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5 minutes ago, chances14 said:

climate has some factor in it. Midwest typically experiences worse flu seasons than other warmer places. At least here in michigan the % of active covid cases in hospitals compared to total hospitalizations has continued to decline even though the total number of current covid hospitalizations has increased

I also agree that most of the spread has been from work and private gatherings. would also add schools into that as well. shutting down restaurants, gyms, salons, etc isn't going to make much of a difference imo.

then why did it work in France?

 

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8 minutes ago, wxtrix said:

then why did it work in France?

 

not sure. I'm just speaking about the data specifically to michigan. A large portion of the outbreaks have been tied back to schools

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4 minutes ago, chances14 said:

not sure. I'm just speaking about the data specifically to michigan. A large portion of the outbreaks have been tied back to schools

And bars/restaurants.

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13 minutes ago, chances14 said:

not sure. I'm just speaking about the data specifically to michigan. A large portion of the outbreaks have been tied back to schools

Do you mean universities or K-12? 

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34 minutes ago, Stebo said:

Yeah universities are definitely big spreaders.

Indeed.  Some have done pretty well, but others not so much.  I have posted about Notre Dame a few times.  They are now at 12% of the university (staff + students) infected in the past 3 months.  That is a pretty bad percentage in that amount of time, especially because everybody should know by now what helps to slow the spread.  It is a little tough to make it stick in people that age though.  People may think so what, it's college kids and they're not as vulnerable, but the problem is it spreads out into the community.

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50 minutes ago, Hoosier said:

Indeed.  Some have done pretty well, but others not so much.  I have posted about Notre Dame a few times.  They are now at 12% of the university (staff + students) infected in the past 3 months.  That is a pretty bad percentage in that amount of time, especially because everybody should know by now what helps to slow the spread.  It is a little tough to make it stick in people that age though.  People may think so what, it's college kids and they're not as vulnerable, but the problem is it spreads out into the community.

Yep and colleges are filled with people who spread all over the country. Hell look at some of the biggest initial spreaders, spring breakers coming back from Florida to places like NYC Chicago Detroit.

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4 hours ago, Stebo said:

Yep and colleges are filled with people who spread all over the country. Hell look at some of the biggest initial spreaders, spring breakers coming back from Florida to places like NYC Chicago Detroit.

And I have a feeling that will continue this cycle through thanksgiving with students coming home 

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Testing is overloaded.  We have a couple people who have went for tests from my work and one waited for 8 days for results and the second one is now on day 5 and no results.  This is a county health department site in conjunction with the state health department.  Completely useless.  

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When did it become so taboo to suggest anything that requires a little personal accountability? Encouraging people to take of themselves shouldn't be so controversial.

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Just so much going on with Thanksgiving this week that has potential to aggravate the situation:

 College kids coming home. Lots of travel. Significant among of large multi-family gatherings are still going to occur, which will often include older relatives. Also don't know how well stores will enforce capacity limits etc. for holiday shopping. 

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9 hours ago, chances14 said:

climate has some factor in it. Midwest typically experiences worse flu seasons than other warmer places. At least here in michigan the % of active covid cases in hospitals compared to total hospitalizations has continued to decline even though the total number of current covid hospitalizations has increased

I also agree that most of the spread has been from work and private gatherings. would also add schools into that as well. shutting down restaurants, gyms, salons, etc isn't going to make much of a difference imo.

For sure. Two things that have been very interesting to me this Fall, no athlete has caught Covid from a game in the NFL or College which is interesting considering they're playing a contact sport. Secondly no one caught Covid from that field storming at Notre Dame. I'm shocked at both things

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17 minutes ago, nwohweather said:

For sure. Two things that have been very interesting to me this Fall, no athlete has caught Covid from a game in the NFL or College which is interesting considering they're playing a contact sport. Secondly no one caught Covid from that field storming at Notre Dame. I'm shocked at both things

Both events are/were outdoors and generally involve brief periods of contact. A little bit different then sitting down for 45 minutes at a restaurant or a 3-4 hour indoor social gathering. Getting exposed to very small number of viral particles is not generally believed to cause an infection. Outdoor ventilation is generally very effective at diluting viral concentrations.

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1 minute ago, dan11295 said:

Both events are/were outdoors and generally involve brief periods of contact. A little bit different then sitting down for 45 minutes at a restaurant or a 3-4 hour indoor social gathering.

I wouldn't say a field storming is brief. But I agree, it's private gatherings that are mostly driving this. 

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Tuesdays often suck for deaths with the weekend lag in reporting, and today is no different.  Over 100 in IN.  I think that is only the 2nd time that has happened in the state during the entire pandemic.

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14 minutes ago, StormfanaticInd said:

Today is looking like another bad day. We could easily see 2k+ deaths today

Unfortunately I think weekday deaths will be 2000+ for the next few weeks going forward.

