3° below normal). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 5 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said: Through 8 pm, many locations in the region remained on track to set new daily record low maximum temperatures or tie existing records. High temperatures and daily record low maximum temperatures included: Albany: 48° (51°, 1953) Allentown: 51° (52°, 1953) Atlantic City: 54°(58°, 1953 and 1971) Baltimore: 57° (58°, 1915) Boston: 51° (51°, 1901) Bridgeport: 52° (58°, 1953) Farmingdale: 52° (59°, 2017) Harrisburg: 56 (58°, 1915 and 1953) Hartford: 50° (55°, 1953) Islip: 52° (60°, 2017) Mount Pocono: 47 (53°, 1924) New Haven: 53° (57°, 1953) New York City-JFK: 52° (57°, 1953) New York City-LGA: 52° (57°, 1953) New York City-NYC: 51° (55°, 1884) Newark: 53(53°, 1953) Philadelphia: 53° (59°, 1918) Poughkeepsie: 50° (52°, 1953) Providence: 50° (53°, 1996) Scranton: 52°(52°, 1953) Trenton: 51 (54°, 1915) Westhampton: 51° (58°, 2017) White Plains: 50° (56°, 1953) Wilmington, DE: 53° (62°, 1953 and 1971) Worcester: 47° (51°, 1996) If Central Park records a high temperature of 51°, that would be the coldest high temperature so late in the season. In addition, New York City's LaGuardia Airport recorded a low temperature of 48°. That tied the daily minimum temperature record set in 1940 and tied in 1949. Any rain and showers will end tomorrow morning. Afterward, it will remain mainly mostly cloudy. It will also become milder. It will likely become much warmer late in the week. The first 7-10 days of June could start off warmer than normal. The MJO's passage through Phase 4 at an amplitude of 1.500 or above during the May 15-25 period coupled with ENSO Region 1+2 temperature anomalies above -1.0°C and below +1.0°C, as has been the case this year, has typically seen warmth in the East during the first 10 days of June. Cooler conditions typically prevailed when the ENSO Region 1+2 anomalies were outside that range. The latest EPS guidance favors warmer than normal conditions in the Northeast through at least the first 10 days of June. Neutral ENSO conditions have now developed. The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was -0.7°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was -0.2°C for the week centered around May 19. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged -0.78°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged -0.33°C. Neutral ENSO conditions will likely prevail into at least mid-summer. The SOI was -10.78 today. The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) figure was +0.194 today. On May 28 the MJO was in Phase 8 at an amplitude of 0.369 (RMM). The May 27-adjusted amplitude was 0.175 (RMM). In late April, the MJO moved through Phase 8 at an extreme amplitude (+3.000 or above). Only February 25, 1988 and March 18-19, 2015 had a higher amplitude at Phase 8. Both 1988 and 2015 went on to have an exceptionally warm July-August period. July-August 1988 had a mean temperature of 79.1°, which ranked 4th highest for that two-month period. July-August 2015 had a mean temperature of 78.9°, which ranked 5th highest for that two-month period. September 2015 was also the warmest September on record. The MJO's extreme passage through Phase 8 could provide the first hint of a hot summer. Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied 98% probability that New York City will have a cooler than normal May (1991-2020 normal). May will likely finish with a mean temperature near 62.9° (0.3° below normal). Wow the late season cold really did a number on the May avg temp. Will this May end up cooler than last May, Don? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: Wow the late season cold really did a number on the May avg temp. Will this May end up cooler than last May, Don? Last May was much cooler. This May would be warmer than normal against the 1981-2010 normals. My figure uses the updated 1991-2020 normals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 25 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: I would also like to know if the volcanic eruption in the Caribbean had any influence in this. It’s doubtful. It had no impact on the stratosphere. There would also be a lab between the volcanic eruption and the spread of gases and ash in the atmosphere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdrag Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 1 hour ago, LibertyBell said: It's still raining in NEPA so no surprise they made it over 3"! Over 3" here too. Walt, where is that report of 3.17" in PA from is that near MPO? 6.6nw Chapman PA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycwinter Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 41 minutes ago, psv88 said: That’s the last time it may have been recorded in the park...doesn’t mean the last time it was 100 in nyc well the park is all that matters in nyc.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover11 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 looks like we are done with the rain finally, time to rebound from a horrible mdw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathermedic Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 Finished up with 2.71 inches total rainfall at my station in Sheepshead Bay for the weekend event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 Picked up 1.12" of rain for the day yesterday. Final storm total 3.38" Current temp 50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 Closing in on 3.75" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravitylover Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 2.7 total since Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdrag Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 2.55 Wantage NJ. Will post CoCo RAHS event totals and totals since late Wed, sometime between 10A-3P. Max event so far 4.41 Ocean County and max since late Wed 5.96 Ocean County. Early in the Monday morning reporting cycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted May 31, 2021 Author Share Posted May 31, 2021 9th wettest May for parts of Long Island Time Series Summary for ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP, NY - Month of May Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Year Total Precipitation Missing Count 1 1989 10.14 0 2 1984 9.43 0 3 1990 8.94 0 4 1998 7.87 0 5 1978 6.87 0 6 1966 6.09 0 7 2009 5.88 0 8 1972 5.82 0 9 2021 5.12 1 10 2019 5.05 0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboLeader1 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 2.15" in rain bucket total since Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 Morning thoughts... Today will become partly sunny and warmer. Temperatures will likely top out in the upper 60s and lower 70s in much of the region. Likely high temperatures around the region include: New York City (Central Park): 69° Newark: 74° Philadelphia: 73° Tomorrow will be variably cloudy and still milder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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