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Spring/Summer 2021 Banter/Complaint Thread


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9 hours ago, Hoosier said:

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This was the first tornado (well, funnel at that point) I ever witnessed when I was 8 years old. Was in Decatur and told my mom that a cloud behind our car was “pointy and spinning” we ducked into a gas station to hide in the bathroom and I watched a large concrete ashtray/garbage can spin end over end down the middle of the street as some trees and power poles broke off. We were on the NE side of Decatur, just in the area where the tornado lifted.
 

Sparked quite the enduring weather fascination. 

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7 minutes ago, madwx said:

people act like it doesn't snow in April, even though it snows in April every year

maybe for your area, but not for the southern midwest. This is truly an historic event. Unbelievable.

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27 minutes ago, Snownado said:

maybe for your area, but not for the southern midwest. This is truly an historic event. Unbelievable.

thats fair.  Wasn't really thinking about south of I80

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Also, as has been pointed out, there is a massive difference between getting snow in the first week of April vs after the midpoint of the month, especially with southward extent.  It is not like the difference between February 5 and February 20.

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As an example, here are the daily snowfall records for Indianapolis.  Once you get around/after April 20, there is a noticeable dropoff and it becomes much more unusual to see measurable snow, let alone an inch or more.

 

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23 minutes ago, Hoosier said:

As an example, here are the daily snowfall records for Indianapolis.  Once you get around/after April 20, there is a noticeable dropoff and it becomes much more unusual to see measurable snow, let alone an inch or more.

 

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If I saw snow in June, July, or August. There would be a for sale sign in front of my house that day and head south.  Unless that is hail being recorded?

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24 minutes ago, NTXYankee said:

If I saw snow in June, July, or August. There would be a for sale sign in front of my house that day and head south.  Unless that is hail being recorded?

Yes, that’s hail. For example, on August 11, 1989 and August 12, 1989, a trace was recorded. Temperature ranges on those days were 79-58 and 83-58 respectively. Both days had some thunderstorms. A temperature-based rule would flag those items for quality control. Unfortunately, the quality control algorithms don’t take into consideration such events. One can find them listed for numerous locations. 

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Here's something remarkable.  Illinois hasn't had an EF2 or greater tornado since 12/1/2018.  On average, Illinois gets maybe 7 or 8 tornadoes of such strength per year.    

I have a feeling that streak is going to end this year.

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18 hours ago, Hoosier said:

Here's something remarkable.  Illinois hasn't had an EF2 or greater tornado since 12/1/2018.  On average, Illinois gets maybe 7 or 8 tornadoes of such strength per year.    

I have a feeling that streak is going to end this year.

Shocker, Michigan has had one more recently, in Mar 2019.

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Now for something a little different.

We are slightly over 6 weeks out from the June 10 solar eclipse.  This is a partial eclipse in the United States, so not nearly as spectacular as the 8/21/2017 eclipse.  It will be happening around sunrise and will be the first sunrise eclipse that is visible in the subforum since 11/3/2013 (which was only in the eastern part of the sub).  

For the Chicago area, it will be the first eclipse at sunrise since 12/24/1973, which is an unusually long period of time between eclipses at sunrise.  Hopefully the weather cooperates.  Will have more details as it gets closer of course.  

If you are located in the gray area on this map, the eclipse will not be visible since it's occurring entirely before sunrise.  So as you can see, there will be an opportunity for just about the entire subforum region as long as weather permits.  However, the closer you are to the gray area, the less time that you will have to view it.  The farther east you are, the better.

 

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so there's been talk of lack of severe weather in the spring in the Midwest so I decided to look at number of Severe Thunderstorm Warnings issued by Milwaukee by April 30 each year:

2021: 0

2020: 8

2019: 3

2018: 3

2017: 26

2016: 2

2015: 12

2014: 14

2013: 3

2012: 4

2011: 24

2010: 10

2009: 3

2008: 14

2007: 11

2006: 21

2005: 29

2004: 10

2003: 0

2002: 29

2001: 6

2000: 19

 

So no huge trends but we've definitely been in a drought recently for severe weather in the spring.   2002-2011 was really a boom time for early spring severe

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51 minutes ago, Chicago Storm said:


The pattern has already changed.


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LOL. I guess if you blinked you missed it.  50’s is far from a normal high in May for this area which is what shows up after Wednesday and the same pattern we can’t get out of.

I heard 3 rumbles of thunder yesterday so going by 2021 standards I’m above average for the year.

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LOL. I guess if you blinked you missed it.  50’s is far from a normal high in May for this area which is what shows up after Wednesday and the same pattern we can’t get out of.
I heard 3 rumbles of thunder yesterday so going by 2021 standards I’m above average for the year.

Again, the pattern has changed.


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