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16 hours ago, winterwx21 said:

And the studies show that risk of severe covid increases with each level of overweight and obesity, so even just losing a little weight can help. Too bad some people take offense so easily. This is not about fat shaming at all. It's about trying to save lives, because there are plenty of people that don't know about the weight issue with Covid.

not taking your advice until you tell me what your resting heart rate is...and, is it elite athlete level?

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34 minutes ago, MacChump said:

not taking your advice until you tell me what your resting heart rate is...and, is it elite athlete level?

Obviously heart/lung health is especially critical during this pandemic, because we know that this virus attacks the heart and lungs of many people. Most people that die from this virus die because the lungs or heart give out. So this isn't just about the weight issue ... exercise strengthens the heart and lungs which reduces the chance of dying from Covid. So it's just another reason why exercise can help during the pandemic. There's no question there would be much less deaths if more people exercised. And again I just do not understand why anyone would take offense over medical advice that can help reduce hospitalizations and deaths during a pandemic. Most people don't take offense, but a small percentage of people do. They misunderstand it for fat shaming or trolling, but it isn't those things at all. Talk to any doctor and they will tell you that exercise reduces risk of having severe problems with Covid. Obviously it doesn't eliminate it, but it reduces it which is a good thing.

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15 hours ago, BuffaloWeather said:

I've been into bodybuilding and fitness for 6 years. Let myself go after getting married for a few years and decided to change that.

You actually don't need to work out at all to lose weight. Its a very simple equation. Calculate your maintenance calories to maintain your current weight and subtract however amount of calories you need to from that to start losing weight. It's calories in vs calories out.

This calculator will tell you how many calories you need to eat to maintain your current weight, lose weight, or gain weight.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/weight-loss/in-depth/calorie-calculator/itt-20402304

Obviously exercise helps, but you honestly don't need it. Diet is by far the most important aspect of losing weight.

Everyone is different. I lost 30 pounds through exercise alone. My diet was pretty good, but I was gaining weight as the years went by as my metabolism slowed down. Then I started running, and after 4 or 5 months the 30 pounds was gone. If I go out for a 7 mile run, that burns about 800 calories. If I do it 5 days a week, that's about 4000 calories burned in a week. That explains how you can lose 30 pounds in several months with exercise and not changing the diet. Of course you can do it with mainly diet and no exercise too, as you said. But some people don't like the idea of eating much less and being hungry all the time. I'd rather eat a little more and go out there and burn 800 calories with a run. Also, studies show that most people don't keep lost weight off if they did it through diet alone, but they do keep it off if they do it through a combo of diet and exercise. Obviously because you can burn off extra calories with extra exercise if you slip up and eat a little more than you're supposed to. So I'd say diet and exercise are equally important.

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56 minutes ago, MacChump said:

not taking your advice until you tell me what your resting heart rate is...and, is it elite athlete level?

 

14 minutes ago, winterwx21 said:

Obviously heart/lung health is especially critical during this pandemic, because we know that this virus attacks the heart and lungs of many people. Most people that die from this virus die because the lungs or heart give out. So this isn't just about the weight issue ... exercise strengthens the heart and lungs which reduces the chance of dying from Covid. So it's just another reason why exercise can help during the pandemic. There's no question there would be much less deaths if more people exercised. And again I just do not understand why anyone would take offense over medical advice that can help reduce hospitalizations and deaths during a pandemic. Most people don't take offense, but a small percentage of people do. They misunderstand it for fat shaming or trolling, but it isn't those things at all. Talk to any doctor and they will tell you that exercise reduces risk of having severe problems with Covid. Obviously it doesn't eliminate it, but it reduces it which is a good thing.

just write a number...any number...i'll accept any number at all, it could be a 1, or a 2, or a 3, or how about a 4?  It's that simple...

then we can move on to the elite athlete question

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1 hour ago, MacChump said:

 

just write a number...any number...i'll accept any number at all, it could be a 1, or a 2, or a 3, or how about a 4?  It's that simple...

then we can move on to the elite athlete question

A number for what?? And yeah, I'm very fortunate to have an elite athlete heart. You're acting very strangely. I see someone reacted to your post with a confused emoji, and I am confused too. Don't know what you're trying to get at here.

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Running is awful on your joints in the long run. Walking a few miles per day is the best, if you're privileged enough to squeeze that into your day. :)

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26 minutes ago, WaryWarren said:

Running is awful on your joints in the long run. Walking a few miles per day is the best, if you're privileged enough to squeeze that into your day. :)

Running actually cured my knee pain. I used to have a lot of pain, but it stopped after I started running. Probably because exercise is a strong anti inflammatory. Walking is great for many people, but it doesn't do a lot (as far as cardio workout) for people that have very strong hearts. I have to run to get my heart rate up.

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